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RIP - Rest in Peace

ShoulderChip · 2008-07-09 16:44:55

Can anyone think of an atheist alternative phrase?

09-07-2008 4:44pm

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Can anyone think of an atheist alternative phrase?

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#2 09-07-2008 4:46pm

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Relax In Pudding.....?!

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#3 09-07-2008 4:48pm

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See from post 109 onward in this recent tangential discussion...

R.I.P. suits non-believers perfectly!

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#4 09-07-2008 5:22pm

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What's wrong with "Rest in Peace", it's a very common figure of speech, while it does have a Christian origin it has its own meaning now, part sadness, part regret at the loss, part consoling.

It's Christians who really should consider finding a new phrase, as, in a religious context its original meaning was that the soul should rest in peace (rather than in torment) until judgement day. However most Christians today believe that the soul/person in judged immediately, making RIP just as wrong for a Christian and an atheist (going by its original meaning).

But for all of us RIP is now a figure of speech, used as condolence or to express regret as someone's passing and respect.

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#5 09-07-2008 6:02pm

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It's just RIP, who cares?

If you really are bothered, just use another term such as 'I feel for his family', 'It's a sad loss for x', or 'He wil be missed'.

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#6 10-07-2008 12:24am

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I usually use different phrases in such circumstances because RIP seems kind of trite, but have no objection to it. It's just another religious phrase that has worked its way into our parlance.

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#7 10-07-2008 1:01am

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pH wrote: »

What's wrong with "Rest in Peace", it's a very common figure of speech, while it does have a Christian origin it has its own meaning now, part sadness, part regret at the loss, part consoling.

It's Christians who really should consider finding a new phrase, as, in a religious context its original meaning was that the soul should rest in peace (rather than in torment) until judgement day. However most Christians today believe that the soul/person in judged immediately, making RIP just as wrong for a Christian and an atheist (going by its original meaning).

But for all of us RIP is now a figure of speech, used as condolence or to express regret as someone's passing and respect.

RIP actually stands for requiescat in pace, but by a happy coincidence our English translation shares the same initials as the Latin.

It is a Roman Catholic prayer and something that non-Catholics, if they were consistent in their beliefs, would never use, since we do not believe in praying for the dead.

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#8 10-07-2008 8:33am

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PDN wrote: »

It is a Roman Catholic prayer and something that non-Catholics, if they were consistent in their beliefs, would never use, since we do not believe in praying for the dead.

Interesting. Is that because only RCs believe in limbo?

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#9 10-07-2008 8:36am

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Dades wrote: »

Interesting. Is that because only RCs believe in limbo?

Purgatory.

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#10 10-07-2008 8:44am

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Ah yes, that would be the one.

Either there or Dublin Airport at the moment.

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#11 10-07-2008 9:05am

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could be rat infested prick, if you didn't like the person

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#12 10-07-2008 9:36am

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PDN wrote: »

It is a Roman Catholic prayer and something that non-Catholics, if they were consistent in their beliefs, would never use, since we do not believe in praying for the dead.

Well, requiescat appears in the subjunctive/optative, indicating an undirected wish, rather than a specific request to a deity or anything else, so you should not be imperilled by using the initials.

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#13 10-07-2008 9:40am

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#14 10-07-2008 10:42am

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Remember In Perpetuum

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#15 10-07-2008 11:51am

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"Rising in Price"

... it is land after all.

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#16 10-07-2008 2:10pm

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You could have a nice little poem like this one:

http://flickr.com/photos/11146069@N00/2471034806

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#17 11-07-2008 5:37am

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so what does 'requiescat in pace' mean?

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#18 11-07-2008 7:06am

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lostexpectation wrote: »

so what does 'requiescat in pace' mean?

"May he/she rest in peace"

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#19 11-07-2008 4:40pm

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I don't feel the need to find atheistic alternatives for anything like that. I often go to weddings/funerals/christenings and I take part in all the chanting, etc. I do so because I realise the occasion is about the people who are at the alter, not my personal beliefs or some sky monster.

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#20 12-07-2008 9:11pm

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"Rotting In Progress"

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Scofflaw

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#21 12-07-2008 9:17pm

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#22 12-07-2008 11:02pm

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robindch wrote: »

"May he/she rest in peace"

so its not particularly religious like the guy said.

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#23 13-07-2008 1:07pm

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"C'ya"

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