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Citzenship and Marriage

  • 29-06-2008 1:57pm
    #1
    rflynn2005
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭


    Hi All,

    I have been with my girlfriend now for 6 years. She is from New York and is a US Citizen and I am Irish. We are looking to get Married but have heard many different answers about getting married in a registry office and its all a bit confusing. We want to be together and I have been told by some that I need a Fiance Visa first before I can enter the states ad get married in the town hall. Others say just get married and then do the paperwork after. I really need some help here and if anyone can shed some light on their experiences or even what the laws or reguations are I would be really grateful.

    Thanks,


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  • #2
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,495 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Its rather complicated as you need to deal with American and Irish / EU immigration law and Irish / whatever state marriage law.

    Best person to talk to would be an immigration lawyer, gut check out the following links for the Irish side.

    http://www.gro.ie/
    http://www.oasis.gov.ie/


  • #3
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Victor wrote: »
    Its rather complicated as you need to deal with American and Irish / EU immigration law and Irish / whatever state marriage law.

    Best person to talk to would be an immigration lawyer, gut check out the following links for the Irish side.

    http://www.gro.ie/
    http://www.oasis.gov.ie/

    Or just get drunk and go to vegas, whichever.

    OP,what I would say is that seek legal advice in the country in which you wish to live, so if you plan to stay in the USA, speak to a US lawyer, and vice versa.


  • #4
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    If you want to live in Ireland, you will need to get married first (It doesn't matter where) and get your spouse registered at the GNIB. Job done. She can become a citizen after 3 years of marriage.

    If you want to move to the USA, it is a very different kettle of fish. Generally in that situation you would be best advised to seek advice from a US immigration lawyer before you get married. In some cases getting married first would cause a world of trouble with the US authorities.


  • #5
    Dandelion6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Dandelion6


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    In some cases getting married first would cause a world of trouble with the US authorities.

    Yes this is true. If you enter the US on a tourist visa (and entering under the visa waiver programme is equivalent for this purpose) effectively you have asserted an intent to spend your time there as a tourist, and leave afterward. If you enter as a tourist and then get married to a US citizen, they assume that you entered under false premises. That's considered visa fraud and the US authorities have been known to go after people for that.

    If you must enter as a tourist, at least make sure you talk to an immigration lawyer once you arrive.


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