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Hmmmm... Physics Paper, how was it for you?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    Hm, I got 14 pions... to the people who got 7, are you certain you took into account that both protons had kinetic energy of one gigajoule (or whatever it was)?
    That or I did it totally wrong...

    Also, when it said about the range of the fundamental forces.. did you need exact numbers? I'd never learned them.. I mean, I knew infinite for two of them, but for the other two I just said "tiny: within the nucleus" or whatever...

    Anyway, finished in 1.5 hours so I did the rest of the questions. Whoever corrects my paper will probably hate me. Used up almost the entire answerbook, and three pages of graph paper. Learned after my mocks fiasco. Didn't use graph paper, got half marks on all my graphs.

    I was really happy about the general lack of demonstration experiments, I hate those. The one that came up (12 part d) I hadn't done, so I made it up... but I think I have enough other questions to cover me.

    Question 5 was unusually difficult, I felt. That is, normally it's laughably easy and this time it was a little tricky. For the fluorescent bulb thing I just said because filament bulbs waste a lot of energy through heat... I think fluorescent bulbs get hot too so I wasn't too sure... And that damn pressure one, I was confused by the Pascals and thought it might be necessary to convert back to metres squared, so I ran away crying. Metaphorically.

    Average emf induced, off the top of my head, was 2 volts.

    And yeah got 15 sunrises.

    For deflecting a beam of electrons, whoever asked, I just said an electric or magnetic field... I guess a nucleus could technically too...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    Stin wrote: »
    i got 2V

    I'm actually gonna join the 2V camp. Was getting confused with the flux.

    The average emf is just BA/t right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 acidstorm


    Hm, I got 14 pions... to the people who got 7, are you certain you took into account that both protons had kinetic energy of one gigajoule (or whatever it was)?


    For deflecting a beam of electrons, whoever asked, I just said an electric or magnetic field... I guess a nucleus could technically too...

    The 1GeV had to go into the production of the 3 pions and their combined K.E because you had 2 protons being released again at the product side. so the 2 proton masses cancel on both sides

    Electrons?? Yup exactly what I said


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    Hm, I got 14 pions... to the people who got 7, are you certain you took into account that both protons had kinetic energy of one gigajoule (or whatever it was)?
    That or I did it totally wrong...

    I got 14 too, really hope it's right...
    Also, when it said about the range of the fundamental forces.. did you need exact numbers? I'd never learned them.. I mean, I knew infinite for two of them, but for the other two I just said "tiny: within the nucleus" or whatever...

    Same, I just said very short and infinite. :/


  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Adventure


    For 5(b) anyone else get 20,000(!!:eek:) pa?

    and for Q8


    (i)0.01 sec
    (ii)0.02 Wb
    (iii)2 v
    ??????????????


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    Ya 14 pions would be right so. I knew I'd make that mistake of only taking one proton!
    A nucleus technically creates an electric field so its the same really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭muffinman


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Considering I was just praying for a pass, I think I got about 60% which of course I'm delighted with.

    More or less same here.. Wasn't expecting better than a D2.. I think I may have scraped a C :o But either way it's not going to even come close to having to count for my point (I hope :cool: ) I've never ever put in any effort with physics.. Just hate it, so a C would be a miracle lol

    And yeah got 15 sunrises.

    Nah I'm convinced it's one :p .. I guessed.. And then quickly left that question and did no.12 instead.. What was the answer to the Doppler question anyone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭pocket aces


    tabouli wrote: »
    I got 14 pions. :/

    same :D

    i thought it was a good paper- the experiment q.s were different (q.1 was unexpected), but i thought the electricity q.s were easy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    muffinman wrote: »
    Nah I'm convinced it's one :p .. I guessed.. And then quickly left that question and did no.12 instead.. What was the answer to the Doppler question anyone?

    I got 1308Hz I think. So 212Hz difference.


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    211.65 Hz lower is what I got, thought the wording on that question was a bit confusing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Slashman X


    muffinman wrote: »
    More or less same here.. Wasn't expecting better than a D2.. I think I may have scraped a C :o But either way it's not going to even come close to having to count for my point (I hope :cool: ) I've never ever put in any effort with physics.. Just hate it, so a C would be a miracle lol




    Nah I'm convinced it's one :p .. I guessed.. And then quickly left that question and did no.12 instead.. What was the answer to the Doppler question anyone?
    I got something like 208.33333333333333333333333333333333 and so on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Gangsta


    Was it easier/harder than last year? Haven't seen the paper myself...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    For Q11, where it asks why the quantum yoke was revolutionary... can you just pull your answer from the text?


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    That's pretty much what I did, only I stuck in some stuff about photons...energy...blah


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    acidstorm wrote: »
    The 1GeV had to go into the production of the 3 pions and their combined K.E because you had 2 protons being released again at the product side. so the 2 proton masses cancel on both sides
    My point was that it wasn't 1GeV, it was 2GeV. Because you have 2 protons with 1GeV of kinetic energy each.
    tabouli wrote: »
    211.65 Hz lower is what I got, thought the wording on that question was a bit confusing.
    Aye I got something like that too. It was worded a bit strangely, I just tried to make it abundantly clear what I was doing in case they wanted some other answer. (Like what the new frequency was...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 m-i-t-s-u-k-o


    Oh Physics!
    I love you! I really do but why oh why did you have to do that to me?!

    I mean come on!
    Explain in terms of electron movement why light is emitted when a metal is heated!!??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 acidstorm


    My point was that it wasn't 1GeV, it was 2GeV. Because you have 2 protons with 1GeV of kinetic energy each.


    Yup I see it now. Thanks anyways, I think I did an extra one lol

    Monochromatic light wavelength any1??


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭muffinman


    I got 1308Hz I think. So 212Hz difference.
    tabouli wrote: »
    211.65 Hz lower is what I got, thought the wording on that question was a bit confusing.

    Yay I got 211.65Hz as well.. Totally threw me at first.. Dunno why must have been the wording.. 28 marks there methinks


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Slashman X



    Monochromatic light wavelength any1??
    I got 8.08 x 10^-5 or something cosúil le sin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    acidstorm wrote: »
    Yup I see it now. Thanks anyways, I think I did an extra one lol

    Monochromatic light wavelength any1??

    583/584nm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 81 ✭✭Adventure


    For acceleration due to gravity in the simple pendelum exp, anyone

    get 10.24 m/s^2:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 acidstorm


    Oh Yeah! Did Anyone do the toaster question?? What was the heat energy generated?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 acidstorm


    Adventure wrote: »
    For acceleration due to gravity in the simple pendelum exp, anyone

    get 10.24 m/s^2:confused:

    9.54m/s^2 :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    For wavelength I got 5.88 X 10^-7


  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭tabouli


    acidstorm wrote: »
    9.54m/s^2 :confused:

    9.53 m/s^2 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭muffinman


    acidstorm wrote: »
    Oh Yeah! Did Anyone do the toaster question?? What was the heat energy generated?

    Don't have the paper but I think it was as simple as (120)(Wattage)(.96) but I'm not sure..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Cokehead Mother


    acidstorm wrote: »
    9.54m/s^2 :confused:

    Got about the same - 9.56.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41 acidstorm


    muffinman wrote: »
    Don't have the paper but I think it was as simple as (120)(Wattage)(.96) but I'm not sure..
    Awesome Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭Slashman X


    g- 9.8696 m/s :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    There were so many mistakes on the paper! My supervisor went around to each of us telling us what to cross out.


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