The Boards WWE Draft spectacular!

callaway92

Just submitter my roster:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

michael.etc...

These are making for some interesting reading indeed. Liked RRC and MNG's especially, but i think Fozzy's is a really good read because it focuses on the storylines, and the overall potential in the roster, more so than one card.

Doing mine atm too.

Bubs101

And we have a winner

callaway92 wrote: »

Match 3...Chris Masters vs Fabulous Moolah...Masterlock challenge...Moolah says she can get out of the masterlock...Can She??

****ing hilarious

Danger_Dave

Decided to put the first counter to someones roster . Vince you have 4. Davey Boy Smith versus Nigel McGuinness in a match together. However you say at there peaks. Nigel McGuinness never wrestled in the wwe at his peak .

5. Billy Kidman (the WCW version) versus Ultimo Dragon (the WCW version) This seems wrong, this is the WWE Draft, so to have the guys competing at there peak which was on the Rival company at the time seems weak.

jayhaitch2

Hi Everyone.


Having laptop issues again, should have mine posted by this time tomorrow. Sorry if I'm holding everything up

callaway92

Bubs101 wrote: »

And we have a winner

****ing hilarious

lol genius isnt it :rolleyes: haha

I didnt realise until i had to write up my thingy how much I hate this haha

Vince135792003

Danger_Dave wrote: »

Decided to put the first counter to someones roster . Vince you have 4. Davey Boy Smith versus Nigel McGuinness in a match together. However you say at there peaks. Nigel McGuinness never wrestled in the wwe at his peak .

5. Billy Kidman (the WCW version) versus Ultimo Dragon (the WCW version) This seems wrong, this is the WWE Draft, so to have the guys competing at there peak which was on the Rival company at the time seems weak.

I think that's a brutally weak argument.

Why can't I state that I'd like my wrestlers to be wrestling at their peaks irrespective of where that was? The fact that they're peaks were not in the WWE is a mute point to me. Ric Flair, Dusty Rhodes and the Fabulous Freebirds (3 of RRC's picks) experienced the peak of their careers outside the WWE.

Should that take away from her picks? Hell no. Because when someone picks Ric Flair, you're picking Ric Flair at his best and not a watered down WWF 1991 Ric Flair.

When you're looking at wrestlers to me you ask the following questions, at their peaks; did he/she draw?, did he/she have great matches? and could she/he talk? And if you apply them questions to my roster, you'll get a yes to at least one of those questions with many of my roster getting a yes for all three (Brody, Vader, Lawler, Rogers).

Danger_Dave

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I think that's a brutally weak argument.

RebelRobot Chick picked people who are closely associated with the WWE . You picked Billy Kidman + Ultimo Dragon as a Tag, even though they never tagged as 2 man tag in the WWE(only a 3 man tag on Velocity), Both never had extended runs in the WWE, therefore are not closely associated with the WWE, unlike Ric Flair/Dusty Rhodes.

You pick Nigel McGuinness who only ever wrestled dark matches i believe? (could be wrong on that) Again never closely related to the WWE, only to wrestling.

Vince135792003

Danger_Dave wrote: »

RebelRobot Chick picked people who are closely associated with the WWE . You picked Billy Kidman + Ultimo Dragon as a Tag, even though they never tagged as 2 man tag in the WWE(only a 3 man tag on Velocity), Both never had extended runs in the WWE, therefore are not

I'm not going to answer each point directly because you're only supposed to criticise someones roster once I believe. I will say you're factually wrong about them never tag teaming before. I checked. I don't think this is the first time you've been querying my picks either. Get over it. One of the reasons why I sometimes went for the lesser known/surprising picks (like making the Bulldogs my first pick when I had the option of arguably more known people) was to add a bit of color to the whole thing.


Now on your point about RRC picks, that's where you're wrong. When people think Fabulous Freebirds, they think of the Von Erich feud in World Class in Texas.

When people think of Dusty Rhodes, they think of his feud with the Four Horsemen and not his 1 year polka dot run in the WWE (which was was shorter than Billy Kidmans).

When people ask Terry Funk (a pick of Fozzy's) what the peak of his career is, he doesn't say the dumpster match at Wrestlemania or any period in the WWF I would imagine.

The list goes on and on and the faulty logic you're applying to my roster could be transposed on 90% of the rosters.

Danger_Dave

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I will say you're factually wrong about them never tag teaming before. I checked. I don't think this is the first time you've been querying my picks either. Get over it.

Fair enough on the never 2 man tagged before in the wwe was not 100% sure, also dude relax ! its a bit of fun .

I just wanted to get the ball rolling on what should be the most important part of the draft , arguing about other peoples rosters while defending your own. To let other people see your claims and hopefully improve your own roster in doing so.

P.S On the actual subject we''ll just have to agree to disagree .

Fozzy

Vince135792003 wrote: »

When people ask Terry Funk (a pick of Fozzy's) what the peak of his career is, he doesn't say the dumpster match at Wrestlemania or any period in the WWF I would imagine.

Might be a good time to reiterate a point that I made a few weeks ago. You could say that Nigel McGuinness's WWE prime was as a jobber on Heat. But at the same time, we're allowed use our wrestlers any way that we want. Even though Nigel was a WWE jobber, he was having great matches elsewhere for other promotions. So he had the talent that Vince speaks of when he was in WWE, and Vince wants to use him in a role that's different from a jobber

The Freebirds never had an extended run in the WWF, they only had about five matches

I think I made my original point about Funk. The Funk that wrestled in the WWF in the mid-80s wasn't any different from the Funk that wrestled for the NWA in the late-80s, apart from having a much more prominent role in the promotion

Vince135792003

Fozzy wrote: »

So he had the talent that Vince speaks of when he was in WWE,

As did Kidman and Dragon (at least initially) in the WWE but they just didn't really get the level of oppurtunities they got in WCW (especially in Dragon's case). In many ways, you could make same statement about Terry Funk in relation his 80's run in the WWE. He was just as good as he would be later but he was positioned in a different way. And that shouldn't take away from Fozzy's pick.

Im only online for a second before retreating back to bed (i bruised my tail bone, or so im told, so its painful to be at the pc, and lying in bed is the only thing i can do in semi-comfort) but i think that if everyone starts getting ultra competitive, its going to ruin the fun of the game


And my back is hurting, so im gone again now.. all the rosters look awesome, but im gonna wait til all are posted until even trying to pick a top 5.

Mr.Nice Guy

On the issue of the deadline we said a maximum of 7 days which by my count would make the final deadline Tuesday night. However I just got a PM from ec18 asking if I could extend the deadline to Thursday. I think that would be better because then we can have Friday, Saturday and Sunday to make our votes and we can then announce the winner on Monday. I hope that's OK with everyone.

So then everyone has until 11:30 pm on Thursday night, 21st of August, to submit their rosters. After that Fozzy can just lock the submissions thread.

By my count we've received ten rosters so far and are still waiting on roster submissions from the following...

Jayhaitch2
gimmick
b.ie curious
orestes
Furious-Red
michael.etc
ec18
Bubs101
Justbringit89
dez_warlock

Remember if you don't submit your roster you won't be eligible to win the contest or help determine the winner so try and get your rosters submitted.

No one is expecting a huge essay, just a decent outline of your plans. :cool:

michael.etc...

Hey, i just posted my roster there. Hopefully it reads well, i fear i repeated myself a bit.
Agree with Fozzy and vince in regards to stars who we're using who weren't necessarily big in the WWE. It was always made clear i felt, that we'd incorporate what we felt was there prime..

Forgot to mention- tnx to MNG for putting a helluva effort into this whole thing.

Fozzy

So, by my check the following people have less than 24 hours to submit their roster summary:

Furious-Red
ec18
dez_warlock
Jayhaitch 2
b.ie curious
gimmick
justbringit89
orestes

It would be a bit of a pity if nearly half the participants ended up basically being kicked out of the game

You don't have to write something even half as long as some of the other ones!

Vince135792003

Fozzy wrote: »

You don't have to write something even half as long as some of the other ones!

Yeah, just put your roster up and select a few matches. Pictures, storylines etc... aren't necessary at this stage. If the card and roster is good, it will stand out anyway.

It would be a shame for everyone not to have put something up. There's still time though so get typing!

ec18

just posted mine

Vince135792003

ec18 wrote: »

just posted mine

Cool. Still waiting on:

Furious-Red
dez_warlock
Jayhaitch 2
b.ie curious
gimmick
justbringit89
orestes

jayhaitch2

Mine is up now too. Sorry for the delay and many thanks to MNG for all his efforts.

When do we get to questioning and voting?

Vince135792003

Update on the list:

Furious-Red
ec18
dez_warlock
Jayhaitch 2
b.ie curious
gimmick
justbringit89
orestes

You can question a way. Voting will be starting probably tommorrow by PM'ing MNG.

gimmick

Ya, I am done now. It actually went a tad longer than what I had hoped.

orestes

Finall got mine up, really sorry about the delay guys

Fozzy

So that leaves:

Furious-Red
dez_warlock
b.ie curious
justbringit89

There's still time!

Some of the rosters have stood out to me more after the summary pieces, michael.etc's in particular. Not that he had a bad roster, but it didn't stand out to me too much over some of the others. The booking made it more interesting though. There's a few others like that too

Bounty Hunter

id agree I think in action (PPV form) Micheal's etc roster looks a good deal better.

hope the final four get theirs in today but if not maybe they could still be able to enter theirs over the weekend, but if people have already voted before they posted them, it would be their own fault as they missed the initial deadline.

Vince135792003

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

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hope the final four get theirs in today but if not maybe they could still be able to enter theirs over the weekend, but if people have already voted before they posted them, it would be their own fault as they missed the initial deadline.

I think today should be the cut off point just to make things clear.

gimmick

Thought the cut of of 11.30pm today was not open to discussion?

Fozzy

gimmick wrote: »

Thought the cut of of 11.30pm today was not open to discussion?

I thought so too, there's already been an extension. It'll be seven days then, won't it? When we were making the picks we had to check on the thread almost every day, so there's no excuse of not noticing it or not having enough time really. Some people were writing their summaries before the seven days had even started

Vince135792003

3 to go:

dez_warlock
b.ie curious
justbringit89

Mr.Nice Guy

I think Fozzy should lock the submissions thread after 11:30pm tonight. There's been more than 7 days by this point to get the rosters in.

After the deadline passes people can send me their top 5 rosters and I'll tally the votes over the weekend and announce the winner for Monday hopefully. :cool:

Vince135792003

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think Fozzy should lock the submissions thread after 11:30pm tonight. There's been more than 7 days by this point to get the rosters in.

After the deadline passes people can send me their top 5 rosters and I'll tally the votes over the weekend and announce the winner for Monday hopefully. :cool:

Fozzy should temporarily lock both threads. Kind of like the day before a referendum or election when there's a media ban on discussing it. "A day of reflection" is what it's called I believe!

Seriously, I'm read through them all now. It's hard narrowing it down to a top 5.

callaway92

is there a prize for worst roster??:o

Tricity Bendix

In before the lock!

I had so much more written, plus some pretty nifty pictures done up, but I totally ran out of time.

gimmick

For me, number 1 and 2 are obvious. Their order less so.

Am I correct in saying JBI89 and Dez Warlock are disqualified? If so, a great waste of some great picks.

Question: If you ask no questions, and none are asked against you, does that count for or against, or is it just a nothing?

Mr.Nice Guy

gimmick wrote: »

Am I correct in saying JBI89 and Dez Warlock are disqualified? If so, a great waste of some great picks.

Yeah I think we'll just have to move on without those guys. I feel for dez as I think he's actually on holidays still but he's been away longer than he expected it seems. As for JBI89, well he's shown little interest in the later rounds so him not submitting his ideas doesn't surprise me too much. A shame because I thought his roster was good.

gimmick wrote:

Question: If you ask no questions, and none are asked against you, does that count for or against, or is it just a nothing?

No that shouldn't count against anyone. That was just an optional element for us all.

I think I've two people in mind for my top 5 but I'll give it a bit more thought over the weekend.

Bounty Hunter

This is the last weekend im in the Country and dont know how much ill be online (and when I am I might not be fully sober) so I just made my picks, kinda surprised with who I picked too,1 or 2 rosters I hadnt expected actually got into my top 5 when it came to time for me to pick.

so over to everyone else and remember... Vote Bounty Hunter

Vince135792003

My vote has just been cast too.

Mr.Nice Guy

OK we've got 18 participants eligible to make their votes and so far I've got 6 votes from people which is pretty good going. Still looking for votes from the following names not crossed out...

Spongey1975
Jayhaitch2
RebelRockChick
gimmick
b.ie curious
Fozzy
callaway92
orestes
Furious-Red
Bounty Hunter
Mr.Nice Guy
michael.etc
KKV
Vince135792003
Danger Dave
ec18
Bubs101
Minto

Everyone has until Sunday night to get their votes in so hopefully that's plenty of time. :cool:

How exactly do we vote?

Just PM MNG with something like:

Hey MNG, my votes for the draft are:

1. KKV
2. KVK
3. VKK
4. KKK
5. VVV

ec18

Deleted User wrote: »

How exactly do we vote?

Just PM MNG with something like:

Hey MNG, my votes for the draft are:

1. KKV
2. KVK
3. VKK
4. KKK
5. VVV

yep

michael.etc...

Just sent MNG my votes.

most of the rosters made really good reading. There was some that came together really obviously, and others were a bit more off-the-cuff. A couple people mentioned mine coming together well (cheers),and i think thats really true of a few of em...

Fozzy

I just made my votes. It was a tough one narrowing it down

Mr.Nice Guy

Okey doke here's an updated list of those who have presented their votes. Those who aren't crossed out have until tomorrow night to send them to me.

Spongey1975
Jayhaitch2
RebelRockChick
gimmick
b.ie curious
Fozzy
callaway92
orestes
Furious-Red
Bounty Hunter
Mr.Nice Guy
michael.etc
Deleted User
Vince135792003
Danger Dave
ec18
Bubs101
Minto


So then still waiting on b.ie curious, orestes, Furious-Red, Bubs and Minto.

Mr.Nice Guy

I've just PM'd a reminder to the final quintet who have yet to send me their votes that they have until midnight tonight to PM me their top 5 rosters. I hope to have everyone's votes on board and the plan is to announce the winner early tomorrow morning. I'll also publish how everyone voted to ensure that everything was done fairly. I haven't yet counted the votes but there does seem to be a few names popping up regularly but it might be close at the top.

Vince135792003

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I've just PM'd a reminder to the final quintet who have yet to send me their votes that they have until midnight tonight to PM me their top 5 rosters. I hope to have everyone's votes on board and the plan is to announce the winner early tomorrow morning. I'll also publish how everyone voted to ensure that everything was done fairly. I haven't yet counted the votes but there does seem to be a few names popping up regularly but it might be close at the top.

Your system has more accountability than the Olympic boxing one.

Mr.Nice Guy

Vince135792003 wrote: »

You're system has more accountability than the Olympic boxing one.

Hopefully it will produce a more decisive result. :cool:

Mr.Nice Guy

An update on proceedings, I've received the votes of orestes and Minto so that leaves the following trio who have yet to give their top 5 rosters...

Bubs101
Furious-Red
b.ie curious

If you chaps want to have your say on the winner you have until midnight to PM me your choices.

So let's rock the vote lads. :pac:

Tricity Bendix

And here are the results from the d4 jury...
(in other words, votes submitted)

Mr.Nice Guy

And then there were two. Furious-Red and Bubs101 have just over two hours to submit their votes.

I wonder if even one person voted for me


We should have had 5 regular votes, and a sympathy vote for people like me. Like a "thanks for trying" kinda prize