yorkies

jenjo23

peasant wrote: »

to bring this thread back a bit closer to topic, here are a few quotes:


Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_dog



The sad thruth about "teacup dogs" http://www.barkrescue.net/teacup.htm


doublecreekkennel.com http://www.doublecreekkennel.com/teacups.html


food for thought ....

Closer to topic? The topic was basically..."Who Loves Yorkies...I do!!"

Kerrygold turned it into a debate about terms used to describe the breed.........If you want to bring it back closer to topic just give us your opinion on yorkies....cute or not??

shinners007

Closer to topic? The topic was basically..."Who Loves Yorkies...I do!!"

Kerrygold turned it into a debate about terms used to describe the breed.........If you want to bring it back closer to topic just give us your opinion on yorkies....cute or not??

very well said indeed

peasant

jenjo23 wrote: »

Closer to topic? The topic was basically..."Who Loves Yorkies...I do!!"

Kerrygold turned it into a debate about terms used to describe the breed.........If you want to bring it back closer to topic just give us your opinion on yorkies....cute or not??

I like Yorkies, they're feisty little feckers that punch well above their weight.

Personally I wouldn't want one though, as I prefer my dogs that bit larger.

Cute or not however is not the question. All dogs are cute at least at some stage of their lives.

Cute is the Yorkies' downfall. Traditionally they were proper terriers with the job of hunting vermin. These days they spend their lives washed and blowdried with ribbons in their hair and silly clothes tucked away in handbags ...and being bred for "teacup" size.

Yes, I like Yorkies, but I absolutely detest what's being done to them.

Generally speaking, of course and not directed at anyone here personally.

arybvtcw0eolkf

peasant wrote: »

Cute is the Yorkies' downfall. Traditionally they were proper terriers with the job of hunting vermin. These days they spend their lives washed and blowdried with ribbons in their hair and silly clothes tucked away in handbags ...and being bred for "teacup" size.

Yes, I like Yorkies, but I absolutely detest what's being done to them.

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I actually seen this twice recently, Yorkies being carried in handbags.

Last week it was a girl in Omni Park S.C. and before that another young 'un in PJ's and her Yorkie in a bag in Northside S.C. (both Dublin).

Stupidest looking thing I've seen done to a dog ever.

What happens when those same Yorkies are not in fashion next year?.

kerrysgold

Agreed. They are being treated like the latest fashion accessory, same for Chihuahua's etc. It's a wonder they aren't being sold in Topshop or something! Poor little things must get sick of being treated like something from a Barbie playset instead of a dog.

jenjo23

I nearly died when I was queuing one day for a zumo and a girl stood next to me with a Chi in her bag!! I was like WTF I thought that only happened on TV!!

Wonder would they get any excercise at all if they are being carried around in a bag all day!!

kerrysgold

Also kerrysgold a question for you. Do you think there is any reputable breeders in Ireland? ANd what makes them reputable - and please omit "show standard" from it if you could.

I'm sure there are, showdogs, guide dogs, sporting dogs (e.g. agility) are all quality types of dogs (generally) who will produce good quality pups that there will be a demand for. As long as the dogs are health tested, good quality and have proven themselves and are being bred by a person who is extremely knowledgeable about breeding, in it to improve the breed etc and not for the money, i.e. willing to spend money on vaxing, worming etc. the pups, put time into their early socializing etc. (preferably being raised in a home environment) then yes, have only reputable breeders would be better than having a few reputable breeders and the majority being backyard breeders putting a dog for stud or getting a bitch bred just because they happen to be a "purebred" when they haven't got a clue about dogs/breeding and only want max. profit from the pups. or in the case of the OP, using false terms. (usually "breeders" use the terms teacup etc. to attract more buyers to this extra small dog :rolleyes:)

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Mairt wrote: »

I actually seen this twice recently, Yorkies being carried in handbags.

Last week it was a girl in Omni Park S.C. and before that another young 'un in PJ's and her Yorkie in a bag in Northside S.C. (both Dublin).

Stupidest looking thing I've seen done to a dog ever.

What happens when those same Yorkies are not in fashion next year?.

I agree Mairt. We have 2 yorkies at home (well, actually 1 Yorkie cross and 1 silky haired Australian Terrier). People forget that just because they're so small they're still dogs.

We do however have 1 or 2 items of clothing etc for them ... eg. coats for the winter, this is for practical reasons, not for fashion - they actually get fairly cold because of their thin hair, and we also keep their hair cut tight as they are in the house a lot.

But they are still dogs, no matter how small, and should be treated as dogs, not babies.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Dimitri Fancy Rifleman wrote: »

We do however have 1 or 2 items of clothing etc for them ... eg. coats for the winter, this is for practical reasons, not for fashion - they actually get fairly cold because of their thin hair, and we also keep their hair cut tight as they are in the house a lot.

I have two coats for my Staff as Portmarnock beach gets pretty baltic in winter!.

But I'll be damned if I'll carry him around in my backpack

bigpinkelephant

kerrysgold wrote: »

I'm sure there are, showdogs, guide dogs, sporting dogs (e.g. agility) are all quality types of dogs (generally)

Hang on now, the Guide Dogs for the Blind breed a LOT of crossbreds. You have stated earlier that unless a dog is purebred and show standard you don't consider them worth being born.

So would you consider the Guide Dogs for the Blind good breeders or not?
Or does it depend on whether it suits you at the time?

kerrysgold

Guide/helper dogs obviously only go to certain homes so I think they are an exception since they aren't chucking out puppies to anybody. they aren't adding to the population in the way dogs bred for pets are, since a blind/disabled person wouldn't be adopting a "normal" dog anyway.

mousey2

kerrysgold wrote: »

Guide/helper dogs obviously only go to certain homes so I think they are an exception since they aren't chucking out puppies to anybody. they aren't adding to the population in the way dogs bred for pets are, since a blind/disabled person wouldn't be adopting a "normal" dog anyway.

cop on

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mousey2 wrote: »

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kerrysgold

heh, you can tell me to cop on when you can type out a sentance....oh, and it must make sense.

shinners007

I'm sure there are, showdogs, guide dogs, sporting dogs (e.g. agility) are all quality types of dogs (generally) who will produce good quality pups that there will be a demand for. As long as the dogs are health tested, good quality and have proven themselves and are being bred by a person who is extremely knowledgeable about breeding, in it to improve the breed etc and not for the money, i.e. willing to spend money on vaxing, worming etc. the pups, put time into their early socializing etc. (preferably being raised in a home environment) then yes, have only reputable breeders would be better than having a few reputable breeders and the majority being backyard breeders putting a dog for stud or getting a bitch bred just because they happen to be a "purebred" when they haven't got a clue about dogs/breeding and only want max. profit from the pups. or in the case of the OP, using false terms. (usually "breeders" use the terms teacup etc. to attract more buyers to this extra small dog )

Once again a showdog will not neccessarily produce healthy pups as ive pointed out so many times in this thread, however i do agree with the rest of the above post. A reputable breeder should not gain large profits from breeding but at times be at loss and barely break even fiancially that is if they had the dogs tested, health checked, vaccined, microhipped etc. I do believe that the kennel clubs should make it mandatory for these tests prior to breeding and ive stated this before. Another problem is that not all vets have the equipment to carry out these expensive tests eg heart testing which makes it harder to accomplish, BUT it can be done if the breeder researches and is willing to be at a loss before even beginning breeding. Also it is all these "backyard breeders" and puppy farms selling loads of different breeds, that are creating this negative attitude towards all breeders in general and it isn't very nice or fair on those who have worked so hard on improving particular breeds, health testing etc and their are those few reputable breeders out their. And in fairness i have came across a good few reputable breeders, more so in the last two years so it is improving - however as long as people continue to buy want pure breds but dont ask to see proof that their teated health checked etc then the situation wont improve all that much and back yard breeders and puppy farms will still breed and breed gaining profits.

It is not only the breeders responsibility to ensure it is done correctly ie testing, vet checks etc.. but also the buyers to seek proof of such things as after all it is the buyer who creates the demand and therefore some responsibility must be on them also ie getting a pup check by their own vet, returning the pet to breeder if circumstances change, signing contarcts etc. If a buyer is willing to spend X amount of money on a breed then they should have the breed researched indepthly before buying so that they know what to look out for and what questions to ask a breeder and for example seeing the parents of the pups, the conditions teir being kept in etc.. All of this is part of breeding also yet it is often forgotten about yet it has such an impact on the young puppies life as well as the sire/dam and it tells the buyer alot about the breeder also.

shinners007

We do however have 1 or 2 items of clothing etc for them ... eg. coats for the winter, this is for practical reasons, not for fashion - they actually get fairly cold because of their thin hair, and we also keep their hair cut tight as they are in the house a lot.

I have a coat and jumper for my yorkie also in the winter months during the cold weather to keep her warm. I dont see a problem with that. Big difference in that and carrying them around as a fashion accessory. I once saw a chihuaha in a girls hand bag in penneys in limerick and i was shocked and disgusted by it, the girl basically had the zip of the handbag half closed so that the little doggy wouldnt jump out and what made it worse was she was running around bumping off people as if there was nothing but the usual items in a handbag:mad::mad:

shinners007

That is great aimee, it really is, however i dont believe this forum or thread should be used as a method for selling pups or advocating a person as a reputable breeder based on a telephone call.

Have you seen the pups, have the parents been tested before breeding etc.. could go on forever. Bottle feeding pups is part of the process of breeding as are alot of other issues, c-sections, the delievery itself, weaning pups, socialising them, vaccines, microchipping etc...

And by the way and not intended towards the OP, you'd be surprised how many backyard breeders would spend ages on the phone "selling" you a breed - thats why visual inspection and evidence of health testing is far more important when buying any breed.

Again not intended towards the Op in anyway - if your happy enough with your decision then congrads and would love to see pics when you get your puppy!!

Aimee_gleeson

shinners007 wrote: »

That is great aimee, it really is, however i dont believe this forum or thread should be used as a method for selling pups or advocating a person as a reputable breeder based on a telephone call.

She didn't mention in this thread or forum at all that pups were for sale, i just sent her a PM on the off chance because me and my partner were looking for a pup. My mam already has 3 (small breed) and we have fallen in love with them of course I never said she was a reputable breeding i said she 'comes across' as a genuine breeder.

shinners007 wrote: »

Have you seen the pups

Not as of yet but hopefully will be going to visit her this weekend to see both the pups and their parents. I asked all this while on the phone cause i know how important anything you mentioned is while looking into buying a pup and finding the right breeder.

shinners007 wrote: »

And by the way and not intended towards the OP, you'd be surprised how many backyard breeders would spend ages on the phone "selling" you a breed - thats why visual inspection and evidence of health testing is far more important when buying any breed.

Ok i agree with you here on that, but as of now till i meet the OP in person and see the pups, vet check proof and papers i am going to give her the benefit of the doubt. Not going to judge.

shinners007 wrote: »

Again not intended towards the Op in anyway - if your happy enough with your decision then congrads and would love to see pics when you get your puppy!!

Thanks, and we'll see how things go. Im in contact with other breeders aswell expecting pups and one with a litter so im not jumping into it at all

Thanks for the reply though!

mousey2

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i dont no whats up with some of the people on this i posted pictures of my dogs and still you are going on and on and on take a break heres a photo of gypsie and pinky both 11 weeks old go on give it a good shot yeas mite as well

mousey2

kerrysgold wrote: »

heh, you can tell me to cop on when you can type out a sentance....oh, and it must make sense.

yea u make a lot of it dont yea

shinners007

Thats great news aimee, and i wasnt having a go at you or the op. I love yorkies too and have one myself.

By the way mousey the pictures are lovely but a few pics dont mean that there pups would be healthy etc thats all im saying. Im not accusing you of anything or suggesting that you dogs are unhealthy im merely stating that adult dogs of ANY breed should be health tested before breeding, but thats just my opinion.

Thanks, and we'll see how things go. Im in contact with other breeders aswell expecting pups and one with a litter so im not jumping into it at all

thats good amiee was only as a breeder myself pointing out a few handy things to look out for when buying a pup. You hear stories of so many people sending on deposits to book pups without even seen the set up/ the pups or parents themselves, and then if they dont like what they see certain breeders will keep the deposit and horrible things like that!!

I hope you find a lovely little puppy regardless.

And to mousey i dont know you at all nor would i ever judge you as been either reputable/un reputable and apologies if you felt i was having a go at you it certainly wasnt my intention.

Aimee_gleeson

shinners007 wrote: »

Thats great news aimee, and i wasnt having a go at you or the op. I love yorkies too and have one myself.

Don't worry about it, wasn't looking at it as if you were up on my back about it

shinners007 wrote: »

Thats good amiee was only as a breeder myself pointing out a few handy things to look out for when buying a pup. You hear stories of so many people sending on deposits to book pups without even seen the set up/ the pups or parents themselves, and then if they dont like what they see certain breeders will keep the deposit and horrible things like that!!

Thanks again for that, and i have also heard some stories about what happened some people. Id really want to have heard glowing reports and seen previous litters of the sire and dame, health check etc etc before i even thought once of putting a deposit on a puppy.

I'll throw up some pics of my mams lil ones seeing it is a thread yorkies after all

shinners007

ya please do!!

Here's a picture of my girl Lilo

mousey2

shinners007 wrote: »

ya please do!!

Here's a picture of my girl Lilo

hey lilo is a pretty little thing....

mousey2

shinners007 wrote: »

Thats great news aimee, and i wasnt having a go at you or the op. I love yorkies too and have one myself.

By the way mousey the pictures are lovely but a few pics dont mean that there pups would be healthy etc thats all im saying. Im not accusing you of anything or suggesting that you dogs are unhealthy im merely stating that adult dogs of ANY breed should be health tested before breeding, but thats just my opinion.



thats good amiee was only as a breeder myself pointing out a few handy things to look out for when buying a pup. You hear stories of so many people sending on deposits to book pups without even seen the set up/ the pups or parents themselves, and then if they dont like what they see certain breeders will keep the deposit and horrible things like that!!

I hope you find a lovely little puppy regardless.

And to mousey i dont know you at all nor would i ever judge you as been either reputable/un reputable and apologies if you felt i was having a go at you it certainly wasnt my intention.

ur ok and all my puppys are helth checked and there needles given by a vet there all micro chipped and got there check ups and got the all clear from my vet and there regastered and all people should take there time choosing a puppy and im in no rush to home mine any way and i dont just sell to any 1 ....i never advertised my puppys here and had no intention of .