Highly paid people do they deserve it?

Enlil_Nick

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

Bull****

Untill you've starred in a decent film with a decent skill challenging role or scored a penalty that won an important cup/league then you cannot talk

You cannot put a price on skill

brianthebard

Deleted User wrote: »

You cannot put a price on skill

And yet people do it everyday.

funk-you

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

My GF is an actress and if you think it's not hard your just plain wrong. Just the three years in a London drama school alone is a killer. Emotionally and physically draining and she was up every day at six rehearsing, going to the gym, 8 hours of college, 4 hours of rehearsal and then come home and practice and learn lines , character study etc until bed.

Not to mention imagine going in every day under the strictest conditions and being told you have the grace of a bag lady and you are after putting on weight while you are trying to properly replicate some overly camp directors perfect vision on stage. When you finish drama school trying to get an agent and then giving up mst of your time to do unpaid auditions, most of which you wont get not because of lack of talent but because of your tits aren't perfect/you have a pimple/wrong hair etc etc.

Even if you "make it" the money you get is a lot to do with promotional work as opposed to the actual acting as well as people for some reason following you to want to know evey facet of your life and constantly judging you.

A lot of actors get into it for fame but most "real" actor do it for the love of their art. I've got a very good technical job and still have nothing but respect for actors who work very hard in a hard industry.

It's not all shopping and rat like dogs.

OT a lot of very well paid people have paid there dues and worked some god awful roles to get where they are and have loads of skills and experience that you just wouldn't see looking in from outside. In the private sector you'll only be paid what you're worth. If they're not making money off you then you wouldn't be there.

-Funk

Nichololas

Deleted User wrote: »

Bull****

Untill you've starred in a decent film with a decent skill challenging role or scored a penalty that won an important cup/league then you cannot talk

You cannot put a price on skill

Ok, how about an old old farmer in the back end of Vietnam. He's been farming rice from sun up til sun down for the past 60 years, and knows everything there is to know about it. That's a skill, yet he gets paid 10c a week. Now consider Cameron Diaz getting paid $20 million for Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle..

Wazdakka

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funk-you

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

Ok, how about an old old farmer in the back end of Vietnam. He's been farming rice from sun up til sun down for the past 60 years, and knows everything there is to know about it. That's a skill, yet he gets paid 10c a week. Now consider Cameron Diaz getting paid $20 million for Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle..

Ther's only one Cameron Diaz that would have gotten that reaction and made people come to the box office to spend their money. There's a million rice farmers giving the exact same product.

-Funk

gabgab

This is hilarious and smacks of begrudgery, a person, a product is worth what somebody or the market will pay for it.

That is a very simple facet of business.............

Some of the views on this are hilarious, everything is easy until you try and do it yourself, and anybody that has made a decent success of themselves at football has worked damn hard to get there.

For the people that do not think they deserve it, what do they deserve......?? How many people here are in a competitive job, every day the could get cut from a team, they train hard and have made alot of sacrifices to get there,

That is ignoring the percentage of people that NEVER make it, it is the same for the guy that opens up his own shop, they work hard.

The BEGRUDGERY on this thread is hilarious, almost comical if it was'nt actually so firmly believed,

That house/apartment that you're buying or renting....... Is it worth the amount you pay for it?? What makes it worth it? The principals are the same for most things involving money,

funk-you

gabgab wrote: »

This is hilarious and smacks of begrudgery, a person, a product is worth what somebody or the market will pay for it.

That is a very simple facet of business.............

Some of the views on this are hilarious, everything is easy until you try and do it yourself, and anybody that has made a decent success of themselves at football has worked damn hard to get there.

For the people that do not think they deserve it, what do they deserve......?? How many people here are in a competitive job, every day the could get cut from a team, they train hard and have made alot of sacrifices to get there,

That is ignoring the percentage of people that NEVER make it, it is the same for the guy that opens up his own shop, they work hard.

The BEGRUDGERY on this thread is hilarious, almost comical if it was'nt actually so firmly believed,

That house/apartment that you're buying or renting....... Is it worth the amount you pay for it?? What makes it worth it? The principals are the same for most things involving money,

+1,000,000,000

-Funk

gabgab

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

Hey Enil what do you do for a living?? I reckon its a piece of piss and you're seriously overpaid for it............. Thats annoying is'nt it......??

• did you get up this morning at 5am, after finishing last night at 7 or 8, then going home, doing all the stuff the rest of us have to do, and then head in today, working in a pressurised environment, answering maybe:
• 25 and 200 phonecalls/e-mails in between appointments
• lunch, you must be joking
• Flat out all day people pulling from you in every direction, needing an answer for this, approval for that
• Decisions that have an impact on your livelihood, your employees livelihood,

etc etc etc

colly10

No, I work just as hard

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

Because people look at these types of jobs differently, I think a Pro footballer is worth every cent he gets, if his job was easy everyone would be doing it. The simple fact is that even players like John O Shea are massivly talented and deserve to be paid well for it.

Nichololas

funk-you wrote: »

Ther's only one Cameron Diaz that would have gotten that reaction and made people come to the box office to spend their money. There's a million rice farmers giving the exact same product.
-Funk

If you could somehow quantify effort I get the feeling that Cameron Diaz would come up distinctly lacking, though. Besides, the thread title is do they deserve the amount they get, which, well - see Charlie's Angels (kinda picking on this because it was the first thing that came up when I googled for highest paid actors for a single film but I think it applies over all films. I mean, its absolutely awesome that you can get paid that, but do you think any actor deserves such high wages for any film?

gabgab wrote: »

Hey Enil what do you do for a living?? I reckon its a piece of piss and you're seriously overpaid for it............. Thats annoying is'nt it......??

I'm a temp and I get paid way too much for the amount of work I do.

colly10 wrote: »

Because people look at these types of jobs differently, I think a Pro footballer is worth every cent he gets, if his job was easy everyone would be doing it. The simple fact is that even players like John O Shea are massivly talented and deserve to be paid well for it.

Yup, a lot of players are hugely talented and certainly not everyone can play football like them, but upwards of €30,000 a week to kick a ball around? Saying that they get paid that much because people will pay to see them is irrelevant, because the question is whether they deserve the amount they're paid..

funk-you

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

If you could somehow quantify effort I get the feeling that Cameron Diaz would come up distinctly lacking, though. Besides, the thread title is do they deserve the amount they get, which, well - see Charlie's Angels (kinda picking on this because it was the first thing that came up when I googled for highest paid actors for a single film but I think it applies over all films. I mean, its absolutely awesome that you can get paid that, but do you think any actor deserves such high wages for any film?

Yes. As i said before she can pull in the money and deserves her share of it. Also the filming probably took 6 months. Then promotions and interviews etc. was probably the guts of a year for her to earn it.

Also if say the studio made 100million for example and you only got paid an average industrial wage for being one of the main reasons they made anything at all would you not think you deserve more?

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

Yup, a lot of players are hugely talented and certainly not everyone can play football like them, but upwards of €30,000 a week to kick a ball around? Saying that they get paid that much because people will pay to see them is irrelevant, because the question is whether they deserve the amount they're paid..

I know if i was told what to do with my whole life and had to train constantly, play and perform other duties not to mention being better than 99% of people out there at what i do i would expect to be compensated damn well.

Just like me sitting in work, i didn't go to college and spend my free time researching and going through technical manuals trying to be the best i can for no reward.

-Funk

colly10

No, I work just as hard

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

If you could somehow quantify effort I get the feeling that Cameron Diaz would come up distinctly lacking, though. Besides, the thread title is do they deserve the amount they get, which, well - see Charlie's Angels (kinda picking on this because it was the first thing that came up when I googled for highest paid actors for a single film but I think it applies over all films. I mean, its absolutely awesome that you can get paid that, but do you think any actor deserves such high wages for any film?



I'm a temp and I get paid way too much for the amount of work I do.



Yup, a lot of players are hugely talented and certainly not everyone can play football like them, but upwards of €30,000 a week to kick a ball around? Saying that they get paid that much because people will pay to see them is irrelevant, because the question is whether they deserve the amount they're paid..

Yes because I feel that if you spent your life with the ambition of owning your own very successfull company you'd have a good chance if you were really dedicated enough. If you did the same thing trying to make it as a footballer you'd have nearly no chance.
I don't know if it's still the same with kids these days but when I was 8 pretty much every lad played football with few exceptions, as the years go by the rubbish thats sits on the bench gets weaned out and the scouts come in and bring you to a better club, and you'd need to stand out at that one and be scouted there too.
Crap explaination but my point is that so many play football from a young age, so many try but yet so few actually make it to the mega bucks level.
Think about how many kids play between Ireland and the UK and yet the Premiership buys most of their top players from abroad, being that talented is just so rare thats it's like being Mick O' Leary/Bill Gates/Larry Ellisson etc in the business world.

gabgab

Of course they deserve the money.

Why?

The do something at a level, that very few people on a percentage basis can do. They are at an elite level, and as such DESERVE a fitting wage,

If you can do something, and people that are influential in that field, believe that you're in a different class, relative to the people that are in that field, and if it is a profitable industry, you DESERVE to be paid accordingly

Terry

whiskey&rum wrote: »

Fcukin Plonker!

Banned.

funk-you

Terry wrote: »

Banned.

See, Terry desevbes all the coke and hookers he gets for modding AH.

-Funk

AngryBadger

No, I work just as hard

Enlil_Nick wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

Agreed so why are they being excluded? From a purely capitalist point of view it's hard to argue against what they make, but do they "deserve" it, I don't think so.

colly10

No, I work just as hard

AngryBadger wrote: »

They get paid exorbitant amounts for not very difficult work?

Agreed so why are they being excluded? From a purely capitalist point of view it's hard to argue against what they make, but do they "deserve" it, I don't think so.

What exactly is not difficult about it?

AngryBadger

No, I work just as hard

colly10 wrote: »

What exactly is not difficult about it?

EDIT: Completely misread your post, maybe I'm still drunk. Better go and see if the new analyst still has a lovely arse

burgess1

Depends what job they do and whether or not the actually earn it.

conorod

No, I work just as hard

It depends, if they work for it they deserve it, e.g. doctors.

jesus_thats_gre

No, I work just as hard

This is quite the pathetic thread.