The Boards WWE Draft spectacular!

Tricity Bendix

I'd like it if you did it ASAP. I'm going to be away for the weekend so I'd like to know how long I should make any list I might have to PM you. Or you could just let me go first and I'll make my pick here and now :cool:

Minto

Sure do it, just to get it over with, who knows my luck might continue...

Mr.Nice Guy

Alright gentlemen (and RebelRockChick), we have reached the half-way point of the choice-selection part of the game and just to update you on matters, we have added a limit on the number of women allowed to TWO, just as we did for tag teams, so keep that in mind. Right then...

* FIFTH ROUND DRAFT ORDER *

1. callaway92...The Road Warriors, Rey Mysterio, Booker T, William Regal,
2. Furious-Red...Chris Benoit, Jeff Hardy, Paul London & Brian Kendrick, Bobby Lashley,
3. Vince135792003...The British Bulldogs, Vader, Jerry Lawler, Tiger Mask,
4. RebelRockChick...Ric Flair, The Fabulous Freebirds, Dusty Rhodes, Demolition,
5. b.ie curious...Jake Roberts, Ultimate Warrior, Big Show, Bob Backlund,
6. Mr.Nice Guy...Bret Hart, Roddy Piper, Kane, CM Punk,
7. orestes...Mick Foley, Lance Storm, Vince McMahon, Brian Pillman,
8. ec18...The Rock, Edge, Christian, AJ Styles,
9. Justbringit89...Brock Lesnar, Eddie Guerrero, Sabu, Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas,
10. dez_warlock...Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rob Van Dam, Rhino & Tajiri, Lita,
11. gimmick...Ted Dibiase, Ricky Steamboat, Matt Hardy & MVP, Harley Race,
12. Danger Dave...Chris Jericho, Batista, Dudley Boyz, Trish Stratus,
13. Minto...Triple H, Randy Orton, Bobby Heenan, Shane McMahon,
14. michael.etc...Andre the Giant, Goldberg, Rick Rude, Rick Martel & Tito Santana,
15. Spongey1975...Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, New Age Outlaws, Lex Luger,
16. Bounty Hunter...Hulk Hogan, John Cena, Yokozuna, Jimmy Snuka,
17. Jayhaitch2...Kurt Angle, Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett, JBL, Scott Hall,
18. KKV...The Undertaker, Curt Hennig, Big Boss Man and Bull Buchanan, Honky Tonk Man,
19. Fozzy...Kerry Von Erich, Terry Funk, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham & Mike Rotunda (IRS),
20. Bubs101...Randy Savage, Bruno Sammartino, Steiner Brothers, Sycho Sid,

Fozzy please do the usual with the above. Sorry for giving you a second crappy draw in a row by the way.

Can't believe RebelRockChick keeps featuring so highly. Has she been out of the top ten yet? I haven't been paid off I swear! Good job Bubs gave me a detailed list of preferences eh? :pac:

OK then callaway92 and Furious-Red will start us off this round. HAPPY PICKINGS to all. :cool:

callaway92

Número Úno again..:)..The messers have become..The Messees

RebelRockChick

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

4. RebelRockChick...Ric Flair, The Fabulous Freebirds, Dusty Rhodes, Demolition,

Can't believe RebelRockChick keeps featuring so highly. Has she been out of the top ten yet? I haven't been paid off I swear!

Indeed, haven't been outside the top 10, pure luck I guess

*your cheque is in the post* :pac:

orestes

Number 7. I'm slowly but surely moving up the numbers with each draw, I should be number 1 in round seven or eight at this rate

Bounty Hunter

going to have to add a few names to my own list as ive a feeling all my picks will be gone by number 16 and all was looking rosey when I i got no.1 for Rd2 not in the top 10 since.

Fozzy

Considering that I've only cracked the top ten once (and even that was at number nine), I'm very happy with my roster so far. Although I suppose I am only picking guys who I like

Mr.Nice Guy

callaway92 you picked my number two pick you plank! :pac:

Pick again.

callaway92

Damn..sorry Bud..Getting tired

Mr.Nice Guy

No worries. We've had a lot of names at this stage so it's tricky to make note of who's available.

callaway92

I dont think anyone chose Pat Patterson..Hes mine so.

Mr.Nice Guy

I'll be picking on Furious-Red's behalf as he is away for the weekend and gave me a list of his choices.

That's likely to be the last one of this evening because I don't expect Vince to be on tonight and I don't want to ask him for his pick at this hour of the night since he's probably asleep! Hopefully he'll be on tomorrow and if not I'll text him then.

Maybe we'll get a good few picks in for Friday. I didn't expect us to be on Round 5 tonight anyway so I'm pleased.

callaway92

Made my choice.And it wasnt Patrick P. ..It was Fab Moolah..NEXT!!

18... You suck MNG.


Ah well... I'll survive. Its becoming more and more tricky with people now.


And i still don't really know how we finish the game... :P



But still.. Even if the end of the game makes no sense and is really sloppy.. at least its fun now.. :pac:

Mr.Nice Guy

KKV, the end of the game will be the best thing ever...EVER.*

*May not be true

Right then now to make FR's pick for him...

Bounty Hunter

FR didnt want a free Hornswaggle i guess, i woulda taken him the kiddies adore that wee chappie

Mr.Nice Guy

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

FR didnt want a free Hornswaggle i guess, i woulda taken him the kiddies adore that wee chappie

I wouldn't regard Finlay and Hornswoggle as an established tag team even though they've teamed up a bit recently.

I haven't been watching SD or ECW though so I could be wrong but isn't Finlay still primarily a singles guy?

Bounty Hunter

they are in the midst of a rivalry with Miz/Morrison atm I think and its been several weeks since Finlay has been in a match that wasnt a tag match with Hornie (i think)

Mr.Nice Guy

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

they are in the midst of a rivalry with Miz/Morrison atm I think and its been several weeks since Finlay has been in a match that wasnt a tag match with Hornie (i think)

I don't consider teaming up for the purposes of a rivalry though makes for an established team. Maybe if they'd won the tag titles an argument could be made for them but to me, teaming up for the purposes of a feud isn't enough. I realise it's a vague area. I recall the issue being raised by KKV earlier in the thread:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56480590&postcount=676

I'd stand by what I said there otherwise you could make a case for loads of combinations of people.

Mr.Nice Guy

Vince still doesn't have net access so asked me to make his pick for him. Pretty good pick too me thinks.

RebelRockChick is up next.

RebelRockChick

Have made my "Superstar" pick....

Next up, b.ie curious

Fozzy

Billy Graham's another of the big names that I thought would go sooner

Mr.Nice Guy

Nice pick, RRC. Was surprised the Superstar didn't go sooner myself. Just made b.ie curious' pick there.

I have to get something to eat now but I'll try and make my pick as soon as I can and maybe we'll make good progress this evening.

Mr.Nice Guy

OK just made my pick. Sorry for the delay but I was hoping for Youtube to sort itself out. It seems to be having problems.

Hopefully it will correct itself later.

Fozzy

Your second video is of DDP

Danger_Dave

Fozzy wrote: »

Your second video is of DDP

Quick lets penalize him. Take his pick away !

Fozzy

Danger_Dave wrote: »

Quick lets penalize him. Take his pick away !

I'm thinking about it. He seems to think that just because he set this thing up that he can flaunt the rules. He'll come up with some loophole now where he gets DDP too, just watch

Mr.Nice Guy

Can you guys see the videos? I can't even access Youtube at the minute. :pac:

Edit: OK I think I fixed it now.

Bounty Hunter

Orestes was marked down as having pick the RnR express in the OP of the picks thread

Fozzy

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Orestes was marked down as having pick the RnR express in the OP of the picks thread

Oh ****, I actually thought that I'd done that and went to check it but I didn't spot it

orestes

Ok, I'm a teeny bit hungover from last night (just home from the impromptu beers last night, ended up in bloody Maynooth somehow) so I gotta take a nap and then I'll make my pick, sorry for the delay guys

Mr.Nice Guy

Bloody hell orestes you're cutting it close. You've got less than two hours to choose or you'll miss your turn and you won't be able to pick!

orestes

Done now, man that was close! If they aren't recognised as a tag-team by the rules edit the pick and I'll take Malenko. Gotta run, late for work!

Danger_Dave

Dean Malenko and Perry saturn tagged for nearly six months in the WWE in 00. Think they'd have to be considered a tag team.

Mr.Nice Guy

Malenko and Saturn is a good pick. Didn't enter my thoughts at all.

Danger_Dave

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Malenko and Saturn is a good pick. Didn't enter my thoughts at all.

It did for me, but i was just hoping to pick Dean Malenko in a later round

I thought of them but didnt think they'd eb allowed (although i dont remember them being a two man team, i only really remember them as a foursome with Eddie and Chris)

orestes

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Malenko and Saturn is a good pick. Didn't enter my thoughts at all.

I just wanted Malenko to be honest, but figured Saturn could come in useful.

I'm not sure how long they teamed up for but I definitely remember them being a team for a while after the Radicalz angle ended. Like I said, I'm not entirely sure if they count as an established team so if anyone has any objections let me know and I'll just take Malenko

michael.etc...

I guess it's down to MNG, but i would think they should be included and it would be harsh to discount them. i remember them being a regular unit with Terri as manager, around the time when Perry fell in love with Moppy.

Jesus christ....

I was suprised AJ Styles was allowed. Does that mean that anyone who wrestled in dark matches/as a jobber is allowed? That seems to be stretching it in my opinion.

Bounty Hunter

michael.etc... wrote: »

I was suprised AJ Styles was allowed. Does that mean that anyone who wrestled in dark matches/as a jobber is allowed? That seems to be stretching it in my opinion.

cant remember who picked AJ but i thought that too, got me questioing the whole you get the wrestler at their peak thing, ie does their peak have to be in the WWE? cos i dont really recall AJ's WWE peak. would open up a lot of picks in my head also of people who only spent a short amount of time in WWE but were great elsewhere.

michael.etc...

^^^ yeah surely if you picked AJ as a WWE guy, he'd only count as a jobber, because that's all he did there.

But he was also never under any sort of contract if i remember, so like celebrities, he wasn't an actual employee.. Hmm confusing...

Mr.Nice Guy

With regard to the wrestler being at their peak thing, I was in favour of the wrestler's peak being strictly within WWE, but others didn't appear to want that much restriction so that requirement effectively went by the wayside. Bubs in an earlier round asked for:

I kind of need to ask permission before I make this pick because I have a feeling I will probably have to revoke it.

If I pick the Steiner brothers can I have the two of them from their time in the magnificent 7? They did certainly have a match at that time
# March 5, 2001 - Nitro: Booker T & Diamond Dallas Page defeated The Steiner Brothers

This was allowed and AJ Styles went on to be picked (whose prime was certainly not as a jobber in WWE).

michael.etc wrote:

I was suprised AJ Styles was allowed. Does that mean that anyone who wrestled in dark matches/as a jobber is allowed? That seems to be stretching it in my opinion.

In the very first rule of the contest we allowed those who wrestled in dark matches/as a jobber to be eligible for selection. No objections were made then.

I'm sad to see Sunny picked. I had her very high up on my list.

michael.etc...

Ahh right. Fair enough then. I think the peak not being in WWE/ Eligibility of jobbers doesn't quite sit right, but since it's within the rules, no complaints here!

Sure the first time things are done, there'll always be little things up for tweaking next time round.

Machismo Fan

I've been watching this for ages and I'm very surprised at some of the people who were picked before Dean Malenko.

Mr.Nice Guy

Seeing as we seem to have a bit of a lull in the challenge while we wait for Justbringit89 to make his pick, I figured I'd put forward some ideas I've been having about determining the overall winner.

These ideas are NOT final and are open to suggestions but if they meet general approval then great. Here's what I suggest...

Once the final pick has been made in the challenge we will do a final draw to determine the order of our draft presentations.

The idea is that our rosters will make up sixty minute TV programmes much like the shows from the old days (and ECW today). Each roster will be given a World Title and you can place that on whomever you want. You will also be given a secondary title (IC Title, US title, ECW it's up to you) and you place that on whomever you want. Tag titles, women's titles would be

optional and NOT required.

You outline the direction for your roster and your respective feuds. For example:

"So-and-so will be my World Champion. I intend to have him engage in a feud with _____. I will have my IC champ be _______ and he can feud with ______."

You can basically be as imaginative with it as you wish and can put in as much detail as you want.

I think it was Minto who suggested putting together cards. I feel it would be quite interesting if we took the line that a big PPV event is about two months away and that we each have to put forward three matches for this event. So for example:

"My main event feud will culminate at the PPV with my World Champion _____ taking on (insert name(s) here). I will have a match featuring ______ against _______ " etc.

Adopting a similar tactic to Bounty Hunter's Around The Horn challenge, each participant will be allowed to make a post in which they query a roster but that they can do this only ONCE per roster. So for instance if I make my case for my roster, each participant can ask me questions - and I am entitled to respond to them - but therein ends that particular exchange. I think that's the best way to avoid this discussion thread being derailed into a flame war about why so-and-so is no use etc. So to sum up this point, each participant can query each roster but you can do so

ONLY ONCE. You can respond to every query made about your own roster.

When each participant has made their case for their roster, you choose your top 5 rosters (can't pick your own one obviously!). Roster number one will be worth 10 points, number two will be worth 7 points, number three will be worth 5 points, number four will be worth 3 points and number five will be worth 1 point. You PM me your lists and I will publish them on an agreed date in a full and frank manner to ensure fairness (and ensure my maths skills are accurate!) and we will crown the inaugural winner of the first Boards WWE Draft Spectacular.

Thoughts, suggestions, criticisms all welcome!

Edit: Upon reflection, a draw to determine the order seems like a step too far. We'll simply set a deadline for each roster summary to be in by.

Bounty Hunter

that sounds like a really good idea MNG, will make for some great reading after that final draw when everyone outlines the direction of their roster. Some people might not like the slight debate style of it but id give it a big thumbs up and think it would be a good way to end such a thread.

btw dont think it makes sense as a sticky but hope the other thread sticks around for quite a while as it really makes for great reading/viewing.

Fozzy

Is there any need to do a draw for the final bit? Number one doesn't get any advantage over number 20 apart from maybe having their piece read first by most people. I don't see any reason not to just allow people to post their bit whenever they're ready. It would probably get done quicker too

Mr.Nice Guy

Fozzy wrote: »

Is there any need to do a draw for the final bit? Number one doesn't get any advantage over number 20 apart from maybe having their piece read first by most people. I don't see any reason not to just allow people to post their bit whenever they're ready. It would probably get done quicker too

Well I wanted to make sure everyone got the opportunity to have their say but I think you're right actually.

If we instead announce a deadline and tell people to have their summary in by then it would be a lot quicker and smoother so let's not do a draw.

michael.etc...

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

• The idea is that our rosters will make up sixty minute TV programmes much like the shows from the old days (and ECW today). Each roster will be given a World Title and you can place that on whomever you want. You will also be given a secondary title (IC Title, US title, ECW it's up to you) and you place that on whomever you want. Tag titles, women's titles would be optional and NOT required.

• You outline the direction for your roster and your respective feuds. For example:
  
  "So-and-so will be my World Champion. I intend to have him engage in a feud with _____. I will have my IC champ be _______ and he can feud with ______."
  
  You can basically be as imaginative with it as you wish and can put in as much detail as you want.

• I think it was Minto who suggested putting together cards. I feel it would be quite interesting if we took the line that a big PPV event is about two months away and that we each have to put forward three matches for this event. So for example:
  
  "My main event feud will culminate at the PPV with my World Champion _____ taking on (insert name(s) here). I will have a match featuring ______ against _______ " etc.

• Adopting a similar tactic to Bounty Hunter's Around The Horn challenge, each participant will be allowed to make a post in which they query a roster but that they can do this only ONCE per roster.
  
  So for instance if I make my case for my roster, each participant can ask me questions - and I am entitled to respond to them - but therein ends that particular exchange. I think that's the best way to avoid this discussion thread being derailed into a flame war about why so-and-so is no use etc.
  
  So to sum up this point, each participant can query each roster but you can do so ONLY ONCE. You can respond to every query made about your own roster.

• When each participant has made their case for their roster, you choose your top 5 rosters (can't pick your own one obviously!). Roster number one will be worth 10 points, number two will be worth 7 points, number three will be worth 5 points, number four will be worth 3 points and number five will be worth 1 point.
  
  You PM me your lists and I will publish them on an agreed date in a full and frank manner to ensure fairness (and ensure my maths skills are accurate!) and we will crown the inaugural winner of the first Boards WWE Draft Spectacular.

Thoughts, suggestions, criticisms all welcome!

Edit: Upon reflection, a draw to determine the order seems like a step too far. We'll simply set a deadline for each roster summary to be in by.

That all sounds sensible and fair to me. Well done on laying that out for us. A couple of questions though, which might be me being stupid...

Do we post questions about each others rosters in this thread? And does this occur before, or during when we've sent you the final tally of points? We might need a deadline for posting the roster etc.. then another for any discussion that follows, then another again for the lists to be Pm'd.
I'm just thinking, it might make sense to have a completed roster discussion thread? we could all make one post there, with our complete roster, and arguments, but then if anyone has any queries, they go here?
Okay, confusing myself now..