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shampon

minerdees wrote: »

Being an armed force does the PSNI have a similar unit to SO19 in the Met. Just asking as that would be where I would see myself going if I get in (that or dog handling cos dogs rule all)

I see myself as a one man unit incorporating all those things.

Delancey

minerdees wrote: »

Being an armed force does the PSNI have a similar unit to SO19 in the Met. Just asking as that would be where I would see myself going if I get in (that or dog handling cos dogs rule all)

AFAIK there is a specialised unit that would roughly equate to SO19 / SWAT , not sure what they're called.
I understand that the dog unit is massively oversubscribed with applicants exceeding the number of vacancies many times over.

Shield

Our Armed Response Unit (ARU) sounds like the place for you in that case. I don't really want to disclose too much about them, but if you Google "psni armed response unit" you'll get a rough idea.

minerdees wrote: »

Being an armed force does the PSNI have a similar unit to SO19 in the Met. Just asking as that would be where I would see myself going if I get in (that or dog handling cos dogs rule all)

Lucky23

PSNI have the HMSU which are the top trained boys who deal with dangerous arrests of people with weapons (paramilitaries/big drug dealers etc). From what I know they are very highly trained and spend a lot of time planning their operations.

I've spoken to a recently retired officer who had said about a fairly new unit which is more of an armed response unit and he felt that it was quite dangerous as they are a bit more gung ho, being a response unit rather than a unit carrying out planned operations. I'm presuming that's the ARU you are talking about?

wanadrum

I want to be a dog handler!

Only thing is there is little chance of getting to work dogs in PSNI as there aren't that many spaces, but so many people who want to do it. Dead mens shoes is a phrase I've heard ref dog handling in PSNI

1986j

Lucky23 wrote: »

PSNI have the HMSU which are the top trained boys who deal with dangerous arrests of people with weapons (paramilitaries/big drug dealers etc). From what I know they are very highly trained and spend a lot of time planning their operations.

I've spoken to a recently retired officer who had said about a fairly new unit which is more of an armed response unit and he felt that it was quite dangerous as they are a bit more gung ho, being a response unit rather than a unit carrying out planned operations. I'm presuming that's the ARU you are talking about?

HMSU sounds like the type of thing I would eventually like to do if I got in. Counter-Terrorism also sounds interesting.

gigity gigity

BoutYe wrote: »

Well the first idea to ruin for you is the souped up landrovers. They are slow, noisey, and if you're in the back then very bumpy Freezing in the winter, sweltering in the summer.

Now, as for a typical day, well each day is different but generally you will get in to work, get changed, have your briefing and get detailed your crew.

Then, depending on calls (which really depends on where you get stationed) you'll have time to do paperwork etc or hit the streets. If there is nothing outstanding I'll tend to get on the computer and see if there is anything urgent needing looking at. Make some phonecalls etc. Then get out of the station and spin about and see whats happening. If you're in a busy station like myself then you wont have much free time.


The cars are generally crap too, the r32s etc are for traffic.

Will there be enough time for tea? Lately in work im rarely seen without one!

dixie33

1986j wrote: »

HMSU sounds like the type of thing I would eventually like to do if I got in. Counter-Terrorism also sounds interesting.

I found this video, apparently its HMSU ? but i havent confirmed this. Either way it gives u an insight into the sort of training they may do in the HMSU. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRlheELZlAA

1986j

I know a cop who applied for close protection course within the PSNI for overtime. He said the training was gruelling. Long long days and the assessment was even longer. he commenetd on they had to hit certain targets etc and drop to the ground.

Looks cool. Also, I know you get to request where you wish to be placed. As a single male with no kids etc wopuld you more likely to be based in bandit country etc (does not bother me) just heard this.

BoutYe

gigity gigity wrote: »

Will there be enough time for tea? Lately in work im rarely seen without one!

I'll be honest, you will almost always have time to grab a cuppa. You may not always be able to stop for half an hour and eat your lunch, but generally you will be able to get two minutes.

And even then, its not very often you wont be able to get a feed. Now my last set of shifts I only got lunch 1 out of 4 days, but they were very very busy.

BoutYe

dixie33 wrote: »

I found this video, apparently its HMSU ? but i havent confirmed this. Either way it gives u an insight into the sort of training they may do in the HMSU. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRlheELZlAA

That looks american to me. I think it would be safe to say its not HMSU.

Lucky23

BoutYe wrote: »

That looks american to me. I think it would be safe to say its not HMSU.

Yeah whoever has posted the video has said PSNI, watch and learn. Definitely not HMSU

Lucky23

Interesting debate by a couple of serving/ex officers here about the ARU's coming in and whether there is a need for them and they are cost effective

http://www.closeprotectionworld.co.uk/police-armed-response-forum/8294-garda-armed-unit.html#post27987

wanadrum

Definitely not PSNI - anyway, the question is not how to use the weapons the question is about being allowed to use them. In NI there are plenty of people in the security services able to use such weapons.

dixie33

BoutYe wrote: »

That looks american to me. I think it would be safe to say its not HMSU.

didn't think it was the PSNI HMSU
Ive seen my mates dad in his gear and its not what they're wearing in that video, oh well still gives a bit of insight into what training for HMSU may be like.

Another link i have for you all, this times its useful
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/5392164/How-to-Pass-the-Police-Recruitment-Tests/Product.html

Its a book that helps you pass your tests etc and tells you a bit about what each test consists off, it doesnt give details of roleplays though.
But i had a read through it in school this week and it seems very useful as it gives a lot of insight into each stage of recruitment. In saying that however it seems to focus on English, Scottish and Welsh police tests but it's still relevant as it covers IST, A/C and medical. Anyway, check it out, very good book.

wanadrum

I'd immagine it is american (and they would actually be allowed to use it....).

I liked the way they covered eachother/made themselves as smaller as a target when changin magazines.

That training would be good fun alright.

On another note, there is some utter rubbish posted on youtube re psni/ruc etc etc and it is quite saddening and irratating.

dixie33

wanadrum wrote: »

I'd immagine it is american (and they would actually be allowed to use it....).

I liked the way they covered eachother/made themselves as smaller as a target when changin magazines.

That training would be good fun alright.

On another note, there is some utter rubbish posted on youtube re psni/ruc etc etc and it is quite saddening and irratating.

I know, did u see all that other utter bulls**t, it angers me. Things like "PSNI brutality". I really wish people could see that the PSNI are here to help and aren't out to get them, as a lot of people seem to feel.
I actualy dont think theres anything on youtube that portrays the PSNI in a positive light.

princess deity

dixie33 wrote: »

I know, did u see all that other utter bulls**t, it angers me. Things like "PSNI brutality". I really wish people could see that the PSNI are here to help and aren't out to get them, as a lot of people seem to feel.
I actualy dont think theres anything on youtube that portrays the PSNI in a positive light.

Unfortunately its the nature of the beast and I Totally agree with you there but realising that now is half the battle cause its a severe culture shock when one starts the job and it becomes reality that some people still hold such anger and hatred towards the police, but do remember its the uniform they see and not the person inside wearing the uniform.

Being a police officer has its up and downs, it has to be up there with the most testing, thankless, ungrateful jobs that you could ever get into, but then again you have the times when you get justice or do something for someone, someone who really needs your help and you see the appreciation, respect and admiration they and their family & friends hold for you and it all comes clear why you put that uniform on your back each shift and put your life on the line for others.
Being a Police Officer is a whirlwind of emotions, you suddenly become this person who has the capability of having a HUGE impact on the future and lives of others within the community, sometimes good, sometimes not so good, this is a privilege that should not be taken for granted . You will have days that you leave the station and your on top of the world and other days you will wonder what the hell your doing there.

But remember every time your donning that uniform you must not be ignorant to what has happened in the past, you must understand and respect that there are persons within the community who lost loved ones throughout the troubles and these are painful memories which are impossible to erase. Some of these people have chosen to move on and just want a safe & peaceful future for the north of Ireland , but there is a minority who can only be described as nothing less then criminals who want to live in the past and continue the pain and hurt igniting the bitter pain that the north of Ireland once knew.

Remember every time you wear that uniform your demonstrating a very selfless act unlike some in our community and it takes a very strong willed and unique individual to do that. When you do get the opportunity to hit the street proudly wearing the PSNI uniform remember be honest, be accountable for your actions, be respectful and professional at all times and you will be the making of a tip top peeler.

Delancey

First Class princess , thanks for that

dixie33

princess deity wrote: »

Unfortunately its the nature of the beast and I Totally agree with you there but realising that now is half the battle cause its a severe culture shock when one starts the job and it becomes reality that some people still hold such anger and hatred towards the police, but do remember its the uniform they see and not the person inside wearing the uniform.

Being a police officer has its up and downs, it has to be up there with the most testing, thankless, ungrateful jobs that you could ever get into, but then again you have the times when you get justice or do something for someone, someone who really needs your help and you see the appreciation, respect and admiration they and their family & friends hold for you and it all comes clear why you put that uniform on your back each shift and put your life on the line for others.
Being a Police Officer is a whirlwind of emotions, you suddenly become this person who has the capability of having a HUGE impact on the future and lives of others within the community, sometimes good, sometimes not so good, this is a privilege that should not be taken for granted . You will have days that you leave the station and your on top of the world and other days you will wonder what the hell your doing there.

But remember every time your donning that uniform you must not be ignorant to what has happened in the past, you must understand and respect that there are persons within the community who lost loved ones throughout the troubles and these are painful memories which are impossible to erase. Some of these people have chosen to move on and just want a safe & peaceful future for the north of Ireland , but there is a minority who can only be described as nothing less then criminals who want to live in the past and continue the pain and hurt igniting the bitter pain that the north of Ireland once knew.

Remember every time you wear that uniform your demonstrating a very selfless act unlike some in our community and it takes a very strong willed and unique individual to do that. When you do get the opportunity to hit the street proudly wearing the PSNI uniform remember be honest, be accountable for your actions, be respectful and professional at all times and you will be the making of a tip top peeler.

Very well said.

Shield

Great post princess deity.

1986j

Just a quick question.

Was out a spin in the car and got pulled over driving through a residential area. Cops in unmarked cars (did not see any Landrovers) doing road checkpoints.

When they pulled me over they asked for ID - I had none on me. Then they asked my name, DOB and address which he wrote down on a small booklet sheet. He also looked at the tax disc and took my reg.

They were ARV's if that makes a difference. I presume this is just a check to see if I had been driving legally or is it just to monitor goings on in certain areas?

princess deity

I wouldnt worry unless they pulled you up on any aspect of your driving etc... just doing their job.

1986j wrote: »

Just a quick question.

Was out a spin in the car and got pulled over driving through a residential area. Cops in unmarked cars (did not see any Landrovers) doing road checkpoints.

When they pulled me over they asked for ID - I had none on me. Then they asked my name, DOB and address which he wrote down on a small booklet sheet. He also looked at the tax disc and took my reg.

They were ARV's if that makes a difference. I presume this is just a check to see if I had been driving legally or is it just to monitor goings on in certain areas?

Yeah wouldn't worry about it mate, was reading in the paper earlier about police checkpoints being stepped up for the next few weeks round my ways to combat bad guy activities, so probably could just be the same thing!

Unless you got something to hide afterall...then run!! :P

Delancey

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah wouldn't worry about it mate, was reading in the paper earlier about police checkpoints being stepped up for the next few weeks round my ways to combat bad guy activities, so probably could just be the same thing!

Unless you got something to hide afterall...then run!! :P

Ha ha , thats what you think plugin - actually they're after you , be afraid .....be very afraid..... nice to see you back , missed you the last couple of weeks

delancey42

delancey42 wrote: »

Ha ha , thats what you think plugin - actually they're after you , be afraid .....be very afraid..... nice to see you back , missed you the last couple of weeks

Oooh I should've knew something was amiss when I kept noticing all these mysterious and shady looking dark motors following me about with a dude in the passenger seat with binoculars and a camera...damn my game is up!

Cheers mate! Iv'e been lurking just the past while, not got so much to say now that I'm out of the game so just waiting for opportunities to chirp in about something! I just can't bear to leave you good folks completely

1986j

Not worried at all just wondering what was the purpose of taking my name and address etc

I genuinely do not care if the peelers stop me. Thats about the 5th time in 3 days now. Pretty common where I live.

Probably just procedure seeing as you didn't have id on you, a few simple checks would confirm your details in no time!

I personally love getting stopped by the police...but that's just because it's the perfect opportunity for me to do some flirting with some of our oh so fine looking police officers

Delancey

Deleted User wrote: »

Probably just procedure seeing as you didn't have id on you, a few simple checks would confirm your details in no time!

I personally love getting stopped by the police...but that's just because it's the perfect opportunity for me to do some flirting with some of our oh so fine looking police officers

Hmm , thats your vetting up the spout anyway - they've probably got you pegged as a '' Police Fetishist ''

1986j

Deleted User wrote: »

Probably just procedure seeing as you didn't have id on you, a few simple checks would confirm your details in no time!

I personally love getting stopped by the police...but that's just because it's the perfect opportunity for me to do some flirting with some of our oh so fine looking police officers

Haha my mate got knocked off his motorbike a while back. I drove past him a fe minutes later. Ended up chatting to the cop about GV and his application process lol