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Personal abuse in State Benefits Forum.

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  • 23-06-2008 12:21pm
    #1
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭


    I want to raise the issue of rampant personal abuse that is going on in the State Benefits Forum.

    Examples:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055256212&page=1

    This whole thread should be deleted and the OP apologised to.

    And searching through the 1st page yeilds more and more personal directed abuse and insults.

    An SMod or CMod needs to have a look at the forum or the mod needs to be brought back into the fold as the local mods for the forum have been online for weeks at this stage and the entire forum is falling into mayhem.
    Post edited by Shield on


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Did you report the posts or pm the mods?

    Edit: Blackbriar has been extremely active over the past few weeks btw.


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    #3
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Both. An its been going on for weeks.


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    #4
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Noted that Blackbriar has been active however not in the State Benefits forum.


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    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    An SMod or CMod needs to have a look at the forum

    Drop BB a PM with your concerns.

    B


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    #6
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Will do B. Just wanted to give a heads up that thigns are getting very nasty in there.


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    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    masteroftherealm wrote: »
    Noted that Blackbriar has been active however not in the State Benefits forum.

    He was away for the last few days, hence may have missed your reported posts.


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    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    masteroftherealm wrote: »
    Will do B. Just wanted to give a heads up that thigns are getting very nasty in there.

    I just looked at the last page of that thread.
    BB left his comments there with regards to the thread, there have only been two comments posted since he did that... :confused:

    Hence, he has already dealt with it last April.


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    #9
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    That was just an example.
    The forum overall is littered with responses of "Get a f'n job waster" from people attempting to get advice on the forum. It just seems to be very lax in the letting people behave like that.
    The forum was supposed to be somewhere people can go for advice and now its just a we bash the OP forum. Not really helpful for people that aint in the best of situations. Its the kind of board that needs to be heavily moderated and people need to be warned that certain behaviour is not acceptable.
    Im not here to bash any mods or any posters indivually, more to point out the fact that the forum as a place to come for advice is not really happening and that OP's are getting lamblasted by the same people again and again and they dont seem to be getting warnings or any action being taken.


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    Hitchhiker's Guide to...
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    I don't think that 'get a job' posts should be allowed in the state benefits forum, but that's my personal view.

    For example this thread:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055304826

    the OP was asking a question and then people derail the thread by saying things like 'just get a job'. Surely the forum wasn't intended for that?

    [/imo]


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    Rb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Roundtower2 wrote: »
    I don't think that 'get a job' posts should be allowed in the state benefits forum, but that's my personal view.

    For example this thread:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055304826

    the OP was asking a question and then people derail the thread by saying things like 'just get a job'. Surely the forum wasn't intended for that?

    [/imo]
    Fully agree.

    It's almost like those weirdos who go onto the Fashion & Appearance forum and reply to any threads regarding brands/brand name clothing complaining about how brands are destroying the world etc etc. except in the case of the Social Welfare forum it's abuse of the OP.


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    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    (Changed thread title as I felt It was too personal against the mods in question)


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    javaboy
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    Roundtower2 wrote: »
    I don't think that 'get a job' posts should be allowed in the state benefits forum, but that's my personal view.

    For example this thread:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055304826

    the OP was asking a question and then people derail the thread by saying things like 'just get a job'. Surely the forum wasn't intended for that?

    [/imo]

    +1. While in real life I tend to lean towards the "get a job" side, on a forum that's specifically for State Benefits I think it's trolling tbh.


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    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,636 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Thats disgraceful behaviour in that thread. The forum should be moderated in the same vein as PI with a zero tolerance attitude.

    The admin team are really going to have to invest in a stable with a tall roof for all the high horses that roam the site!!!!


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    #15
    Bob the Builder
    Registered Users Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Bob the Builder


    In forums like after hours, a good thread is actually to go off-topic. For fora such as the State Benefits forum, the thread is thee specifically to either (a) discuss a thread or (b) to ask a question and get an answer.

    Making a suggestion is fair and great, but actually telling him to get a job, baddy bah blah is not necessary. The OP isn't working for a reason (in most cases). Until people actually know the reason, it's a small bit premature to start throwing accusations around calling the people wasters and whatever.


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    [Deleted User]
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    I've received no pm from the op of this thread.
    I have infracted several users in the first thread weeks ago.
    Ordinary users wouldn't know this.
    One of the posters refered to above is currently banned from the forum


    I've got 1 reported post in the last month from that forum if memory serves and that was from today and it had already been dealt with weeks ago.

    So the options were and are 1. Report posts-not done.
    2. PM the mods-not done either.

    Last port of call should be here to be honest.


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    #17
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    The people posting abusive messages on that thread should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

    I can't believe that people think like that in this day and age.

    I was embarrassed for them, tbh.


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    #18
    masteroftherealm
    Registered Users Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭masteroftherealm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I've received no pm from the op of this thread.
    I have infracted several users in the first thread weeks ago.
    Ordinary users wouldn't know this.
    One of the posters refered to above is currently banned from the forum


    I've got 1 reported post in the last month from that forum if memory serves and that was from today and it had already been dealt with weeks ago.

    So the options were and are 1. Report posts-not done.
    2. PM the mods-not done either.

    Last port of call should be here to be honest.

    Well in all honesty the forum is awash with people being let away wth everything. As said above the forum needs to be policed with a no tolerance policy and thats just not being done.

    The attitude and feeling is just being left to fester and as seen the forum is still getting the same type of replys. And when the forum is going the way that it is it needs to be kept a very close eye on. And that just doesnt seem to be happening.

    It shouldnt be visible to ordinary users as the attitude should not be allowed in the forum at all. It needs to be iron fist and the mods need to have a visible presence sayign that its not acceptale to act in this manner.


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    #19
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    masteroftherealm, go and report every post you can find that you think is unacceptable. Saying that the mods should act like dictators is BS, if there are no problems then people shouldnt even notice the mod.


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    takola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭takola


    masteroftherealm wrote: »
    Well in all honesty the forum is awash with people being let away wth everything. As said above the forum needs to be policed with a no tolerance policy and thats just not being done.

    The attitude and feeling is just being left to fester and as seen the forum is still getting the same type of replys. And when the forum is going the way that it is it needs to be kept a very close eye on. And that just doesnt seem to be happening.

    It shouldnt be visible to ordinary users as the attitude should not be allowed in the forum at all. It needs to be iron fist and the mods need to have a visible presence sayign that its not acceptale to act in this manner.

    In fairness masteroftherealm, no mod is ever going to have the time to read every single post in every single thread. That's why there's a report post option. It brings our attenton to something you find unacceptable. If you have a problem with what's happening in the forum then report the posts. If you have a problem with an entire thread then report a posts and maybe drop the mod a PM too. Once the posts are reported then action will be taken.
    Charter wrote:
    3. Please be tactful when replying to posts, remember that people are here to seek advice and may be in a very difficult personal situation. Any advice given should be mature, constructive and non-abusive. Excessive sarkiness & bullying will not be tolerated

    Perhaps it might be an idea to add to that part of the charter to say there will be no tolerance for "get a job, you waster" type replies and they will result in infractions/bans?

    That is up to the mod's of the forum though.


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    #21
    stevoman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    I have just posted what i think of those people on that forum thread and i am reporting every post that has personal abuse as a point. who do those people think they are!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56350729#post56350729

    i urge you all to report each post aswell as a point.


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    #22
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    stevoman wrote: »
    I have just posted what i think of those people on that forum thread and i am reporting every post that has personal abuse as a point. who do those people think they are!

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56350729#post56350729

    i urge you all to report each post aswell as a point.

    Eh well intentioned as I'm sure your idea is, I don't think the relevant mods will appreciate receiving thousands of reported post PMs.


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    stevoman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    javaboy wrote: »
    Eh well intentioned as I'm sure your idea is, I don't think the relevant mods will appreciate receiving thousands of reported post PMs.


    why not. the chap is being personally abused and as far as i am aware thats what the report a post link is here for and isnt that the mods job.


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    #24
    takola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭takola


    stevoman wrote: »
    why not. the chap is being personally abused and as far as i am aware thats what the report a post link is here for and isnt that the mods job.

    That thread has already been brought the the mods attention.


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    #25
    stevoman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    takola wrote: »
    That thread has already been brought the the mods attention.
    well to hell with it, i had to have my say too after seeing that. boards could do without people like that IMO.


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    #26
    [Deleted User]
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    stevoman wrote: »
    well to hell with it, i had to have my say too after seeing that. boards could do without people like that IMO.
    Your opinion has been noted.
    Kindly don't spam my inbox again with reports on posts already dealt with .


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    r3nu4l
    Registered Users Posts: 17,399 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    takola wrote: »
    Perhaps it might be an idea to add to that part of the charter to say there will be no tolerance for "get a job, you waster" type replies and they will result in infractions/bans?

    That is up to the mod's of the forum though.
    It's a very good idea imo! That way, a quick no-tolerance ban for charter violation is totally justified.


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