hulk hogan

carlos30

as a wrestling fan for years epecially the 80s and late 90s, can anbody tell me why that swine hulk hogan never bothered to come over to ireland

to my understanding he never showed any interest about his irish fans throughout his career , my friend met him in the states and he got the impression that hogan could not have gave a toss about ireland or its fans

he is a big uk fan and its a shame because i was really a big fan and would of defo went to see him he just to sign a book or something

just wondering other people thoughts

cheers karlos

callaway92

Havent you read the other thread about him!!:eek:

Dancor

Hogan is the devil these days, poor man cant do anything right.

carlos30 wrote: »

my friend met him in the states and he got the impression that hogan could not have gave a toss about ireland or its fans

Did he expect him to do a dance when he found out he was Irish or something?

flahavaj

Maybe CPW Northside will book him.

EdK

IWW should book Harley Race i was reading Bret Hart's book and apparently he defended the NWA title on gym mats when the ring didnt show up haha

As for Hogan i'd say American Gladiators ratings are down over his and his families antics and Celebrity Wrestling will suck more than Missy Hyatt

Fozzy

Was there ever an opportunity for him to come over? Like was he working for WWE or WCW when they did shows in Ireland? If not then you can hardly blame him

Mossy Monk

I think he is a creep.

CHD

who cares?!

rovert

carlos30 wrote: »

as a wrestling fan for years epecially the 80s and late 90s, can anbody tell me why that swine hulk hogan never bothered to come over to ireland

He was over here at least twice in the early 90s

Fozzy

rovert wrote: »

He was over here at least twice in the early 90s

Are you sure? He wasn't on any of the WCW shows in Ireland as far as I know and I don't remember the WWF doing any shows over here. Or was he just on holiday?

rovert

Fozzy wrote: »

I don't remember the WWF doing any shows over here.

Think harder

callaway92

1993/1994 they were here werent they??WWF that is

Fozzy

callaway92 wrote: »

1993/1994 they were here werent they??WWF that is

Yeah. Though Hogan wasn't on the one show I can find details about

slicus ricus

rovert wrote: »

He was over here at least twice in the early 90s

Details please? Do you actually know of a time when he was over here or are you just talking through your arse?

I was at most of the shows in Dublin in the early 90s (WWE & WCW) when i was a kid and i don't remember Hogan being at any of them.

Bazuki

Same here, I was at most of the early 90s WWF shows and have no recolection of Hogan

TOPDAWG

I THINK THIS IS PROOF ENOUGH THAT HE WAS IN IRELAND :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Cactus Col

TOPDAWG wrote: »

I THINK THIS IS PROOF ENOUGH THAT HE WAS IN IRELAND :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

wow ..... not only was he in ireland but he hooked up with Del and Rodney Trotter!

mehfesto2

TOPDAWG wrote: »

I THINK THIS IS PROOF ENOUGH THAT HE WAS IN IRELAND :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

You sure that's him?
Hmmmm.... I have my doubts...

EdK

Ofcourse its him he's even got the official Hulk t-shirt

mehfesto2

Okay, I'll take your word for it.

ShawnRaven

rovert wrote: »

He was over here at least twice in the early 90s

He was never here rovert. WWE made it to the point in 1991 and 1993 for the respective UK and European Rampage tours, they did the UK rampage tour in 1991 when Hogan was working shows with Slaughter, In Dublin, Hogan wasn't on the card, the main event was Davey Boy vs DiBiase during that tour. This was the infamous show where all the faces went over

They did the Point in April or May 1991 firstly.

They did the Point again in April 1993, Hogan was not on the card, despite being the titleholder.

They did the Point again in 1994 and 1995, Hogan was no longer with the company by this point, after 1995, WWE would not return to Dublin until 2004.

Now if you're counting up north, that might be another story.
VR!

ShawnRaven

Before you ask for proof btw

WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 27, 1991
1st ever show in Ireland
The Warlord pinned Jimmy Snuka
Jim Neidhart pinned the Barbarian
Jake Roberts pinned the Berzerker
Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty (w/ Andre the Giant) defeated the Orient Express when Shawn Michaels pinned Tanaka
Greg Valentine defeated the Brooklyn Brawler via submission with the figure-4
Kerry Von Erich pinned Haku
Roddy Piper defeated Earthquake via count-out after both men began brawling on the floor
Davey Boy Smith pinned Ted Dibiase

WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 21, 1993 (4,000)
Typhoon defeated Damien Demento
Kamala defeated Kimchee
Doink the Clown (Borne) defeated Crush via count-out
Yokozuna defeated Jim Duggan
WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Bob Backlund
The Nasty Boys fought the Headshrinkers to a double disqualification
Mr. Perfect defeated Lex Luger

VR!

rovert

validreasoning! wrote: »

He was never here rovert. WWE made it to the point in 1991 and 1993 for the respective UK and European Rampage tours, they did the UK rampage tour in 1991 when Hogan was working shows with Slaughter, In Dublin, Hogan wasn't on the card, the main event was Davey Boy vs DiBiase during that tour. This was the infamous show where all the faces went over

They did the Point in April or May 1991 firstly.

They did the Point again in April 1993, Hogan was not on the card, despite being the titleholder. The main event for it was Bret Hart vs Bam Bam Bigelow.

They did the Point again in 1994 and 1995, Hogan was no longer with the company by this point, after 1995, WWE would not return to Dublin until 2004.

Now if you're counting up north, that might be another story.
VR!

Threres a reason why I stopped replying. It is not my fault Dublin is a C town, brother.

It is kind of weird as Hogan was initially supposed to OUR ethnic Champion and all.

ShawnRaven

rovert wrote: »

Threres a reason why I stopped replying. It is not my fault Dublin is a C town, brother.

It is kind of weird as Hogan was initially supposed to OUR ethnic Champion and all.

Nope, it's also not your fault he didn't do Belfast either during those years... BROTHER!
VR!

AlphaMale 3OO

validreasoning! wrote: »

Before you ask for proof btw

WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 27, 1991
1st ever show in Ireland
The Warlord pinned Jimmy Snuka
Jim Neidhart pinned the Barbarian
Jake Roberts pinned the Berzerker
Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty (w/ Andre the Giant) defeated the Orient Express when Shawn Michaels pinned Tanaka
Greg Valentine defeated the Brooklyn Brawler via submission with the figure-4
Kerry Von Erich pinned Haku
Roddy Piper defeated Earthquake via count-out after both men began brawling on the floor
Davey Boy Smith pinned Ted Dibiase

WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 21, 1993 (4,000)
Typhoon defeated Damien Demento
Kamala defeated Kimchee
Doink the Clown (Borne) defeated Crush via count-out
Yokozuna defeated Jim Duggan
WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Bob Backlund
The Nasty Boys fought the Headshrinkers to a double disqualification
Mr. Perfect defeated Lex Luger

VR!

I'm sure they did a show in 1992 as well. I was at The Point and though I was only young and can't remember much, I do remember the main event being Taker vs. Sid and the Bushwhackers were also there as well as the Brooklyn Brawler. Thats all I can remember. Piper was supposed to be but they anounced at the beginning he wouldn't be making it. Hogan was nowhere insight although he may have quit by then (around WM VIII).

Harpy

forbesii wrote: »

I'm sure they did a show in 1992 as well. I was at The Point and though I was only young and can't remember much, I do remember the main event being Taker vs. Sid and the Bushwhackers were also there as well as the Brooklyn Brawler. Thats all I can remember. Piper was supposed to be but they anounced at the beginning he wouldn't be making it. Hogan was nowhere insight although he may have quit by then (around WM VIII).

phew im not going crazy, i was also very young when i went to wrestling in the point and im sure i can remember undertaker being there.. maybe british bulldog aswell(although i could be dreaming that cause i use to love him)

ShawnRaven

I thought i remembered a show from 1992 as well, but i could find nothing for it. I knew they did the European Rampage tour after Wrestlemania VIII. I think it was either April or May as i remember a mate of mine having a pair of Bret Hart shades he bought at the event. The pink ones weren't around in Spring 1991, but they were by Spring 92.

If i recall correctly, there was a Davey Boy interview in the Evening Herald that week too.
VR!

TOPDAWG

I was at a show a week after WM9, Hogan was champ after this but wasnt on the card.

the card had
Virgil, Greg the hammer valentine, El Matador Tito Santana, Doink i cant rememeber who they fought but matches i do remember are

Money Inc vs Steiners tag title match, Steiner's won by countout.
Taker Vs Yokozuna , Taker won by Dq
and the main event

Bret Hart Vs Bam Bam Bigelow, Bret winning with a victory roll from Bogelow's shoulders, a match that they performed move for move when Bret won the King of the Ring final against bigelow soon after.

I remember how kay fabe it was even before the show, we were stood outside queueing to get in when two buses pulled in, one with all the heels (and yokozuna getting spotted and boo'ed before flipping the bird at everyone, i still remember me dad laughing his ass off ) and the the babyface bus pulling up soon after with Bret mad waving out. It was class. Haha.

Simpler times too when i was just happy to see WWF live and couldnt give a ****e about quality of the matches or who was hated/loved, who was using their pull backstage etc etc.

HBK

validreasoning! wrote: »

Before you ask for proof btw



WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 21, 1993 (4,000)
Typhoon defeated Damien Demento
Kamala defeated Kimchee
Doink the Clown (Borne) defeated Crush via count-out
Yokozuna defeated Jim Duggan
WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels pinned Bob Backlund
The Nasty Boys fought the Headshrinkers to a double disqualification
Mr. Perfect defeated Lex Luger

VR!

I could of sworn this was the show I was at..i must check my ticket for the date when I get home, but the main event was Bret vs Bigalow, on the card was Virgil,bushwackers,doink ,IRS & undertaker is about all I remmember.Did they run 2 shows in 93?

ShawnRaven

HBK wrote: »

I could of sworn this was the show I was at..i must check my ticket for the date when I get home, but the main event was Bret vs Bigalow, on the card was Virgil,bushwackers,doink ,IRS & undertaker is about all I remmember.Did they run 2 shows in 93?

I don't believe they ran two shows in 93. The Point can hold about 6500 with the ring in the middle, so 4000 wouldn't be a sell out, so it wouldn't warrant a second show.

That was a copy and paste job from another site btw, and i can't see HBK v Hennig being a main event, even for a c list show in 1993. So it may have been missed out. Bret v Bam Bam headlined a lot of European shows that year, including the one in the Kings Hall in Belfast during that same tour.

VR!

rossie1977

off topic i know but speaking of the point anyone have an idea of its opening date?? i took a trip up there last sunday to see how work was progressing and have to say from the outside i am mighty impressed from what i could see (and it wasn't alot given the skyscraper going up in the old car park and the wooden hoardings blocking off the east link bridge view) they have increased the height of the building a fair bit, starting to look like a proper arena at last, not a warehouse

HBK

1993: WCW held its first ever show in New York City, attracting 3,500 fans to the Paramount at Madison Square Garden. Sting beat World Champion Big Van Vader via disqualification and NWA World Champion Barry Windham beat Ricky Steamboat in the two top matches. The undercard featured Chris Benoit fighting Ron Simmons to a double count-out, Maxx Payne over Steve Regal, Rick Rude over Cactus Jack, and Tag Team Champions the Hollywood Blondes over 2 Cold Scorpio & Marcus Bagwell. On the same day, the WWF held three shows overseas – Mr. Perfect beat Lex Luger in the main event in Aberdeen, Scotland and Newcastle, England while Bret Hart beat Bam Bam Bigelow in the main event in Brussels, Belgium.


that might explain it...the english shows had luger/perfect, while we got the european show with bret/ bam bam


{Edit}This is the show we got:
WWF @ Belfast, Northern Ireland - Kings Hall - April 20, 1993 - the listing for the point show on 21st is incorrect,both shows were done by the one crew:

Virgil defeated Terry Taylor
Doink the Clown (Keirn) defeated Tito Santana
Rick & Scott Steiner defeated WWF Tag Team Champions Ted Dibiase & IRS via disqualification
The Bushwhackers defeated the Beverly Brothers
Tatanka defeated Papa Shango
The Undertaker defeated Giant Gonzalez via disqualification( i do recall this being yoko)
Bret Hart defeated Bam Bam Bigelow

RebelRockChick

rossie1977 wrote: »

off topic i know but speaking of the point anyone have an idea of its opening date?? i took a trip up there last sunday to see how work was progressing and have to say from the outside i am mighty impressed from what i could see (and it wasn't alot given the skyscraper going up in the old car park and the wooden hoardings blocking off the east link bridge view) they have increased the height of the building a fair bit, starting to look like a proper arena at last, not a warehouse

Re-opening late 2008 according to the website.

orestes

validreasoning! wrote: »

Before you ask for proof btw

WWF @ Dublin, Ireland - Point Depot - April 27, 1991
1st ever show in Ireland
The Warlord pinned Jimmy Snuka
Jim Neidhart pinned the Barbarian
Jake Roberts pinned the Berzerker
Shawn Michaels & Marty Jannetty (w/ Andre the Giant) defeated the Orient Express when Shawn Michaels pinned Tanaka
Greg Valentine defeated the Brooklyn Brawler via submission with the figure-4
Kerry Von Erich pinned Haku
Roddy Piper defeated Earthquake via count-out after both men began brawling on the floor
Davey Boy Smith pinned Ted Dibiase

I was at that show when I was a nipper, and I still have the newspaper clipping to prove it! The Herald published a picture of me sitting on my mammys knee eating smarties at the event with their review

rossie1977

RebelRockChick wrote: »

Re-opening late 2008 according to the website.

i think that late 2008 opening they claim is very ambitious, looked to be at least a years work to be done from looking at the state of the site

Roar

TOPDAWG wrote: »

I THINK THIS IS PROOF ENOUGH THAT HE WAS IN IRELAND :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

fat man in hulk hogan costume? sounds about right to me..

AlphaMale 3OO

Back on topic, I met Hogan when I was a kid and he was kind of a dick for a while until he agreed to give us a photo (he was near us on the beach in Florida). He was with Beefcake who was actually cool. And even at that young age, he did seem oblivious to the fact Ireland even existed so I'd have to agree with the OP.

grames_bond

rossie1977 wrote: »

off topic i know but speaking of the point anyone have an idea of its opening date?? i took a trip up there last sunday to see how work was progressing and have to say from the outside i am mighty impressed from what i could see (and it wasn't alot given the skyscraper going up in the old car park and the wooden hoardings blocking off the east link bridge view) they have increased the height of the building a fair bit, starting to look like a proper arena at last, not a warehouse

rossie1977 wrote: »

i think that late 2008 opening they claim is very ambitious, looked to be at least a years work to be done from looking at the state of the site

i used to work in the poitn and the longer its closed the more money they lose believ me, they have already gutted it totally, it is completely on track for reopening in november!

wont be set up for wrestling tho!

wezzopalooza

I could swear that at least one of those WWF shows were held in the RDS, I think the one with Bret/Bam Bam definitely was...........And yes Hulk Hogan was definitely in Ireland in the early 90's... Not on a show mind, my mum used to work in Crumlin childrens hospital and remembers him visiting children there, most likely due to the make a wish foundation.....They had a picture of it up there next to other famous faces- not sure if it's still there tho...

Fozzy

grames_bond wrote: »

wont be set up for wrestling tho!

Ever do you mean? That would surprise me. The wrestling shows are always sell-outs and the boxing matches always do well too. MMA shows could do great in the future. They all have the same arena set-up

ShawnRaven

wezzopalooza wrote: »

I could swear that at least one of those WWF shows were held in the RDS, I think the one with Bret/Bam Bam definitely was...........

Nope, that was definitely The Point. The attendance was dwindling year after the year. No way would it have gotten the RDS back then. It's popularity had dwindled somewhat from the 80s.

And yes Hulk Hogan was definitely in Ireland in the early 90's... Not on a show mind, my mum used to work in Crumlin childrens hospital and remembers him visiting children there, most likely due to the make a wish foundation.....They had a picture of it up there next to other famous faces- not sure if it's still there tho...

He definitely didn't wrestle a show in Ireland. If it was due to MAW, that would have been a completely different issue.

VR!

grames_bond

grames_bond wrote: »

wont be set up for wrestling tho!

More information on what you mean please?



I reckon Hogan could pull a crowd to the RDS. WWE Summer Bash - Part II - With Hogan instead of Austin. :cool:

grames_bond

Fozzy wrote: »

Ever do you mean? That would surprise me. The wrestling shows are always sell-outs and the boxing matches always do well too. MMA shows could do great in the future. They all have the same arena set-up

Deleted User wrote: »

More information on what you mean please?

the new point is basically gonna be like a big version of the olympia! 14,500 capacity but 3 floors with seats semi circular rap around type thing!

pretend you are in the point now standing were the ring was always set up, lookin towards the stage, the new stage will be over to teh right. if they put the ring in the center like they have to then a huge number of the crowd wouldnt be able to see it, infact pretty much the second 2 floors wouldnt be able to! the only way to do it would be to put the ring where the stage goes which means no entrance ramp and fans only on 3 sides but very far away, just wouldnt be feasable!

Vince135792003

pretend you are in the point now standing were the ring was always set up, lookin towards the stage, the new stage will be over to teh right. if they put the ring in the center like they have to then a huge number of the crowd wouldnt be able to see it, infact pretty much the second 2 floors wouldnt be able to! the only way to do it would be to put the ring where the stage goes which means no entrance ramp and fans only on 3 sides but very far away, just wouldnt be feasable!

I haven't seen the plans for the new Point. However, the designers of it are HOKSVE who have alot of experience and I would imagine the design will lend itself to at least a degree of flexibility.

Well its not like you could see what was happening anyway

I mean, unless you got ringside and where within the first 6 or 7 rows, you had a lot to contend with. I felt sorry for children who were looking forward to going to WWE and were in the 15th row and all that kinda stuff...

grames_bond

Deleted User wrote: »

Well its not like you could see what was happening anyway

I mean, unless you got ringside and where within the first 6 or 7 rows, you had a lot to contend with. I felt sorry for children who were looking forward to going to WWE and were in the 15th row and all that kinda stuff...

if you were on the flats it was basicaaly sh!t in the point ur right, when they were on the mat (which lets be honest, happen alot) you couldnt see them, the balcony was always the best view! and actually had better atmosphere coz people werent told to sit down every 6 seconds!