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Banned from boards forum because I spoke Irish!

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    #32
    Anti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    Can someone translate the OPS irish post into english ? I haven't a ****ing bean what he was on about.


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    #33
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    GA361 wrote: »
    I was leaving a reply on this page the other day:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055309867&page=7

    As you can see I naturaly replied in this country's first language.
    Do you think the ban was fair.What would Michael Collins or Patric Pearse think of this action?

    Why are you speaking in English now? Is it because you understand no one will know what the **** you're saying?

    What would Michael Collins or Patric Pearse think of this action?


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    #34
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    leninbenjamin wrote: »
    I could and I'm far from fluent.
    Cool, but as I pointed out the following poster got the wrong end of the stick and that required further translation from GA361.

    Look as I wrote, if someone wants to write in Irish, followed by an English translation then I would personally have no objection to it.

    That said, how many of the mods of PI or other forums are fluent enough to know when a poster is being subtly abusive. I certainly couldn't tell.

    English is the majority language in this forum(outside of certain forums of course), so in giving advice in a forum such as PI then understandability is first and foremost the concern. GA361's presumption that the OP of the thread could understand Irish is bad enough. To then continue to shít stir is what got him banned from there.

    I agree with leeroybrown, if you wanted to make a point about Irish speakers, you certainly made it, but not in the way you should have wanted, I expect(then again...)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #35
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Private Message: ban from the personal issues forum
    Recipients: GA361

    ban from the personal issues forum
    You are banned for two weeks from the personal issues forum for off topic posting and questioning a mod action on the forum.

    I will not be willing to discuss this further with you.
    Are free to start threads in feedback about the ban and a thread about Irish on this website.

    English is the working language of this site and of the PI forum.

    Thaedydal

    That is the pm you got informing you of your ban and the reason for your ban.

    If you want to question this sites language policy fair enough but stop using it as a smokescreen as to why you were banned.


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    #36
    GA361
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    dublindude wrote: »
    Why are you speaking in English now? Is it because you understand no one will know what the **** you're saying?

    What would Michael Collins or Patric Pearse think of this action?

    Michael Collins spoke English in The Treaty negotiations,not Irish. . . So I guess he would understand . . .

    Also.I think that most people are forgetting the key point.
    Irish is the first language of this country and as such takes precidence over English.
    If you choose to discriminate against me because I am proud of my Irish culture,I accept that.I know how to take my licks like a man.It is not my fault if the OP in that PI thread couldnt understand the first language of this country.And again,all my original point was on topic.


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    #37
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Gordon wrote: »
    In Personal Issues? Really? Please provide a link and I'll personally look into it, thanks.

    Unless you are talking about usernames being in Arabic as per this thread which of course has nothing to do with this thread.

    I said it was in in Personal tissues? :pac:

    the very thread. oul squiggly name adresses me in squigglese and nary a mod bats an eyelid. He could have called me a c**t for all we know, the bowsie.


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    #38
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    So, he's complaining about not being able to speak in Irish on the site yet there is a forum for speaking Irish. AND... the post he made is not in line with the coversation in PI that was in English. If that was real life and someone just started randomly talking in Irish with everyone else speaking in English they'd be told to cop on.


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    #39
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    GA361 wrote: »
    Whether you believe I was trying to help the OP or not is irrelevent.The fact of the matter is,the point that I made was completely on-topic constructive critiscism.The fact that I naturally expressed my opinion in this country's first language is my own business and should not be questioned by anyone,including mods.You were the one who brought the conversation off-topic,not me,dont forget that.

    It is an irish site and not a gaeilgeoir site.

    You dishonor the hospitality of the owners of this site by speaking in a language their other guests can not understand, this site is their hall and they have said that a common language to all is to be spoken unless permission is granted otherwise.

    There are places here where you may converse as Gaeilge but the personal issues forum is not one of them.

    What is the point of wise words and advice if you choose to impart them in away they will not be understood by the person is need ?

    Indeed to do such mocks their need and shows ill judgment.

    The dialects of Gaeilge maybe the older languages of this land but the Irish republic has two languages which are considered equal under the constitution
    and the owners of this site, who's hospitality you enjoy and who's terms and conditions you agreed to be bound by when you signed up your account have stated that the common language of the site is English.

    You were directed by the mod of that forum to compile with the Terms and Conditions of the site and you went on to break the forums rules by questioning that mod action on the forum it's that simple.


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    #40
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    Completely deserved.
    GA361 wrote: »
    What would Michael Collins or Patric Pearse think of this action?
    He would have said that you're a trolling little wanker.

    Probably would have shot you, instead of boards just giving you a 2 week petty ban. Now go fúck off.


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    #41
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,307 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    SeantheLady wrote: »
    People who use this site and get unfairly banned, just want a 'sorry about that', from the mods.

    That's a fair enough point if anyone was unfairly banned. In this case the poster was banned for a breach of that forum's charter. He's not banned from the whole site, just PI. There's nothing to apologise for.

    Anyway, enjoy your next ban.


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    #42
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    SeantheLady wrote: »
    For Gordon,
    This city has few net spots to chose, i'm in net cafe with fat woman now.

    Anyway back to this.

    People who use this site and get unfairly banned, just want a 'sorry about that', from the mods.

    To the idiot who was saying best of luck on the radio, I will not need any luck.

    The operation of this site will collapse if people stop using it.
    boards.ie would be left with a bunch of mods banning each cause theres no one left to ban, it would get boring after a while, and so is this.

    Mods of Boards.ie just say SORRY to your users now and then and we can all shut up.

    Right, like that's gonna happen! :rolleyes:
    Boards is a privately owned website. They don't really have to let you post here. And if you start acting like an eejit they'll tell you to go away, much like if you walked into a shop and started shouting.


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    #43
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    SeantheLady wrote: »
    For Gordon,
    This city has few net spots to chose, i'm in net cafe with fat woman now.

    Anyway back to this.
    I share this website with people like you and your full of shít but you dont hear me bragging about that.
    People who use this site and get unfairly banned, just want a 'sorry about that', from the mods.
    Yah, and they want a sorry from the trolls.
    To the idiot who was saying best of luck on the radio, I will not need any luck.
    You go girl!
    The operation of this site will collapse if people stop using it.
    boards.ie would be left with a bunch of mods banning each cause theres no one left to ban, it would get boring after a while, and so is this.
    Actually, threads like these, when people fight the power, is just brilliant. Mods will agree that banning people "for speaking irish" has to be one of their favourite pasttimes. There's only one thing better than banning people, and thats hearing the people telling joe duffy about how they were banned "for no reason" or "speaking irish"
    Mods of Boards.ie just say SORRY to your users now and then and we can all shut up.
    Yah, I completely agree.... The admins should apologise to idiots like you and send this site down the gutter.


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    #44
    GA361
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    nevf wrote: »
    Completely deserved.

    He would have said that you're a trolling little wanker.

    Probably would have shot you, instead of boards just giving you a 2 week petty ban. Now go fúck off.

    I am not going to use bad language like you.
    Please do some research on Patric Pearse and Michael Collins before you slandarise their names.


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    #45
    Sherifu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu


    SeantheLady wrote: »
    Blah.
    STFU.


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    #46
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    SeantheLady wrote: »
    The operation of this site will collapse if people stop using it.
    boards.ie would be left with a bunch of mods banning each cause theres no one left to ban, it would get boring after a while, and so is this.

    Mods of Boards.ie just say SORRY to your users now and then and we can all shut up.
    Can't see that happening. Also, most of the people banned deserve it, and the rest were abnned for breaking the rules. Simple as.
    GA361 wrote: »
    I am not going to use bad language like you.
    Please do some research on Patric Pearse and Michael Collins before you slandarise their names.
    You don't have the right to use their names for the purpose of trolling.


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    #47
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    GA361 wrote: »
    I am not going to use bad language like you.
    Please do some research on Patric Pearse and Michael Collins before you slandarise their names.
    You'd want to do some research on what I just said, because I didn't "slandarise" them. I was just telling you what they would say about this.


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    #48
    Gran Hermano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Is maith liom caca milis


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    #49
    GA361
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    nevf wrote: »
    You'd want to do some research on what I just said, because I didn't "slandarise" them. I was just telling you what they would say about this.

    Your opinion is wrong though,Pearse was a Gaeilgeoir. . . . People like you disgusted him . . .


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    #50
    nesf
    Registered Users Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    If you want to talk in Irish almost all the time go here: http://www.daltai.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html

    Otherwise, accept that the main language used on this site is English. There are two forums where posting in Irish is welcomed and one of them encourages people to only post in Irish.

    Irish speakers are catered for here but you have to respect that the average person on here is a monolingual English speaker.


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    #51
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    GA361 wrote: »
    Michael Collins spoke English in The Treaty negotiations,not Irish. . . So I guess he would understand . . .
    Why was that then? Oh right so the majority of those around him would understand him, both Irish and English. Good manners really.
    Also.I think that most people are forgetting the key point.
    You're so far from the "key point" that you would need the services of the hubble telescope to spot it.
    Irish is the first language of this country and as such takes precidence over English.
    Really? Look around you. This is not any reflection of the pros and cons of Irish as a method of communication, merely stating the bloody obvious. Though you seem to have trouble with that.
    If you choose to discriminate against me because I am proud of my Irish culture,
    Jesus. Discrimination? Spoken like a man who has never truly suffered any. Pearse would be laughing at that one.
    I accept that.I know how to take my licks like a man.
    I hear the sound of a smug chest swelling.
    It is not my fault if the OP in that PI thread couldnt understand the first language of this country.
    You see it's all about good manners and consideration, not your personal issue(no pun intended). Good manners and consideration. Look em up, in a dictionary, either Irish or english. Do you good.
    And again,all my original point was on topic.
    Clearly you have a problem understanding the oul Bearla. No one said your original point was off topic.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #52
    GA361
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    That still doesnt cahnge the fact that I am trying to get across to all ye anti-republicans.
    Irish is more important than English in the eyes of this country's complete administration.


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    #53
    leninbenjamin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Cool, but as I pointed out the following poster got the wrong end of the stick and that required further translation from GA361.

    Look as I wrote, if someone wants to write in Irish, followed by an English translation then I would personally have no objection to it.

    I probably should have added in the bit where I say I agree with your actions 100%. i was just a bit surprised more people here couldn't understand it...


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    #54
    AARRRGH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭AARRRGH


    nevf wrote: »
    Completely deserved.

    He would have said that you're a trolling little wanker.

    Probably would have shot you, instead of boards just giving you a 2 week petty ban. Now go fúck off.

    LOL, vicious and funny! Nice combo.


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    #55
    Winters
    Registered Users Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    Some of us have an addiction to boards and are unable to stop posting no matter how long we try and go cold turkey for.

    GA361, stfu about WWPP do and WWMC do. Privatly owned website and the owners can ban or do whatever they wish to do with it (legally).


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    #56
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    SeantheLady wrote: »
    The operation of this site will collapse if people stop using it.
    boards.ie would be left with a bunch of mods banning each cause theres no one left to ban, it would get boring after a while, and so is this.

    Mods of Boards.ie just say SORRY to your users now and then and we can all shut up.

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    #57
    eVeNtInE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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    #58
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,307 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    GA361 wrote: »
    That still doesnt cahnge the fact that I am trying to get across to all ye anti-republicans.
    Irish is more important than English in the eyes of this country's complete administration.

    The inability to speak Irish does not make on an anti-republican.

    What exactly is a "compete administration"?

    Article 8 from Bunreacht na hEireann:
    Article 8
    1. The Irish language as the national language is the first official language.

    2. The English language is recognised as a second official language.

    3. Provision may, however, be made by law for the exclusive use of either of the said languages for any one or more official purposes, either throughout the State or in any part thereof.

    Both Irish and English are official languages. If English is good enough for the constitution, it's good enough for me.


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    #59
    GA361
    Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Why was that then? Oh right so the majority of those around him would understand him, both Irish and English. Good manners really.
    No,Collins spoke English to prevent the Black and Tans from brutally murdering any more Irish people.

    Wibbs wrote: »
    No one said your original point was off topic.

    Yes they did.That was the reason the moderator gave for banning me unfairly.


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    #60
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,307 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Mr Crystal wrote: »
    If I spoke in Polish or Latin in most of the forums Id be banned.

    No you wouldn't. If you repeatedly spoke Polish or Latin after being asked not to do so, then you'd be banned.


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    #61
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    What would Michael Collins or Patric Pearse think of this action?
    roflcopter.gif


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