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All aboard the atheist bus

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Pretty much the same as you call a child with a religion I would have thought :)

    Just less Marys!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    I'm sure there is a word for when you're a smug prat and think you've outsmarted and out-thought the opposition, only to make your opponents point in a way so much better than they could have done ...

    So from the Telegraph:

    Children on atheist billboards 'are actually Evangelical Christians'

    But the campaign appears to have backfired after a Christian community leader said that the models pictured in the poster were from a family of committed Christians whose images had been taken from a stock photo.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/6617859/Children-on-atheist-billboards-are-actually-Evangelical-Christians.html

    So their clever response to an ad which asks people to consider whether it is right to classify and define children using religious labels, is an article whose headline defines children using using a religious label. And somehow this means the poster has 'backfired'.

    How much further could you miss the poster's point by?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    This billboard ad has a bit too much Dawkins in it for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    pH wrote: »

    So from the Telegraph:

    Children on atheist billboards 'are actually Evangelical Christians'

    I just object to the labelling of billboards.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Children on atheist billboards 'are actually Evangelical Christians'
    Seems to me they couldn't have chosen a better kid for the ad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    pH wrote: »
    So from the Telegraph:

    The tabloid thicko's won't know any better, they have a religion to dedicate themselves to and horoscopes to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Would imagine its most relevant in Belfast. Should have put them in Derry/Portadown too.

    Where the hell were you in 1969 Richard?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    The tabloid thicko's.

    But the Daily Telegraph is a broadsheet not a tabloid. In the same way as the Sunday independent is.....Oh nevermind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Another interesting article on the billboards issue by George Pitcher. It's good to get a perspective of how theists are regarding this.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/georgepitcher/6611937/What-exactly-are-atheists-so-scared-about.html

    The only group who seem to have affirmed the message of the BHA on this one is the Evangelical Alliance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Jakkass wrote: »
    Another interesting article on the billboards issue by George Pitcher. It's good to get a perspective of how theists are regarding this.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/georgepitcher/6611937/What-exactly-are-atheists-so-scared-about.html
    Godwin'ed in 4 lines, impressive:
    As I was leaving church yesterday, a nice chap called Andy called to see if I would go on Radio 2 to talk about a new billboard campaign enjoining us not to "label" our children with religious tags such as "Catholic child" or "Muslim child". Beside pictures of bonny toddlers (all white, as it happens), runs the tagline: "Let me grow up and decide for myself."
    You may remember its genius: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." The best that can be said for it is that it got people talking about God.
    *Whooosh!*

    I wouldn't call that interesting in the slightest Jakkass. It's just an article full of ad-hominem, paranoid nonsense from someone whom the whole point of the campaign has clearly been lost on.

    He tries to claim, for example that it's not possible to indoctrinate a child because they'll forget all about it by the time they're teenagers. Again, point completely missed (and he's completely incorrect).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    It started off with a good Jewish joke:
    It's like that old joke about the Jewish mother: "Help! Help! My son, the doctor, is drowning!"

    but quickly decended into paranoid rambling:
    The world view of the anti-religion militants, unfortunately, is that one of us has to go. They really think, paradoxically enough, that this is their Armageddon: the forces of religious evil must be swept from the public sphere, to be replaced with a new hegemony of secularism and atheism, which from their mouths sounds remarkably fundamentalist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    But the Daily Telegraph is a broadsheet not a tabloid. In the same way as the Sunday independent is.....Oh nevermind

    Meh, all newspapers are just social commentary anyways.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    TV comedy writer Ariane Sherine does, so she wrote an amusing article for The Guardian suggesting that atheists club together and pay for their own.
    Ten years on, Ariana Sherine has been up and down, but mostly down. Here's a blog post of hers from yesterday:

    http://arianesherine.blogspot.ie/2018/04/when-nobody-cares.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    robindch wrote: »
    Ten years on, Ariana Sherine has been up and down, but mostly down. Here's a blog post of hers from yesterday:

    http://arianesherine.blogspot.ie/2018/04/when-nobody-cares.html
    Still using the old photo.


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