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Minister announces new firearms laws on the way for handguns

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    #122
    meathstevie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,772 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Why does a judge quote UK law ? When he can't find the right stick to beat the wrong dog in the local law... . I wonder if we hired a barrister if he could quote Neveda or Texas state law ?


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    #123
    IRLConor
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    meathstevie wrote: »
    Why does a judge quote UK law ? When he can't find the right stick to beat the wrong dog in the local law... . I wonder if we hired a barrister if he could quote Neveda or Texas state law ?

    They quote UK case law because there's a lot in common between our two systems. Some UK law is still law here (the Explosives Act 1875 for example) and the reasoning used in some cases in the UK is often applicable here.


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    #124
    kowloon
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    I would imagine if they banned pistols they could cause a bigger problem.
    What happens to the thousands of rounds and few pistols that get "lost"?
    Surely just one untraceable pistol is of more concern than the ones in the system.


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    #125
    Sparks
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    kowloon wrote:
    What happens to the thousands of rounds and few pistols that get "lost"?
    Nothing. Now their owners would probably find it hard to ever get a licence for anything else ever again. They'd probably wind up hearing from the super in the district court if they challanged this, that if they can lose a firearm and a few hundred rounds of ammunition once (despite having safes and alarms and guncases and so on), then it'd be unsafe to give them another. And it'd be hard to argue with that.


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    #126
    Sparks
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    Interesting story in the Herald:
    Operation Anvil sees 1,700 gun seizures
    By Clodagh Sheehy
    Monday July 14 2008

    Almost 1,700 guns have been seized by gardai under Operation Anvil.

    In Dublin alone, 906 firearms have been seized up to June 1 of this year and a further 734 have been lifted outside the Dublin Metropolitan Region, according to figures released by the Department of Justice.

    Gardai regularly send details of the gangs' operations to Europol and also exchange information and intelligence on Irish criminals living abroad.

    "This ongoing liaison has led to a number of successful joint operations targeting the attempted importations of drugs and firearms," said Justice Minister Dermot Ahern.

    "It has resulted in a number of significant arrests here and in other jurisdictions."

    There are Garda Liaison Officers in the Hague, London, Paris, Madrid, Europol and Interpol to help with international aspects of garda investigations and to help other agencies investigate crimes involving Irish nationals.

    It's interesting because how can 1700 pistols licenced to civilians be such a problem if a single Garda operation can net that many confiscated from actual criminal hands?


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    #127
    Grizzly 45
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    Mmmmmm,And in the Indo today there is an article saying that the detection of "gun crime" in the last 3 years is below 20%.Lumped figure of murder,armed assault,drivebys etc.
    So what is the true story here??Maybe they are just trying ,to be sure to be sure.:(:(

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    #128
    fishdog
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    Irish Times today said gun crime is has been going down since 2004 :)


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    IRLConor
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    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Mmmmmm,And in the Indo today there is an article saying that the detection of "gun crime" in the last 3 years is below 20%.Lumped figure of murder,armed assault,drivebys etc.
    So what is the true story here??Maybe they are just trying ,to be sure to be sure.:(:(

    I suspect that the true story is that there are no properly vetted, reliable statistics on gun crime or even a solid definition of what "gun crime" means. This gives everyone on all sides carte blanche to make up their own conclusions based on the patchy, ill-defined statistics that are available.


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