PSNI Recruitment - Stage 4 - The Medical

Chance?

Louisiana 1927 wrote: »

That's wierd & worrying chance. You did your ac same day as me, 9th June, i was hoping i wouldnt hear anything coz of c14.

You should phone ext appointments & see what the craic is.

very strange aint it!

will give them a call later today and see what the deal is......IF they tell me that is!

anyone know what number i should call and who to ask for about this??

Chance?

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Chance- I think you should give them a wee call and tell them you just had your medical 2 months ago for C14, they will probably say you will have to do it again. Ringing could shed some light on a possible intake for you (and me and lou and bc and PSM etc etc etc).

will do pyg.

will try and get some kind of insight into our chances for c14 too, but you know what they're like, will probably be giving nothing away!

Bubba1981

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

It all depends if you and the doctor declare it on you medical form. If he/she has it on your medical records then it will have to be declared. If not then no one need know.

Thanks PYG and Louisiana - feel much better now that's off my chest - Ill just go to the docs on Thursday and tell him the truth and take whatever comes to me. I was posting from my mobile this morning hence the double post, god knows why my phone does that.

The medical's not far away now - in fact its like 3 days before my wedding so the blood pressure will be up anyway!! - if the results take only 2 weeks or thereabouts then I'll be on honeymoon when they arrive! I might get a mate to periodically check the post while I'm away and open any letters...

PapaYankeeGirl

Any May medical-ers fancy ringing and seeing why no SMT results yet? What if thats why we werent called? I nominate PSM!!! She put the notion in my head!

bc84

did i see someone saying theres another smt once you get in?

That might've been me, I read it, although I'm thinking that it may just be the old 'pee in a cup' test rather than a hair sample, as no one has mentioned having to keep your hair a certain length. Here's the info I found, taken from
http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_1108_substance_misuse.pdf

Drug testing will be undertaken on the following groups:
(i) All new appointments to the PSNI of both police officers and police staff on or after 1 September 2008 will be subject to drugs testing. Refusal to undergo a drug test will negate any offer of employment;
(ii) Internal appointments to some specialist roles on or after 1 September 2008 will be subject to drugs testing;
(iii) Student officers will be subject to testing during their initial training period;
(iv) Probationer Constables will be tested at least once during probation;
(v) All police officers will be subject to random testing. A maximum of 20% of police officers will be randomly tested on an annual basis. This may result in some individuals being tested more than once in a 12- month period;
(vi) Police staff in roles that are designated as safety and/or security critical (Appendix ‘A’) will also be subject to random testing;
(vii) ‘With Cause’ drug testing will be introduced. There are two categories of ‘with cause’. These are ‘with cause’ intelligence led and ‘with cause’ observed impairment. In either instance for ‘cause’ to be established, the test of ‘reasonable suspicion’ must be satisfied. Appendix ‘A’ details those who will be subject to ‘with cause’ testing;
(viii) Drug testing may be introduced as part of investigative protocols for incidents involving police officers and police staff that would be subject to investigation by the PONI;
(ix) Those who have entered into a rehabilitation contract will be subject to regular drug testing.

I hope it isn't a hair test, I'm fairly certain I don't have any hair on my body that's more than 3 cm long! :eek:

MrsGeneHunt

Deleted User wrote: »

That might've been me, I read it, although I'm thinking that it may just be the old 'pee in a cup' test rather than a hair sample, as no one has mentioned having to keep your hair a certain length. Here's the info I found, taken from
http://www.psni.police.uk/policy_directive_1108_substance_misuse.pdf


I hope it isn't a hair test, I'm fairly certain I don't have any hair on my body that's more than 3 cm long! :eek:

AFAIK it is a hair test. I know someone who has been randomly tested. And trust me it is random. Any hour, day or night.... Sorry!:eek:

Aw crapola, looks like my hair is gonna have to grow then, my body hair seems to get tired and give up at about 1cm long. It's lacking stamina. My hair sucks when it gets long, if I suffer emotional trauma from post-shower fluffy head I'm suing! :mad:

bc84

do they not prefer you to have shorter hair? i know the second i get in mines is getting shaved for handiness

Louisiana 1927

bc84 wrote: »

do they not prefer you to have shorter hair? i know the second i get in mines is getting shaved for handiness

I was so gonna do that too:D. Espec if you be wearin a hat & all that caper, you don't wanna be fannying about with gel & other hair styling/care products.

bc84

thing is, i dont do anything but number ones all over, i reckon tht might be a snip too far lol

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

Any May medical-ers fancy ringing and seeing why no SMT results yet? What if thats why we werent called? I nominate PSM!!! She put the notion in my head!

well my fellow medicalled ones, i tried about 4 or 5 times this afternoon to get through to OHW, line just rang out everytime. I shall try again, as I am getting thoroughly ticked off waiting for results from my hair butchering..... hope to f*** they ain't lost!:mad:

will keep you all posted, okey dokey folks?

MrsGeneHunt

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA wrote: »

well my fellow medicalled ones, i tried about 4 or 5 times this afternoon to get through to OHW, line just rang out everytime. I shall try again, as I am getting thoroughly ticked off waiting for results from my hair butchering..... hope to f*** they ain't lost!:mad:

will keep you all posted, okey dokey folks?

You dont need to ring OHW, just ring the Substance Misuse Officer in Criminal Justice HQ.:)

Louisiana 1927

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA wrote: »

well my fellow medicalled ones, i tried about 4 or 5 times this afternoon to get through to OHW, line just rang out everytime. I shall try again, as I am getting thoroughly ticked off waiting for results from my hair butchering..... hope to f*** they ain't lost!:mad:

will keep you all posted, okey dokey folks?

Nice one PSM;)

I'm figuring no news is good news, though as each day passes that motto grows weaker & weaker!!!

The wee man said within two weeks the day of the med. I phoned the number for the substance misuse dept in the med pack & the guy i spoke to said that if everything is ok we don't hearanything but i know that'snot the case, what is going on.

Guess it'snot sobad asnoneof us have heard owt right???

Louisiana 1927

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

You dont need to ring OHW, just ring the Substance Misuse Officer in Criminal Justice HQ.:)

That's the no i rang.

PapaYankeeGirl

Louisiana 1927 wrote: »

That's the no i rang.

All I have is an address. No number. No need to worry PSM is on it!

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA

yep indeedly, i am on it. will just ring exchange and play duh-umb. it's over 9 weeks now for fecksake.... anyways am off to watch chris moyles on who do you think you are? gotta be better than sitting wondering when will i get that blimmin call! lol:D

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA

UPDATE FOR SMT RESULTS

still cannot get anyone to answer their bloody phone... tried several times this morning.... must still be on their holidays:(

i shall try again this afternoon, tel exchange lady will be building up a personal relationship with me!!!

PapaYankeeGirl

PEGGYSUE'S MAMA wrote: »

UPDATE FOR SMT RESULTS

still cannot get anyone to answer their bloody phone... tried several times this morning.... must still be on their holidays:(

i shall try again this afternoon, tel exchange lady will be building up a personal relationship with me!!!

Thanks! If I were you id ring froma different phone each time and put on an accent!

Lynx655

OK Ive passed the IST and the AC now the next 2 stages, my first question is this what does the flexibility part entail on the medical? I'm as stiff as a board and had better get stretching but need to know what is going to be asked of me. Any info would be greatly appreciated

MustBeCrazy

Lynx655 wrote: »

OK Ive passed the IST and the AC now the next 2 stages, my first question is this what does the flexibility part entail on the medical? I'm as stiff as a board and had better get stretching but need to know what is going to be asked of me. Any info would be greatly appreciated

Hi there

Congrats on passing the a/c and good luck with the not too distant arrival

As for the medical, the flexibility part is not too strenuous - just really showing you can bend to touch your toes without any pain etc and some bending of the knees and a little stretching. Unless you've had any specific injuries or illnesses affecting your joints you should be fine with that part of the medical.
HTH

MBC x

Lynx655

Thanks MBC I have had problems in the past, I had a prolapsed disc a couple of years ago and needed an epidural to sort it out, its been fine since not giving me any probs, but am very worried I will be knocked back for this as they can afford to be very selective as there are obviously so many quality candidates !
And regarding the not too distant arrival, Thanks !

Jill77

Lynx655 wrote: »

Thanks MBC I have had problems in the past, I had a prolapsed disc a couple of years ago and needed an epidural to sort it out, its been fine since not giving me any probs, but am very worried I will be knocked back for this as they can afford to be very selective as there are obviously so many quality candidates !
And regarding the not too distant arrival, Thanks !

Lynx, if thats gonna be a problem for you, then my surgery last September to remove 2 discs from my spine will definitely be a problem lol! :eek:


If/when I get my medical date, I already have a letter from my surgeon saying that I am fit and strong enough to endure police training and duties - might be worth doing the same yourself, getting some sort of specialist letter. Nothing to lose.

Lynx655

That is a good idea I think I'll do that !
Cheers Jill

MustBeCrazy

From what I've heard they can be quite strict with back injuries of any sort so I think it would be a good idea to get a letter from your Specialist as if you do fail for this reason and decide to appeal you will have to go down this route anyway. Best to be one step ahead whenever possible as the waiting is long enough without any delays :rolleyes:

MrsGeneHunt

MustBeCrazy wrote: »

Hi there



As for the medical, the flexibility part is not too strenuous - just really showing you can bend to touch your toes without any pain etc and some bending of the knees and a little stretching. Unless you've had any specific injuries or illnesses affecting your joints you should be fine with that part of the medical.
HTH

MBC x

Thanks for that MBC
MGH v flexible;):eek:

MustBeCrazy

MrsGeneHunt wrote: »

Thanks for that MBC
MGH v flexible;):eek:

You're very welcome And for the hearing test...even if you just think you heard a beep press that button! And drink plenty of water before you go in so you give a nice clean sample :eek::D

PapaYankeeGirl

The hearing was weird. All I could hear was my breathing and my heart thumping!

bc84

same ^^^

smyff

PapaYankeeGirl wrote: »

The hearing was weird. All I could hear was my breathing and my heart thumping!

haha. heavy breathing? heart thumping? same old story :P!

i was the same. i was suprised at how much i could actually hear though, with the tunes usually on pretty loud all day! although, i can hear someone talk about me a mile away :pac: