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Garda receives 100 stitches after pitbull attack..

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  • 30-06-2008 5:18pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbqlqlqlid/rss2/

    Talk about tarring all dogs with the same brush -

    Got a knock on the dog today from the dog warden, "You've a Pitbull here, he's a restricted breed blah blah blah" - read me the law basically.

    Asked to see my licence, showed him it then was told all about the attack in Galway and how "they" (I guess he was talking about the guards) are "cracking down on Pits and Staffs now, so just be carefull"..

    I swear, thats the last time I give my dog a train ticket from Dublin to Galway again!.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    the dog done nothing wrong imo,he was protecting his master from intruders who were agressivly invading his house. pit bull or not doesnt make any difference the dog was doing its pack duty and protecting his master.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Mairt wrote: »
    Got a knock on the dog today from the dog warden

    He called to your house? How did he know you had a bull terrier?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭shinners007


    gosh calling to your house is a bit over the top isnt it! Just goes to show that some people out their are catergorising all dogs within certain breeds which is so unfair to responsible owners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    lightening wrote: »
    He called to your house? How did he know you had a bull terrier?


    How indeed!.

    We walk him all the time, so all the neighbours know him. And all love him except for one!..

    I'd never claim to be a genius but it doesn't take one to know somebody has been busy on the telephone!.

    And besides all that, we haven't broken any laws and the warden was at pains to point out the Pitbull attack on a cop in Galway :mad:

    When he went we were left wondering ~what was all that about :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Jesus, that is so frustrating. The amount of ill kept dogs around and the dog warden is checking up on a perfectly looked after, home checked, rescue animal because of one pesky nosy neighbour.

    I give up.


    Back to the poor Gard that got chewed up. I wonder how many times this has happened with non-bull breeds? I am pretty sure its happened a good few times, I mean strange large men in dark uniforms with loud voices marching through the dogs house. Its bound to happen at least once a year.

    I hope he recovers soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    Read the link, they were searching the house for illegal drugs. They're hardly going to do that with a polite knock on the door! Since it belonged to dealers I doubt it was a 'safe' animal to begin with.

    Certain dogs attract certain people, sometimes the guards end up stepping on other people toes in being proactive. He took all of what, five minutes of your time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Vinnie K


    Anybody know if it was actually a pitbull?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Read the link, they were searching the house for illegal drugs. They're hardly going to do that with a polite knock on the door!

    I did read the link, it still doesn't mean they can't take precautions, surely they had intelligence about the house and that it had dogs. As for the warden taking up five minutes of Mairt's time, I would rather he took up five minutes of someone's time who was treating dogs badly to be honest. Not driving out to someone's to tell them a terrier bit a cop in Galway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    Read the link, they were searching the house for illegal drugs. They're hardly going to do that with a polite knock on the door! Since it belonged to dealers I doubt it was a 'safe' animal to begin with.

    Certain dogs attract certain people, sometimes the guards end up stepping on other people toes in being proactive. He took all of what, five minutes of your time?
    so if you own a pit your a suspect drug dealer? certain dogs,certain people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    if the cops had been armed robbers that dog would have being hailed a hero. and as far as i know a dog cant tell the difference between a cops uniform and a robbers one!
    that dog did nothing wrong imo,but it and its breed are being portrayed as gang members.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭bernard0368


    In fairness if the Garda were doing their job right they should have been aware of the risks before they raided the house "look before you leap" comes to mind.
    The dog was only doing whats in its nature by protecting the pack.
    The garda really only have themselves to blame thats what a risk assessment is for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    I prob get lambasted for saying this, but do pits not have a lock jaw mechanism that when they bite, their bites can be extremly more vicous than other dogs?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    stevoman wrote: »
    I prob get lambasted for saying this

    You won't...

    I think its a bit of an old wives tale. They certainly have an extremely strong bite, and with bull and terrier breeds as part of their make up, they are probably less likely to let go of something than say a labrador which would have a much softer mouth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    they have much stronger bite then most dogs but that doesnt mean that the dog was in the wrong to protect his master from attack.
    the dog cant be blamed for his master being a drug dealing scumbag or for not knowing the difference between a cop and a robber.
    i think if we could find the stats on dog bites pits would make up less of the attackers then other breeds, just that because of their strength of law they can do more damage.
    there was an article in the paper during the year about a boy savaged by a labrador, no call for labs to be banned or no one calling labradors devil dogs etc...
    the problem with pits is that some eejits use them as fashion accesseries to look tough and they havent a clue about socialising the dog they encourage aggressive behaviour. they're the problem not the breed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 SSS1111


    there was one pitbull (bull)and 1 staff(anfi) the staff was a bitch having pupps stupid cops least he can retire now icon6.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    whitser wrote: »
    there was an article in the paper during the year about a boy savaged by a labrador, no call for labs to be banned or no one calling labradors devil dogs etc...
    .
    good point, i have 26 stitches in the my head from a golden retreiver i bit when i was 5 years old!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 201 ✭✭Rodney Trotter


    The dog that savaged the Garda should be destroyed immediately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Funny that someone should mention Labs, my god is receiving treatment for two wounds after being attacked by a neighbours Lab!.

    But people love scandal and the bull breeds get it in the neck for people's ignorance.

    I was in work last night and mentioned the warden to the lads... One piped up and asked what kind of dog I had, when I told him his reaction was...

    "Jesus, I hate those things" .. "Oh, you had one?" (says I).

    "NOWAY"... "You know someone with one?" (me again) "NO"...

    "Where you attacked by one?" - "NO, BUT THEIR SAVAGES. I READ ALL ABOUT THEM IN THE PAPERS"..

    "Do you have a dog even?" .. say's I.. "Yea two mutts" ...

    "Licenced?" (me) - "NO, I don't need a licence for a mutt" :rolleyes:

    Go figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    The dog that savaged the Garda should be destroyed immediately.

    It was.

    But why do you say that anyway?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    The dog that savaged the Garda should be destroyed KILLED immediately.


    There, isn't that what you really mean?.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    The dog that savaged the Garda should be destroyed immediately.
    cos it was a garda?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 201 ✭✭Rodney Trotter


    Mairt wrote: »
    It was.

    But why do you say that anyway?.

    Any animal that is capable of doing such damage should be under strict control and should be prevented from inflicting such damage on a human being.

    Any animal that does such damage to a human being should be destroyed.

    (It is patently clear from some posts that some contributors hold the savage dog in higher esteem that a member of the Gardai. A sad indictment on those people.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Any animal that is capable of doing such damage should be under strict control and should be prevented from inflicting such damage on a human being.

    Any animal that does such damage to a human being should be destroyed.

    (It is patently clear from some posts that some contributors hold the savage dog in higher esteem that a member of the Gardai. A sad indictment on those people.)

    I see.

    Ok, I work in the same army barracks where the army's equitation school is based.

    I've seen horrible injuries inflicted on the staff from horse bites and kicks, should those horse's be killed too?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    the dog was protecting his home and master from intruders. as i said if they were armed robbers the dog would be hailed as a hero. he doesnt know the difference between a cop and a robber.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭event


    In fairness if the Garda were doing their job right they should have been aware of the risks before they raided the house "look before you leap" comes to mind.
    The dog was only doing whats in its nature by protecting the pack.
    The garda really only have themselves to blame thats what a risk assessment is for.

    it almost sounds as if you are saying the guard deserved it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    Any animal that is capable of doing such damage should be under strict control and should be prevented from inflicting such damage on a human being.

    Any animal that does such damage to a human being should be destroyed.

    (It is patently clear from some posts that some contributors hold the savage dog in higher esteem that a member of the Gardai. A sad indictment on those people.)
    to say we hold a savage dog in higher esteem then a garda shows that the dog was only put down because he bit a garda, not because he bit an intruder. as i keep saying dogs dont recognise garda uniforms,therefore imo the dog did no wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭whitser


    event wrote: »
    it almost sounds as if you are saying the guard deserved it?
    no one saying the garda deserved that, but does the dog deserve to be put down for couragesly protecting his master and home from intruders?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭XxlauraxX


    stevoman wrote: »
    I prob get lambasted for saying this, but do pits not have a lock jaw mechanism that when they bite, their bites can be extremly more vicous than other dogs?

    yea i think there jaw is is a lot wider than most dogs so there bite can be worse, well thats just what i heard!


    "When a dog warden was sent to the address yesterday, a second garda accompanying him was also bitten, suffering minor injuries to his leg."

    how funny is it that the garda got bitten and not the trained dog warden the gards should not be allowed near these dogs if they are not experienced!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 201 ✭✭Rodney Trotter


    whitser wrote: »
    ................ imo the dog did no wrong.


    An absolutely ridiculous post.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Limerick91


    Any dog that attacks a human should be put down.

    These dogs are not the police force.

    Are you waiting for one of the incidents like what happened in the UK where kids were killed by dogs.

    Maybe you would like to give them dogs medals for protecting their masters


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