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P2P (Bittorrent etc) configuration & use discussion...ongoing (Only place to post!)

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    #1052
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Is UPC blocking thepiratebay for anyone? I can only seem to connect to it if I encrypt my connection.

    Fine for me.. maybe your firewall or AntiVirus is blocking it?
    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    I just got wimax installed and i put on my torrnet program and there doesnt seem to be much happening.

    Can anyone advise? Is there something i can do to get the speeds working right?

    Im on 7 Meg speed.

    seeds:leechers is normal.

    speeds, 0.1 - 10.
    Is it a popular torrent? A few pages back, I think its vibe666 who lists some tester legal torrents, I'm using mobile now so can't check.. try that and see ur speeds..

    Also, what torrent program are you using?
    Download utorrent, update it, and test again.
    Check that your ports are open, and firewall AntiVirus is allowing connections.


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    #1053
    Eoin_Sheehy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Eoin_Sheehy


    If you possibly ever wanted to download a torrent on Eircom, what would the best option to hide my IP adrress be for FREE, this is hypothetically of course.


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    #1054
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    Eoin_Sheehy wrote: »
    If you possibly ever wanted to download a torrent on Eircom, what would the best option to hide my IP adrress be for FREE, this is hypothetically of course.
    Not possible.


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    #1055
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Jonathan wrote: »
    Not possible.

    It is possible, there are loads of bits of software to do it for you, google hide my ip. means your real ip will not be available to other users on torrents etc.


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    #1056
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    It is possible, there are loads of bits of software to do it for you, google hide my ip. means your real ip will not be available to other users on torrents etc.
    I think he means hidden from his isp, which is impossible..

    To hide your ip from everyone else, try Hotspot shield, I used to use it.


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    #1057
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    www.peerblock.com ??


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    #1058
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    It is possible, there are loads of bits of software to do it for you, google hide my ip. means your real ip will not be available to other users on torrents etc.
    If you hide your real IP, how do you expect to download anything? Your peers need a real IP address to send the torrent data to.
    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    I think he means hidden from his isp, which is impossible..

    To hide your ip from everyone else, try Hotspot shield, I used to use it.
    To hide your IP from your ISP is impossible. They assign you the IP.

    You can however create an encrypted link (VPN, SSH and the like) to an intermediary server and tunnel all your torrent traffic to that server. The IP of that server would then appear in the torrent swarm. Your ISP cannot detect what you are transmitting across their network other than transferring lots of encrypted data from your sever to your computer.

    Of course these severs are not free, and so no, it isn't possible to hide your IP on torrents for free.


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    #1059
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Jonathan wrote: »
    If you hide your real IP, how do you expect to download anything? Your peers need a real IP address to send the torrent data to.

    To hide your IP from your ISP is impossible. They assign you the IP.

    You can however create an encrypted link (VPN, SSH and the like) to an intermediary server and tunnel all your torrent traffic to that server. The IP of that server would then appear in the torrent swarm. Your ISP cannot detect what you are transmitting across their network other than transferring lots of encrypted data from your sever to your computer.

    Of course these severs are not free, and so no, it isn't possible to hide your IP on torrents for free.
    Most of the pieces of software create fake ips for you and your apps runs as normal as the software runs in the background


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    #1060
    Eoin_Sheehy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Eoin_Sheehy


    In the unlikely event of anyone knowing a free VPN or other software option then that'd be fantasic!

    Also how will Eircom be monitoring our torrent use, if you were to use a torrent that is?!


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    #1061
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    It is possible, there are loads of bits of software to do it for you, google hide my ip. means your real ip will not be available to other users on torrents etc.
    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Most of the pieces of software create fake ips for you and your apps runs as normal as the software runs in the background


    1) You cannot use these "Hide my IP" services with torrents.

    2) They don't create fake IP addresses, they are real IP addresses, and what you're downloading is simply relayed. I hand bob a message, I tell him to hand it to Anna. Anna never see's me, I never see Anna, yes through some magic the message goes from A, to B to C. I'm afraid you don't really know what you're talking about.


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    #1062
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Boston wrote: »
    1) You cannot use these "Hide my IP" services with torrents.

    2) They don't create fake IP addresses, they are real IP addresses, and what you're downloading is simply relayed. I hand bob a message, I tell him to hand it to Anna. Anna never see's me, I never see Anna, yes through some magic the message goes from A, to B to C. I'm afraid you don't really know what you're talking about.

    I suggest using a search engine and the terms "hide my ip downloading torrents" and then get back to me


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    #1063
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Sigh.

    Ok,

    "hide my ip downloading torrents" returned no results

    Without quotes we get

    This     talking about obfuscation. It doesn't hide you IP address, or fake it.

    Most of the other links talk about using proxy servers for anonymous surfing. Do you understand what a proxy is. In the scenario I described earlier, bob is my proxy. Programs such as "Fake my ip" simply interface with proxy services. You seem rather confused.

    Since you're so adamant that it is possible to hide ones IP address without using a proxy, please detail the programs and services you use.


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    #1064
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Boston wrote: »
    Sigh.

    Ok,

    "hide my ip downloading torrents" returned no results

    Without quotes we get

    This     talking about obfuscation. It doesn't hide you IP address, or fake it.

    Most of the other links talk about using proxy servers for anonymous surfing. Do you understand what a proxy is. In the scenario I described earlier, bob is my proxy. Programs such as "Fake my ip" simply interface with proxy services. You seem rather confused.

    Since you're so adamant that it is possible to hide ones IP address without using a proxy, please detail the programs and services you use.

    Yes I do understand what a proxy server is and how they run and are maintained as matter of fact. Also I did not say without using a proxy, most of the applications do use proxies and what this means regarding the topic of this thread, where the music companies will give Eircom an IP address for downloading illegal content, is that the IP address they will have is not yours!


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    #1065
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Yes I do understand what a proxy server is and how they run and are maintained as matter of fact. Also I did not say without using a proxy, most of the applications do use proxies and what this means regarding the topic of this thread, where the music companies will give Eircom an IP address for downloading illegal content, is that the IP address they will have is not yours!

    You have failed to provide details of what application you use to "fake" your IP address. You disagree with multiple people who've told you that there is no fake address, just proxy. When I explained to you how the system worked, you made a condescending reply and advised me to search again. When you say "most" instead of "all" you betray your own ignorance. Your inability to provide detailed examples to support you claims demonstrates the falseness of your proposition.


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    #1066
    Jonathan
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Also I did not say without using a proxy, most of the applications do use proxies and what this means regarding the topic of this thread, where the music companies will give Eircom an IP address for downloading illegal content, is that the IP address they will have is not yours!
    Why would music companies give an IP of a proxy server to Eircom?


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    #1067
    IrishTonyO
    Registered Users Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO


    Boston wrote: »
    You have failed to provide details of what application you use to "fake" your IP address. You disagree with multiple people who've told you that there is no fake address, just proxy. When I explained to you how the system worked, you made a condescending reply and advised me to search again. When you say "most" instead of "all" you betray your own ignorance. Your inability to provide detailed examples to support you claims demonstrates the falseness of your proposition.

    Ah well then since I "obviously do not know what I am talking about" and have "demonstrated the falseness of my proposition", not much point.
    Especially if you are too lazy to have either studied the area or to do some basic research.
    I said most, as most do use proxies, others use vpn, so in plain English for you, most means a majority of, not all.

    I will just leave it at this, they do work and in the case of the Eircom will stop the music industry having access to your IP. If you don't believe me fine.

    Here's a couple of sites to get you going.....

    https://torrentprivacy.com/
    http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/


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    #1068
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    IrishTonyO wrote: »

    https://torrentprivacy.com/
    http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

    First link is exactly the scenario Myself and Jonathan described. It represents bob in the above scenario.

    Second link is to peer guardian. This program does not hide your IP address, it filters connections to use based on a blacklist of IP addresses.

    You used neither service to hide your IP address while torrenting. I've asked your several times to link to the applications you use. Put your money where your mouth is.


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    #1069
    Eoin_Sheehy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Eoin_Sheehy


    IrishTonyO wrote: »
    Ah well then since I "obviously do not know what I am talking about" and have "demonstrated the falseness of my proposition", not much point.
    Especially if you are too lazy to have either studied the area or to do some basic research.
    I said most, as most do use proxies, others use vpn, so in plain English for you, most means a majority of, not all.

    I will just leave it at this, they do work and in the case of the Eircom will stop the music industry having access to your IP. If you don't believe me fine.

    Here's a couple of sites to get you going.....

    https://torrentprivacy.com/
    http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

    There's also http://www.peerblock.com/

    I'm just curious though will PeerGuardian and what not, work to stop Eircom?


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    #1070
    Boston
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Again, that application will not hide your IP.


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    #1071
    Maldini2706
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Maldini2706


    Deleted User wrote: »
    AFAIK Imagine throttle torrents.

    Is there any way around this? and would it have an effect on browser performance? I've had the same problem as the previous poster but I'm also getting pages not loading fully and sometimes not at all.


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    #1072
    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    Imagine are not made for downloading, they are purely for browsing, cancle it.


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    #1073
    Maldini2706
    Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Maldini2706


    Darksaga87 wrote: »
    Imagine are not made for downloading, they are purely for browsing, cancle it.

    I'm only two months in, can you do that? If so where should I go?

    UPC aren't available here, when are Eircom's improved speeds coming?


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    #1074
    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    Cancle due to technical fault. I'm with eircom, they aren't as bad as they used to be.


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    #1075
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Think this is what yous are looking for http://btguard.com/

    It does cost $6.95 a month but it does actually make your torrent transfers anonymous.

    But it still think yous should grow up and dump torrents, Newsgroups + SSL FTW.


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    #1076
    Darksaga87
    Registered Users Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭Darksaga87


    cisk wrote: »
    But it still think yous should grow up and dump torrents, Newsgroups + SSL FTW.


    Never heard of that. Fill me in on the info?


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    #1077
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

    You would pay about €7 for a pay news server, that gets you full speed downloads, encrypted tunnel, your only Downloading and not uploading like with torrents which if you get caught will land you in more serious trouble as your also distributing.

    Never looked back when i got on board 2 years ago. Truly the internets best kept secret.


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    #1078
    _Whimsical_
    Registered Users Posts: 7,953 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    cisk wrote: »
    Think this is what yous are looking for http://btguard.com/

    It does cost $6.95 a month but it does actually make your torrent transfers anonymous.

    Have you or anyone else used this ?
    It seems to be based in the US and Canada and there are mixed reviews online.

    Would using a seedbox to download torrents not stop your IP being detected when downloading from them? Can you transfer files from them via ftp or something like that?Or am I missing something ?

    Newsgroups are great but unless you use NZB files it really isn't as easy or idiot proof as using torrents. I couldn't find as much of what I wanted to download with them either.That might be just me though. I don't claim to be much of a "techie" type.


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    #1079
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    cisk wrote: »
    http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

    You would pay about €7 for a pay news server, that gets you full speed downloads, encrypted tunnel, your only Downloading and not uploading like with torrents which if you get caught will land you in more serious trouble as your also distributing.

    Never looked back when i got on board 2 years ago. Truly the internets best kept secret.
    Cisk thanks for this, can you please elaborate? How does downloading from Newgroups differ from Torrents or Rapidshare? In terms of searching for files and knowing which ones are the right ones etc?


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    #1080
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Zascar wrote: »
    Cisk thanks for this, can you please elaborate? How does downloading from Newgroups differ from Torrents or Rapidshare? In terms of searching for files and knowing which ones are the right ones etc?
    First, with newsgroups - odds are you'll be maxing out your connection. The fact that you won't be uploading means no worries about distribution charges and also wave byebye to worrying about maintaining a ratio. In terms of searching, sites like Newzbin (RIP ?), NZBmatrix.com, and binsearch.info provide handy search interfaces for finding what you want. Some require a fee ($10 for lifetime membership on Nzbmatrix) and some are free.


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    #1081
    _Whimsical_
    Registered Users Posts: 7,953 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    There is not as wide a selection as you have with torrents however and there are less comments indicating whether what your downloading is the real deal or not. If you just want the latest films and popular tv shows it's fine though.

    Sometimese news servers offer a two week free trial so it might be worth looking for an offer like that and giving it a go before you decide to buy.


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