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Offaly Stupid?

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  • 15-06-2008 11:43am
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    thecaptain
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    OK, we have the rich south dubliners voting for the Treaty and we have a few "people" in the west.

    However the Offaly people vote YES.

    What is Offaly the new Ballsbridge??????? Catch yourselves on, Big Brian Cow-en is a globalist not an ordinary BIFFO.

    Shows the effects a bit of propaganda and "patriotism" can have on the plebs.


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    In/Casino/Out
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    That's a nice thing to say about the people of Offaly.


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    _JOE_
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    Or maybe just common sense...


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    force eleven
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    _JOE_ wrote: »
    Or maybe just common sense...

    The Cowen honeymoon still goes on near here. In Clara they still have the bunting and posters up welcoming Cowen back as Taoiseach. No wonder Offaly voted Yes, nothing to do with EU, everything to do with Cowen.


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    thecaptain
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    force eleven wrote: »
    The Cowen honeymoon still goes on near here. In Clara they still have the bunting and posters up welcoming Cowen back as Taoiseach. No wonder Offaly voted Yes, nothing to do with EU, everything to do with Cowen.

    Exactly, hence my comments. Cowen is a globalist, he represents Europe, not the Offaly people.

    SO why vote YES based on the fact that the big man comes from Offaly??????

    Madness.


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    irish_bob
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    thecaptain wrote: »
    OK, we have the rich south dubliners voting for the Treaty and we have a few "people" in the west.

    However the Offaly people vote YES.

    What is Offaly the new Ballsbridge??????? Catch yourselves on, Big Brian Cow-en is a globalist not an ordinary BIFFO.

    Shows the effects a bit of propaganda and "patriotism" can have on the plebs.

    evereything you write in the above posts suggests to me a better title for your thread would have been

    AM I STUPID


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    intheknow37
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    +1


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    IRLConor
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    thecaptain wrote: »
    OK, we have the rich south dubliners voting for the Treaty

    You could argue that Yes votes were correlated with wealth.

    Or you could argue that Yes votes were correlated with education and literacy.

    Or, preferably, you could not make wide sweeping assumptions about why people voted yes or no.


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    thecaptain
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    irish_bob wrote: »
    evereything you write in the above posts suggests to me a better title for your thread would have been

    AM I STUPID

    OK, explain to me why the Offaly people YES, when virtually every other area outside of Dublin voted NO.

    I await this massive piece if insight.


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    intheknow37
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    Because we are known as the faithful county ...


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    thecaptain
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    intheknow37 wrote: »
    Because we are known as the faithful county ...

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

    You have been sold out long ago, just as the rest of us have.

    Big Brain is not your "mate".


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    intheknow37
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    actually he is and what exactly has he sold "us" out on


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    thecaptain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭thecaptain


    intheknow37 wrote: »
    actually he is and what exactly has he sold "us" out on

    The whole European concept. Look around and evaluate things for yourself, not just base opinions on the paid opinion makers who will always tell us how great "Europe" is.


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    PopeBuckfastXVI
    Registered Users Posts: 5,155 ✭✭✭PopeBuckfastXVI


    thecaptain wrote: »
    OK, explain to me why the Offaly people YES, when virtually every other area outside of Dublin voted NO.

    I await this massive piece if insight.

    This is a misinterpretation of the results. Most results across the country were a little over 50% against the treaty. This means that just under half of the voters in 'virtually every other area outside of Dublin' actually voted yes.

    Your entire premise is false, and as such I reject your thesis... whatever it is!

    Also your scare quotes around the word 'people' when referring to those who voted 'yes' infers they are not actually really people, which is blatently ignorant.


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    In/Casino/Out
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    Omg yeah! And did you hear Europe is gonna turn into a fascist state with Cowen leading the way!?
    I'll believe it when I see it. If you hate Europe so much leave.


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    thecaptain
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    PopeBuckfastXVI wrote: »
    This is a misinterpretation of the results. Most results across the country were a little over 50% against the treaty. This means that just under half of the voters in 'virtually every other area outside of Dublin' actually voted yes.

    Your entire premise is false, and as such I reject your thesis... whatever it is!

    Also your scare quotes around the word 'people' when referring to those who voted 'yes' infers they are not actually really people, which is blatently ignorant.

    Look at the percentage voting for/against and then come back to me.

    Offaly the "new" Ballsbridge.

    As for ignorant, maybe you want to ponder the fact that we are already being bull horned into a second "go", when we know better.


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    intheknow37
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    i have looked around..in the last 15 years this country has boomed like never before and a lot of that was due to us being in the EU.


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    thecaptain
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    intheknow37 wrote: »
    i have looked around..in the last 15 years this country has boomed like never before and a lot of that was due to us being in the EU.

    Don't confuse relaxed banking policies with an improved quality of life.


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    intheknow37
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    and i suppose all the leading bank officials were all from OFFALY..??????


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    irish_bob
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    thecaptain wrote: »
    OK, explain to me why the Offaly people YES, when virtually every other area outside of Dublin voted NO.

    I await this massive piece if insight.

    1st of all im pleased to be able to say that my own constituence of meath east voted yes also

    2ndly , while the no vote clearly won , it was not a landslide and in many constituencies , it was a small majority that voted no

    im perplexed as to why anyone would feel the need to pour scorn over such a large minority of voters


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    efb
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    Yes, clearly all the people in Carlow/Kilkenny, Clare and Offaly/Laois were hoodwinked were all duped, maybe the Yes in CW/KK was the Mary White factor??? And of course the Yuppies in Dublin don't count because they're rich..
    But I'm stupid because a yes vote means we lose our commissioner..., oh wait
    Our kids would be conscripted into a Super EU army ([sarcasm]maybe thats why the unemployed voted no, imagine working, ugh...[/sarcasm])
    Our unborn kids would be aborted
    Agreeing EU countries could harmonise their tax, which would mean would we have to join in...

    Glad I now know that people who voted yes are stupid....


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    intheknow37
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    captain is off having his din dins ....come back captain as your great crack...


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    PopeBuckfastXVI
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    thecaptain wrote: »
    Look at the percentage voting for/against and then come back to me.

    I have and your premise is still flawed, and I continue to reject the thesis based upon it.


    thecaptain wrote: »
    As for ignorant, maybe you want to ponder the fact that we are already being bull horned into a second "go", when we know better.

    You have inferred with the use of scare quotes that anyone who voted yes is not a human being, it doesn't matter if Brian Cowen sacrifices kittens to the devil, your inferral is still ignorant.


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    irish_bob
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    one would think from listening to the likes of captain that the eu was china and donegal was tibet , police state indeed


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    tenandtracer
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    irish_bob wrote: »
    donegal was tibet ,

    Give the Tibetans a break - they've been thru' enough:D


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    irish_bob
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    tenandtracer wrote: »
    Give the Tibetans a break - they've been thru' enough:D

    cheerfully withdrawn


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    skearon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭skearon


    thecaptain wrote: »
    Shows the effects a bit of propaganda and "patriotism" can have on the plebs.

    Or that people were canvassed, and the Yes side were able to explain the benefits of the treaty and show up the lies of the unelected and unaccountable Libertas.

    My experience from the canvass shows that many people had initially believed the Libertas lies, however when engaged with most went yes. This is clearly shown in the tally from areas that were canvassed


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    [Deleted User]
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    skearon wrote: »
    My experience from the canvass shows that many people had initially believed the Libertas lies, however when engaged with most went yes. This is clearly shown in the tally from areas that were canvassed
    Your canvass should have started last year sometime though.I sincerely hope that message gets through to your boss Mr Roche.
    Complacency versus organisation delivered you a defeat in my opinion and with it comes all the proclamations that the no vote means something that it mightn't.

    I have met an incredible amount of people at this stage who voted no because they didn't know.


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