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    #3662
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    I wouldn't think so, people where getting vetting and medical forms from July, so they would have had no idea if they would be in the top scores bracket. If they went from past years, then fair enough, but I think it is just such a random process. As I have said before, I know a few guys that did very well in the IST and thought they had done better in the A/C than previous years, and they havn't received anything.

    Just have to wait until they decide to put us out of our misery, but I know one thing, I would be well annoyed with the amount of times that people would be ringing me and asking.... They should just say, "give us a ring on such a day and they should be ready", instead of saying "I am not at liberty to divulge that information" lol... Just annoys everybody!!


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    #3663
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Not good either that I have just been told that I have to leave my job at the end of next month!!! Relying on getting a good merit score now more than ever!!


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    #3664
    siv4444
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭siv4444


    exactly adam!!
    what do you mean by ist, is that the first test we did? how do you know they did well from it are we able to find out???


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    #3665
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Yeah, the initial selection test. You can e-mail them with your name and your number, and ask them to post out the results of your IST and they do just that. I got mine within 3 days. Its out of 75 and I got 59 which I was happy enough with.


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    #3666
    siv4444
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭siv4444


    aw no way thats terrible, even more pressure on you, well i wish you all the best


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    #3667
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    So who is calling again in the morning?:D

    No sense us all calling to be told the same thing!:rolleyes:


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    #3668
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Well I called today, so i think it is someone elses turn!! Bright and early people....


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    #3669
    Pcpete2009
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭Pcpete2009


    adam2695 wrote: »
    I wouldn't think so, people where getting vetting and medical forms from July, so they would have had no idea if they would be in the top scores bracket. If they went from past years, then fair enough, but I think it is just such a random process. As I have said before, I know a few guys that did very well in the IST and thought they had done better in the A/C than previous years, and they havn't received anything.

    Just have to wait until they decide to put us out of our misery, but I know one thing, I would be well annoyed with the amount of times that people would be ringing me and asking.... They should just say, "give us a ring on such a day and they should be ready", instead of saying "I am not at liberty to divulge that information" lol... Just annoys everybody!!

    Well I have to agree that this process is extremely random, there is absolutely no reason why they can't tell you an exact date as to when the merit scores are out!! Without having the merit scores we can only speculate as to how random it is!!! However some clarification can be gained from http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2007/em/uksiem_20070912_en.pdf which is a piece of legislation which aims to clarify the appointments of officers, it basically prevents the PSNI from putting people through the medical and vetting process if they have no real chance of appointment subject to 50;50!!


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    #3670
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Pcpete2009 wrote: »
    it basically prevents the PSNI from putting people through the medical and vetting process if they have no real chance of appointment subject to 50;50!!

    That's not strictly true. They need to have enough people to fill places of people who decline the job for whatever reason. Just because you have been vetted and passed your medical doesn't mean you're automatically in.

    Example: 440 places. X number don't take the job. They need X number of people prepped and ready to dial. That's why knowing your merit number will help you assess whether you're definitely in, definitely out, or on a reserve list.


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    #3671
    Pcpete2009
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭Pcpete2009


    psni wrote: »
    That's not strictly true. They need to have enough people to fill places of people who decline the job for whatever reason. Just because you have been vetted and passed your medical doesn't mean you're automatically in.

    Example: 440 places. X number don't take the job. They need X number of people prepped and ready to dial. That's why knowing your merit number will help you assess whether you're definitely in, definitely out, or on a reserve list.

    Cheers this was sort of what I tried to say but didn't quite explain it as well as PSNI!!! What I can say for certian is whole thing is very random and everyones experience is extremely different!!

    Give us those merit numbers and stop stringen the majority of us along!!!


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    #3672
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    It's awful isn't it? I can't see why they don't just post everyone's merit pool number out to them and make it as transparent as possible.


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    #3673
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Right guys, whos ringing today????


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    #3674
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    Just did. A couple more weeks they rekon!:(


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    #3675
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Thats madness, end of September my ***


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    #3676
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    You said it. I guess we just have to try to forget that the whole process is happening for another month rather than working ourselves up.

    Perhaps they are trying to get more people through medicals, vetting, etc. before releasing it though I am not sure that would matter as I understood scores are based on A/c performance.

    As the Beatles liked to sing "Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be"!:D


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    #3677
    Pcpete2009
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭Pcpete2009


    An insider has told me that the first rounds of dear john letters are out in the post today and tomorrow!!! Bracing myself for impact


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    #3678
    elizabeth2009
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26 ✭elizabeth2009


    yeah, when i was on the phone the other day to change my address details they told me that i had to send them it in writting asap because they were posting out some letters very shortly!


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    #3679
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    Pcpete2009 wrote: »
    An insider has told me that the first rounds of dear john letters are out in the post today and tomorrow!!! Bracing myself for impact


    Crickey O'Reilly!:eek:

    Now we have no merit scores and we have to fret over what may arrive in the post!

    This whole process is one happy stroll in the park!:P


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    #3680
    adam2695
    Closed Accounts Posts: 42 ✭adam2695


    Not good, not liking hearing that to be honest.... Everybody keep thinking positive tho


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    #3681
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    Pcpete2009 wrote: »
    An insider has told me that the first rounds of dear john letters are out in the post today and tomorrow!!! Bracing myself for impact

    Hey PcPete. How relaible would you say this insider is? I guess some of us may find out soon enough!

    Did he or she have anything to say about the merit list, like when it will be released, why there has been a hold up, etc.?

    Does anyone know how many people passed the A/c to begin with? I am just wondering if like half of all remaining candidates will be getting 'dear Johns' or whether it will only be relatively few at this stage!?:confused:


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    #3682
    Pcpete2009
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭Pcpete2009


    Gonetoosoon wrote: »
    Hey PcPete. How relaible would you say this insider is? I guess some of us may find out soon enough!

    Did he or she have anything to say about the merit list, like when it will be released, why there has been a hold up, etc.?

    Does anyone know how many people passed the A/c to begin with? I am just wondering if like half of all remaining candidates will be getting 'dear Johns' or whether it will only be relatively few at this stage!?:confused:

    Not sure!! But she has no reason to lie!! All she really said was that they are sending letters out!! She said that she thinks they have the merit list but she thinks they want to manage the phonecalls a bit better this year, and they are letting those who are not in with a chance know (dear John) and telling those who are on the list that they are on it!!

    Apparently they don't have to release merit numbers at all!!

    Anyone heard that before?


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    #3683
    Shield
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,812 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Pcpete2009 wrote: »
    Apparently they don't have to release merit numbers at all!!
    They could try it, but AFAIK they're on shaky legal ground by withholding this information if you were to stick in an FOI request. They don't have any reasonable grounds for not giving it to you.


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    #3684
    Slave_To_Sound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Slave_To_Sound


    Pcpete2009 wrote: »
    An insider has told me that the first rounds of dear john letters are out in the post today and tomorrow!!! Bracing myself for impact

    Well thanks just fannnnnntastic. Its just like a game show all this tension and stress for no reason but Im sure it amusing someone somewhere locked away in an office :)


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    #3685
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    PcPete: "they are letting those who are not in with a chance know (dear John) and telling those who are on the list that they are on it!!"



    I know it is not safe to assume anything but since I have done vetting and a medical it would be very strange if they just told me I have no chance now. It wouldnt make sense would it?!

    And by the above does your friend mean if we simply ask whether we are on the list we will be told yes or no??


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    #3686
    Bifbert
    Closed Accounts Posts: 129 ✭✭Bifbert


    Gonetoosoon wrote: »
    PcPete: "they are letting those who are not in with a chance know (dear John) and telling those who are on the list that they are on it!!"



    I know it is not safe to assume anything but since I have done vetting and a medical it would be very strange if they just told me I have no chance now. It wouldnt make sense would it?!

    And by the above does your friend mean if we simply ask whether we are on the list we will be told yes or no??

    yeah lucky you! I still haven't got vetting/med forms so if this malarky about getting dear johns sent is true i'm not feeling to confident :(


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    #3687
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    If anyone gets a 'dear john' please let us know. I will do likewise if Im not ignoring the post. It would just be good to know if anything is happening in this process.

    Cheers


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    #3688
    MrsMikeLowrey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭MrsMikeLowrey


    Just spoke to Recruitment, they cannot advise any details of merit list, but did confirm that letters are going out to ALL applicants yesterday and today! EEK, feeling a little sick now :eek:


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    #3689
    Gonetoosoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41 ✭Gonetoosoon


    MrsMikeLowrey wrote: »
    Just spoke to Recruitment, they cannot advise any details of merit list, but did confirm that letters are going out to ALL applicants yesterday and today! EEK, feeling a little sick now :eek:


    All applicants!?!:eek:

    At least we should know one way or another what is happening. Perhaps they are advising everyone of their merit score/not successful. That would make more sense and give the people answering the phones up there a bit of a break!

    Just hope these letters do clarify things and that its good news for all the boardies!:o

    Now who is gonna get theirs first? I live in the sticks so I would say I will be lucky to get it before monday!:(


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    #3690
    Slave_To_Sound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭Slave_To_Sound


    Brilliant news ! at least there will be some sort of clarity now its definitely better knowing either way instead of being kept in the dark.
    Of course i want to get the job but if I have no chance I really want to know so I can get on with things until next campaign.

    Good luck everyone hold on tight!!!


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    #3691
    Bubba1981
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Bubba1981


    I've just nipped home from work to check and there's no post - could be they're using 2nd class post to save the pennies so I wouldn't worry if nothing's received today or tomorrow.


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