Metallica - Death Magnetic.

Parsley · 28-07-2008 9:58pm

ven0m wrote: »

the sooner people get off this 'I want it to be 20 years ago buzz' & grow the f**k up, the better! hey I wanna be able to wear drain pipe jeans again - but that sure as **** isn't gonna happen any time soon...........

So what he's saying there is they've lost it, but they're keeping going cos there's money to be made. :pac:

Degag · 28-07-2008 10:51pm

Did they play any new songs on any of their european gigs?

lord lucan · 29-07-2008 12:14am

Tackle69 wrote: »

Did they play any new songs on any of their european gigs?

nope,not yet and i doubt they will until september given the news out this evening. they're playing 2 gigs,1 in berlin and 1 in london on the 12th and 15th of september respectively,i don't think it's too far out to suggest these 2 gigs fall around the release date.

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601050

Mushy · 29-07-2008 1:56pm

HashSlinging wrote: »

Is Robert Trujillo on bass now for Metallica. One of my all time favourite bassists from Suicidal Tendencies.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=wiGlDRQdXTM&feature=related

No offence intended here mate, but have you been living under a rock for the last 5/6 years? Or, a more plausible prospect, ya dont care for Tallica so ya just didnt know? He played bass on the St. Anger tour(not album) so been there for years.

Lord Lucan, expect the 12th for release over here, what withthe whole album-coming-out-Friday thing that happens here!

ven0m · 29-07-2008 5:23pm

Parsley wrote: »

So what he's saying there is they've lost it, but they're keeping going cos there's money to be made. :pac:

Nope. Hetfield has said himself they were trying too hard to be one thing or another or trying to hard to turn **** into gold, when they should have said "it's ****, dump it". He said it was something they fell into by habit with Bob Rock, as he was always about making very polished sounding albums, which is why they hired him.

I get the feeling even with 'Metallica' the album, that there was so much less fluidity or 'style path' from start to finish. There was too much variation, & too much being focussed on neatly tying up points in the songs; 'Wherever I May Roam' is such a classic example of it, the two solos are pointless boring, expected & predictable schlock, & frankly very VERY scalar phrygian pieces, even though the whole song is dominated by this, but it drives the point home of them moving away from going 'this sucks, bin it' to going to 'mayb we can make this work'.

Hetfield said the making of this album was about at the writing stage saying 'this sucks, bin it' if it sucks & not 'well what if we did a, b, or c to it'.

Either way, this album will have fans - people will buy it, Metallica will tour & still make a buttload of cash & there's no amount of online whinge threads, or fanboy QQ threads that will deter any of that from happening.

Bottom line: Metallica cemented their place in Rock music history. Anything they've put out has at least gone platinum. They rake in more money than any other rock music act out there from touring, & have a fanbase & catalogue that spans nearly 30 years.

There are few bands even now that could ever hope to achieve that, & many who have tried, failed & are now desperately trying to resurrect themselves after failures; Motley Crue for example (and I loved the Crue back in the day just to be clear).

faceman · 30-07-2008 10:23am

ven0m wrote: »

I get the feeling even with 'Metallica' the album, that there was so much less fluidity or 'style path' from start to finish. There was too much variation, & too much being focussed on neatly tying up points in the songs; 'Wherever I May Roam' is such a classic example of it, the two solos are pointless boring, expected & predictable schlock, & frankly very VERY scalar phrygian pieces, even though the whole song is dominated by this, but it drives the point home of them moving away from going 'this sucks, bin it' to going to 'mayb we can make this work'..

Despite its commercial success, im not a big fan of the selt titled album. It sounds almost over produced for me and plastic.

I agree re Whereever I may Roam. although in contrast i think Unforgiven is one of Hammett's best solo's throughout the Metallica catalogue. Despite my metallica fanboyism, i always felt Hammett was just a noodley-doodley kid.

ven0m · 30-07-2008 10:27am

faceman wrote: »

i always felt Hammett was just a noodley-doodley kid.

Self admittedly he is, it's why he received lessons from Joe Satriani to get him out of it.

As a fanboy quickie - the seafoam green Fender strat Kirk uses in the 'I Disappear' music video was sold to him by Joe Satriani.

'Metallica' as an album to me was schlock. I even preferred Load & ReLoad to it, & that's saying something, as at least they were stylistically consistent, & far more imaginative; i.e. 'The House That Jack Built', 'The Outlaw Torn', 'Ronnie'.

Mental Mickey · 30-07-2008 11:00am

ven0m wrote: »

Self admittedly he is, it's why he received lessons from Joe Satriani to get him out of it.

As a fanboy quickie - the seafoam green Fender strat Kirk uses in the 'I Disappear' music video was sold to him by Joe Satriani.

'Metallica' as an album to me was schlock. I even preferred Load & ReLoad to it, & that's saying something, as at least they were stylistically consistent, & far more imaginative; i.e. 'The House That Jack Built', 'The Outlaw Torn', 'Ronnie'.

IMO, Load is probably Metallica's most under-rated album. There are some fantastic songs on it:"Until It Sleeps", "Outlaw Torn", "Mama Said", and one of my all-time favourite Metallica songs "Bleeding Me".

somethingwitty · 30-07-2008 1:51pm

Surely we'll hear something new in Dublin??!!...

suckslikeafox · 30-07-2008 1:54pm

somethingwitty wrote: »

Surely we'll hear something new in Dublin??!!...

I remember them promising to play some new stuff later on in the tour alright. Seen most of the setlists on it so far and they're pretty old school but no new stuff to be found

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ven0m · 30-07-2008 2:11pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

IMO, Load is probably Metallica's most under-rated album. There are some fantastic songs on it:"Until It Sleeps", "Outlaw Torn", "Mama Said", and one of my all-time favourite Metallica songs "Bleeding Me".

I had ONE tiny issue with Load, that funnily enough wasn't as prevalent on ReLoad, that was the use of the octaved E chord thoughout soooooo may tracks

i.e.

E

B

G

D

A --7

E --0

Yes, this made such a change to the usual Em that's so prevalent in Metallica-music

i.e.

E

B

G

D

A --2

E --0

Load does have alot of creativity on it. I do like the slide guitar solo on 'Aint my bitch', I do like the entire musical landscape of 'The House That Jack Built' etc, & I frankly do like the tones used.

The new album, James is rocking Krankenstein amps & Kirk Randall's. Both brands are ones used & made famous by Dimebag Darrell for their hellacious sounds, so it gives me some hope of some decent sounding tones.

I never liked the crunch on AJFA, I thought it was so squeezed & compressed in the mix. MoP, fabulous sound. Load/ReLoad, nice unforced crunch. 'The Black Album' - ugh, horrendous guitar sound, nearly as bad as St Anger.

Although, frankly - give me a Zakk Wylde/Dimebag Darrell tone & I'm happy as a pig in

Mental Mickey · 30-07-2008 2:34pm

ven0m wrote: »

I had ONE tiny issue with Load, that funnily enough wasn't as prevalent on ReLoad, that was the use of the octaved E chord thoughout soooooo may tracks

i.e.

E
B
G
D
A --7
E --0

Yes, this made such a change to the usual Em that's so prevalent in Metallica-music

i.e.

E
B
G
D
A --2
E --0

Load does have alot of creativity on it. I do like the slide guitar solo on 'Aint my bitch', I do like the entire musical landscape of 'The House That Jack Built' etc, & I frankly do like the tones used.

The new album, James is rocking Krankenstein amps & Kirk Randall's. Both brands are ones used & made famous by Dimebag Darrell for their hellacious sounds, so it gives me some hope of some decent sounding tones.

I never liked the crunch on AJFA, I thought it was so squeezed & compressed in the mix. MoP, fabulous sound. Load/ReLoad, nice unforced crunch. 'The Black Album' - ugh, horrendous guitar sound, nearly as bad as St Anger.

Although, frankly - give me a Zakk Wylde/Dimebag Darrell tone & I'm happy as a pig in

I don't usually analyze the sound that degree, but as long as it rocks, I'll be happy. The problem with AJFA, was that the guy who produced/recorded it - Mike Clink of GnR fame - totally forgot about poor Jason's bass sound. There are waaaaaaaaaaaay too many layers of guitar on it too, and it just sounds horrible. Same problem with the Black album - too many layers of guitars piled on top of each other - still a bloody good album though!?

ven0m · 30-07-2008 3:14pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

I don't usually analyze the sound that degree, but as long as it rocks, I'll be happy. The problem with AJFA, was that the guy who produced/recorded it - Mike Clink of GnR fame - totally forgot about poor Jason's bass sound. There are waaaaaaaaaaaay too many layers of guitar on it too, and it just sounds horrible. Same problem with the Black album - too many layers of guitars piled on top of each other - still a bloody good album though!?

Them's the breaks of being a kid growing up learning to play guitar when Metallica was around, & having been weened on Sabbath, Ozzy, Zep etc ...... it's a crime really.

let's not bring up the Jason-Newkid thing, cos that topic has been beaten to death, resurrected & re-beaten more times than the Hoff's career.

pbsuxok1znja4r · 31-07-2008 12:39am

I've said it before and will say it again; Load and to a slightly lesser extent Re-Load some of the best stuff this band have done. Definitely the best thing they've done since the 80's. I'm done with this band though, I hope the new album is terrible.

feylya · 31-07-2008 11:57am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvaB2na9HDs

Interview with Hetfield. There's an instrumental on Death Magnetic

Mental Mickey · 31-07-2008 12:12pm

feylya wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvaB2na9HDs

Interview with Hetfield. There's an instrumental on Death Magnetic

Oooooooooooold news.

feylya · 31-07-2008 12:24pm

You mean the Instrumental or the 3 day old video?

Mental Mickey · 31-07-2008 2:14pm

feylya wrote: »

You mean the Instrumental or the 3 day old video?

The fact that there is an instrumental on the new album. This new album is getting too close for comfort to being MOP II for my liking. I don't think that it would be a good move...............?

ven0m · 31-07-2008 2:55pm

Mental Mickey wrote: »

The fact that there is an instrumental on the new album. This new album is getting too close for comfort to being MOP II for my liking. I don't think that it would be a good move...............?

So you've heard it then?

How about every actually waits until it gets released before forming an opinion on 'what this album is'. That's how our Dad's did it. That's how everyone else does it. And it's worked out pretty good so far.

pyure · 31-07-2008 4:02pm

ven0m wrote: »

How about every actually waits until it gets released before forming an opinion on 'what this album is'. That's how our Dad's did it. That's how everyone else does it. And it's worked out pretty good so far.

+1 for that. Besides he basically says that it's not going to be mop2, but I like the idea that they're trying to focus on the feel of the band at that time.

The one concern I do have having listened to st anger recently is that they spend more time on the vocals this time around, but I'm confident that the album will be awesome, can't wait

Rockee · 01-08-2008 1:20pm

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601058

The 'dust' shot is fuxxing great.

ven0m · 01-08-2008 2:12pm

Rockee wrote: »

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601058

The 'dust' shot is fuxxing great.

Another video in the vein of 'I Disappear', that's pretty sweet cos I do quite like that video.....

lord lucan · 01-08-2008 7:08pm

Rockee wrote: »

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=601058

The 'dust' shot is fuxxing great.

i hope they taped up their cabinets and equipment,that amount of dust would destroy them:eek:

slayerking · 02-08-2008 10:24am

Release date people.

Only about 5 weeks left to wait!!!

Devilman · 02-08-2008 1:09pm

Found the following info on this new video...concept is interesting.

link

I'm getting ready for another "Don't tread on me" type sh1tstorm

Stev_o · 02-08-2008 2:19pm

“Rob had contributed more to this record than Jason [Newsted] had in 15 years.” *Hetfield*

Well maybe if you let him contribute to some of the albums :rolleyes:

Mental Mickey · 02-08-2008 3:25pm

Stev_o wrote: »

“Rob had contributed more to this record than Jason [Newsted] had in 15 years.” *Hetfield*

Well maybe if you let him contribute to some of the albums :rolleyes:

That's only half the quote dude. He goes on to say that he didn't contribute much because "we were always putting him down".

Mental Mickey · 02-08-2008 3:26pm

slayerking wrote: »

Release date people.

Only about 5 weeks left to wait!!!

Do we in Ireland get it on the same day? Zavvi still says September 15th - which is Monday!?

Doctor J · 03-08-2008 10:14am

I would take it as worldwide meaning worldwide, no?

P.S. That 'A' is head wrecking. If yer gonna use the old logo do it ****ing right :rolleyes:

Devilman · 03-08-2008 4:06pm

which "a" is headwrecking ? they're both wrong

Metallica - Death Magnetic.

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