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Sick of the Media - British/Spainish etc.

  • 10-07-2008 10:41am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭


    They ruin our game , with their rumours, stupid stories, they are professional crap stirrers.

    Its about time people revolted against this crap.

    Ronaldo Saga
    Beckham Saga from a few seasons ago.
    Barry to Liverpool Saga.
    Sepp Blatter
    Platini
    Carlos Quieroz to Portugal
    Ronaldinho to Man City
    Ronaldinho to Milan
    Ronaldinho to Inter
    Adebayor to Milan
    Adebayor to Barca
    Hleb supposedly to Barca
    Hleb supposedly backmouthing Arsene (which Hleb stated as rubbish)
    Torres to Chelsea for 50 Million
    Villa to Liverpool

    The list goes on and on. I for one am sick to my eye balls of reading this crap and rubbish. I stopped buying newspapers a long time ago because of this. Does it infuriate you the fan having to read this, watch it on Sky News or Setanta Sports, having to hear about Marca or AS in Spain. We buy in to this crap continually , all I want from my team is to have a good side that plays nice football and wins trophies.

    This constant crap that surrounds football is dragging the game down. In the old days for example decisions were made in a game that may have been wrong , but now we have pundits on British satellite channels, harping about decisions ref's make time and time again , then the newspapers blow it out porportion , its down right sickening.

    What other sport does this happen in, Rugby, Cricket, Hurling, GAA footie no it doesnt?

    In essence, is anyone of the same crazy opinion of me, apologies for the rant , but I had to vent on this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its show-biz baby and we'd have nothing too talk about from the third week of May until the first week of August without it. Unless EL is your bag.

    Mike.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    I just watch the football when it's on tv, football tv shows and newspaper segments are a bit like big brothers little brother to me... i don't quite understand the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭Chong


    Ya Mike maybe I should get into EL, I dont think Limerick are in the EL maybe I should start heading up to Jackman park more often though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    in fairness Van, the majority of examples you quoted above are not "rumours" they are happenings in the game at the minute, newspapers report on it cause people are interested in it. if they werent, they wouldnt.

    and if you arent, dont read em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    fantastic name!
    ...
    On topic, i have noticed this years rumours and stories are lazier then ever, highlight being every paper quoting things villa said over a year before hand, trying to force a story where none exists.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭Chong


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    in fairness Van, the majority of examples you quoted above are not "rumours" they are happenings in the game at the minute, newspapers report on it cause people are interested in it. if they werent, they wouldnt.

    and if you arent, dont read em.
    Are we interested in it though Al, is it not forced down upon us , in turn we buy the newspapers they sell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Its been a very slow transfer summer tbh with few deal going through. The meeeeeeja will fill the void with junk, and they get paid for it.

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Blackhorse Slim


    Van Zuylen wrote: »
    Are we interested in it though Al, is it not forced down upon us , in turn we buy the newspapers they sell?

    Don't buy the newspapers then. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    But we're the reason this all exists. We buy the newspapers, watch Sky etc. It's supply and demand.
    I mean, it is going to wreck your head at times when they try so hard to fill space by making sh!t up or just needless pointless stories. I remember a few days after Eduardo broke his leg and The S*n had a picture of Martin Taylor at training. He was going for the ball inoocently, his leg was in the air, but he wasn't flying into the tackle or anything. It was just a second in time that was caught on camera. Absolutely nothing to it. Yet, the rag had this picture as an exclusive with the headline that read something like 'As Eduadro lays in hospital, his leg shattered.....and Taylor still hasn't learned his lesson'.
    You read that and you think.......why do you exist? There is absolutely no benefit to that and i've learned nothing.
    To be honest, it's almost like celebrity gossip. If i was to buy a red top, it'd probably just be The Mirror, especially if Liverpool have had a great win the night before. Usually though, i just tend to read the Guardian and have a look at the backpages of all the red tops while in the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    Well it is crazy season! I don't buy papers either, just check the web for transfers, but a lot of that is re-hashed from the papers anyways.
    But we do like to read what players our club have been linked to


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,677 ✭✭✭Chong


    monkey9 wrote: »
    But we're the reason this all exists. We buy the newspapers, watch Sky etc. It's supply and demand.
    I mean, it is going to wreck your head at times when they try so hard to fill space by making sh!t up or just needless pointless stories. I remember a few days after Eduardo broke his leg and The S*n had a picture of Martin Taylor at training. He was going for the ball inoocently, his leg was in the air, but he wasn't flying into the tackle or anything. It was just a second in time that was caught on camera. Absolutely nothing to it. Yet, the rag had this picture as an exclusive with the headline that read something like 'As Eduadro lays in hospital, his leg shattered.....and Taylor still hasn't learned his lesson'.
    You read that and you think.......why do you exist? There is absolutely no benefit to that and i've learned nothing.
    To be honest, it's almost like celebrity gossip. If i was to buy a red top, it'd probably just be The Mirror, especially if Liverpool have had a great win the night before. Usually though, i just tend to read the Guardian and have a look at the backpages of all the red tops while in the shop.
    This is exactly what I am talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭--amadeus--


    I was once given a book as a present that has newspaper reports on LFC going from the 1990's back to the early 1900's. It is amazing to look at how teh coverage of the game and the space it gets has changed. Back in the 20's as much space was given to the days dog racing results as the football and even after WW II First Division match reports were rarely more than a couple of paragraphs. Now every single paper has pages and pages of football coverage every day, even in close season. All that space has to be filled so non-stories get in depth coverage. Back even 10 or 15 years ago the only sport in the paper over the summer would be GAA or cricket / tennis (depending on the paper you buy), and only genuine news like a transfer that had actually happened was given space.

    Ahh, nostalgia :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Pure Cork


    Van Zuylen wrote: »
    Ya Mike maybe I should get into EL, I dont think Limerick are in the EL maybe I should start heading up to Jackman park more often though.

    Limerick 37 play in the first division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    The only newspaper coverage of football that I usually read is from the Irish Times. I think that's fine as they report on the big stories and rumours are usually left alone or treated as just rumours

    But whenever I read a tabloid it wrecks my head. A full page story based on a quote that's been exaggerated. A rumour treated as if it's fact. Overreaction all over the place. Repetition everywhere as well

    My view is that it's simply the tabloid media that's "ruining the game". TV and radio coverage, magazines, broadsheets, they're all fine by me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,393 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I never watch Sky Sports News or more like 'English Premier League Propaganda News'.
    Appalling channel trying to brainwash people and reporting mundane and trivial matters as if they were ground breaking.
    Rooney has a new tattoo, David Beckham has a new underpants ,Rio Ferdinand wants to be an actor when he retires from football ,etc etc.
    I feel sad for the newsreaders who have to regurgitate the same hokey pokey every 30 minutes.
    I dont give a damn about the personal lives of most footballers because most of them have compost for brains.
    I'm interested in what they do on the pitch ,how they train,their technique and thats about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    I've never had sly sports in the gaf as i never wanted to contribute to Murdochs already overloaded pockets but now that i have the Super box i cant believe the pathetic standard of reporting on sly sports and set*nta.It really is down to lazy journalisim on the channels behalf and i guess a need to fill the hours of the day they are on air.The constant hype of the media about the prem league being the "worlds best and most exciting league blah blah blah" really is unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    I never watch Sky Sports News or more like 'English Premier League Propaganda News'.
    Appalling channel trying to brainwash people and reporting mundane and trivial matters as if they were ground breaking.
    Rooney has a new tattoo, David Beckham has a new underpants ,Rio Ferdinand wants to be an actor when he retires from football ,etc etc.
    I feel sad for the newsreaders who have to regurgitate the same hokey pokey every 30 minutes.
    I dont give a damn about the personal lives of most footballers because most of them have compost for brains.
    I'm interested in what they do on the pitch ,how they train,their technique and thats about it.

    Plenty of footballers are smart, but they're unwilling or unable to express it.

    I don't want this to sound in some way elitist or whatever, so keep that in mind.

    Football in England in particular is perceived as a working class sport.

    As such it's treatment is the media always aims for the lowest common denominator. Thus stories are about how expensive Rooney's wedding was, and what was drunk, rather than an indepth discussion of the evolving tactical nuances of the English game.

    Simply put, the media assumes people won't bother if they're treated like intelligent people rather than morons. Moreover, there's a perception that an intellectual approach to football journalism would not sell papers, whereas making up transfer stories will.

    Not much one can do but avoid buying rags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    I feel sad for the newsreaders who have to regurgitate the same hokey pokey every 30 minutes.

    Some of the newsreaders are way too enthusiastic, it's like some of them have a gun to their head to beef up the bullsh!t stories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,393 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    Some of the newsreaders are way too enthusiastic, it's like some of them have a gun to their head to beef up the bullsh!t stories.

    You'd never know,I wouldnt put it past Murdoch.
    Certain enemies of his empire have disappeared without trace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I think you're not sick of the media, you're just sick of the tabloids producing garbage stories in order to sell papers. There's a simple solution to that: stop buying or reading the things!

    The comments from anonymous_joe about aiming for the lowest common denominator is also spot on. Never underestimate the amount of people out there who actually want to read about who was allegedly spotted leaving at John Lennon airport or, according to "a friend" is going house hunting in The Wirral :).

    It's the same reason that football coverage from BBC, Sky and ITV is so bad. Most people posting on here would agree that Jamie Redknapp, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright etc. are rubbish as analysts but the lowest common denominator doesn't want to debate the tactical merits of 4-4-2 against 4-2-3-1, they just want to be told that Steven Gerrard is a top, top player.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 759 ✭✭✭gixerfixer


    malice_ wrote: »
    I think you're not sick of the media, you're just sick of the tabloids producing garbage stories in order to sell papers. There's a simple solution to that: stop buying or reading the things!

    The comments from anonymous_joe about aiming for the lowest common denominator is also spot on. Never underestimate the amount of people out there who actually want to read about who was allegedly spotted leaving at John Lennon airport or, according to "a friend" is going house hunting in The Wirral :).

    It's the same reason that football coverage from BBC, Sky and ITV is so bad. Most people posting on here would agree that Jamie Redknapp, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright etc. are rubbish as analysts but the lowest common denominator doesn't want to debate the tactical merits of 4-4-2 against 4-2-3-1, they just want to be told that Steven Gerrard is a top, top player.

    Yeap.Agreed.We had a German fella staying with us as a student around the time of the 2006 world cup and he couldnt believe the lack of proper game analysis from the pundits on the TV and from the papers in general.He explained to me about how in Germany they actually talk about the game formations,tactics,systems etc..... and dont spend the whole programme talking about just what an amazing player Rooney (insert any overhyped England international here) is and how he has the world at his feet etc...Take shearer for example.England where playing a match(think it was Russia) and where of course getting played off the pitch at half time,shearer went on to say if he was the manager he would tell the players to go out there in the second half and "get stuck in,dont be afraid to put the boot in to a couple of their players":eek:.....I mean this guy is being mentioned as a possible manager of a premiership side in the future and he hasnt got a clue.Dont even get me started on that clown Redknapp.And then England wonder why they havent won anything in donkeys years:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭SectionF


    The footballing public gets the media it deserves, and the football media now has become little more than celebrity media.
    If you think the big EPL clubs and other European giants are blameless in this, think again. Their spin doctors are paid to keep the game in the public eye, even when there's no football.
    Lots of tabloid bashing and Irish Times worship here. The IT is just as guilty of hyping EPL as anyone else, with its Sunderland drivel and Planet Football nonsense, and, by and large, the tabloids provide far superior coverage of the game in Ireland.


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