Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

meditraitor

sweetie wrote: »

if robinho goes to chelsea would joe cole be surplus? Can't see them letting him move to anfield tho.

Nice thought.Classy player :pac:

Karmafaerie

sweetie wrote: »

if robinho goes to chelsea would joe cole be surplus? Can't see them letting him move to anfield tho.

As good as he is, I'd just hate him in a red jersey!
He's just not a nice person.

Remember when he refused to let some of the English team, like Crouch watch the Istanbul final, cause he thought that heshould be in it.
They were on tour in America, and he insisted on them going for a walk and not watching cause he ws so bitter.

I just can't stand the guy.

missingtime

Karmafaerie wrote: »

He's just not a nice person.

Remember when he refused to let some of the English team, like Crouch watch the Istanbul final, cause he thought that he should be in it.
They were on tour in America, and he insisted on them going for a walk and not watching cause he ws so bitter.

I just can't stand the guy.

I have a thing against him too. There is an air of wanker about him

zing

Jordy Brouwer to go on loan fo the season with Utrecht

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3949986,00.html

A good move for him. Never been sure about him and hopefully he'll get some 1st action and we'll see if he's able to make the step up

ibh

Karmafaerie wrote: »

As good as he is, I'd just hate him in a red jersey!
He's just not a nice person.

Remember when he refused to let some of the English team, like Crouch watch the Istanbul final, cause he thought that heshould be in it.
They were on tour in America, and he insisted on them going for a walk and not watching cause he ws so bitter.

I just can't stand the guy.

I never heard that before.
I heard him and Lampard and Terry just couldn't bear to watch it. I'm pretty sure Michael Owen said he watched it with England team???

rosboy

zing wrote: »

Jordy Brouwer to go on loan fo the season with Utrecht

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3949986,00.html

A good move for him. Never been sure about him and hopefully he'll get some 1st action and we'll see if he's able to make the step up

From what I've see of Brouwer in the reserves I haven't been too impressed. I'm guessing Rafa feels the same way (he's giving the younger, 17, and Nemeth, 19, chances in preseason, but not the older Brouwer, 20). Maybe with some competitive first team football he might progress.

Jesus Wept

missingtime wrote: »

What was he wearing?

Leather Chaps Don't recall.

flanzer

PHB wrote: »

Whatever ever happend to Guilemes english speaking player who isn't English?

Keano!! Keano!!

Edit: Sorry my browser wasn't refreshed when I posted that! I'm sure you all know who Rafa's nice surprise was by now!

DeadSkin

Karmafaerie wrote: »

As good as he is, I'd just hate him in a red jersey!
He's just not a nice person.

Remember when he refused to let some of the English team, like Crouch watch the Istanbul final, cause he thought that heshould be in it.
They were on tour in America, and he insisted on them going for a walk and not watching cause he ws so bitter.

I just can't stand the guy.

How could he have that much influence on not allowing them watch the final?
One thing I don't like about him is he usually bags a goal against us.
It wouldn't bother me if he were in a red jersey if he helped us push closer to the Prem title tho'.

Karmafaerie

DeadSkin wrote: »

How could he have that much influence on not allowing them watch the final?
One thing I don't like about him is he usually bags a goal against us.
It wouldn't bother me if he were in a red jersey if he helped us push closer to the Prem title tho'.

Maybe allow isn't the right word.
He compained so much that a few of the team eventually left with him.
While the rest of the squad were watching at the hotel, Cole complained and eventually Crouch and a few others agreed to go to town with him.
When they heard what was happening in th second half, they all rushed into a sports bar to watch, but even them Cole sat outside and refused to watch.

Crouch said all this in an interview after he signed for us.

Cole was so bitter about loosing, that he wouldn't watch the match.

mike65

http://www.justin.tv/live24

Team for tonight

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Reina
Arbeloa-Carra-Agger-Dossena

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Alonso-Plessis
-Kuyt----Keane---Benayoun

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Torres

Subs: Cavalieri, Hyypia, Finnan, Voronin, Pennant, Insua, Ngog, Spearing, Nemeth, El Zhar.

No Pacheco

Mike.

DeadSkin

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Maybe allow isn't the right word.
He compained so much that a few of the team eventually left with him.
While the rest of the squad were watching at the hotel, Cole complained and eventually Crouch and a few others agreed to go to town with him.
When they heard what was happening in th second half, they all rushed into a sports bar to watch, but even them Cole sat outside and refused to watch.

Crouch said all this in an interview after he signed for us.

Cole was so bitter about loosing, that he wouldn't watch the match.

Hmm, I didn't know that.
The only Cole I'd have a problem seeing in a red shirt is Cashley.

rosboy

mike65 wrote: »

No Pacheco

Mike.

I'm not convinced we'll see much of Pacheco this year. He's only 17. Think Rafa wanted to give him a run out in preseason to help his confidence, and see how he integrates with the big boys. He's played well, but I have a feeling that Nemeth and N'Gog will be ahead of him in the pecking order for thsi campaign.

mike65

Pennant and Voronin are in the squad so read into that what you will.

Mike

rosboy

Putting them in the shop window:)

copacetic

kick off delayed for 15 mins, if anyone on a stream is wondering what is going on.

mike65

http://mikeisyou.webs.com/ altenative stream scroll down to near the bottom select the game from the menu.

Mike.

tricky D

Also http://www.justin.tv/mstv3

mike65

All pretty low key, Liverpool started brightly without applying any sustained pressure then Lazio started to get more ball and further up the pitch, both sides have had half chances but its quite "freindly" in feel apart from the ref who blatently fouled Alonso.

Mike.

mayordenis

thought dossena has looked pretty good throughout,
some great passing from alonso and shockingly good passing from both carragher and plessis,
i'm sure the changes will be coming thick and fast

The Recliner

Good pre-season start so far

Dossena looks good, Keane and Benni have worked hard as has Kuyt

Shocking miss from nando from 7 yards

DeadSkin

One change, Ngog on for Torres.

Jesus Wept

oNLY ONE Voronin!

The Recliner

What a finish by Vorinon

rosboy

Sensational finish. Who said we should sell him?:p

tonc76

absolutely hung it :pac:

Daemonic

Nice pass by Spearing too.

tricky D

Interesting (non-)celebration???

DeadSkin

Might add a couple more 0's to his pricetag :pac::pac:

Malice

Great finish by Voronin but credit too to Spearing for the pass. I thought Alonso played very well again tonight. Kuyt was very disappointing. He didn't seem to want to take the Lazio left back on once during the match and he also missed a couple of good chances.

Dirk Gently

does anyone else cringe anytime vorinin scores?

Jesus Wept

The opposition?

Malice

clown bag wrote: »

does anyone else cringe anytime vorinin scores?

Why would you cringe? He's a Liverpool player and as such deserves support just like any other player when they are wearing the red shirt. Unless you don't actually mean Voronin but rather some other player?

DeadSkin

It's very hard to take something from friendlies, but, I thought Ngog played well, very comfortable on the ball. He only joined up with the squad a few weeks ago and looks like he settled in well.

copacetic

plessis and ngog impressed for me tonight. they could be the real difference imo. alonso looks really up for it. plenty of chants for him, as well as plenty of 'keano' that makes me suspect we will be hearing it all season, no matter what anyone thinks.

GBX

Alonso looks better as well. Had a good game. As the OP said, its hard to take too much from pre season... and as we say round here ... "In Rafa we Trust"... Im sure he will have seen enough to get his team basis for the coming season.

rosboy

Alonso was the best player out there tonight. Hopefully we see him play in Belgium on Wednesday night. That will kill a lot of the rumours of him leaving.

Spearing did well tonight when he came on.

N'Gog showed a great burst of speed down the left wing just before he put in teh cross for Voronin's goal. The guy has massive potential.

The Recliner

The-Rigger wrote: »

The opposition?

The game was against lazio who weren't brilliant goign forward but decent defensively

Ngog looked good as he has done pre season and I am liking Dossena going forward, defensively remains to be tested

Spearing looks alright and Plessis is good back up for now

whatawaster

I think Plessis is more than adequate back up for Mascherano. We're not going to find any holding player who is a) within our price range, b) good enough for Liverpool and c) willing to spend a season mostly on the bench. Plessis reminds me so much of Hamman, i think he'll be a fantastic player in a few years. He's an excellent passer, i just think he needs to toughen up a little. Sometimes he can be reluctant to make a challenge. I would start him and Alonso against Sunderland, regardless of whether or not Gerrard is fit.

rosboy

whatawaster wrote: »

I think Plessis is more than adequate back up for Mascherano. We're not going to find any holding player who is a) within our price range, b) good enough for Liverpool and c) willing to spend a season mostly on the bench. Plessis reminds me so much of Hamman, i think he'll be a fantastic player in a few years. He's an excellent passer, i just think he needs to toughen up a little. Sometimes he can be reluctant to make a challenge. I would start him and Alonso against Sunderland, regardless of whether or not Gerrard is fit.

I agree that he is adequate for now, and has massive potential. I just feel he needs to get regular first team football to improve his confidence (his reluctance to challenge at times). If we get Barry (which is a big if at the moment), I wouldn't mind seeing him go out on loan to a team like Bolton or Fulham where he would get a lot more first team time than he's likely to get at Liverpool.

Karmafaerie

clown bag wrote: »

does anyone else cringe anytime vorinin scores?

I sure as hell don't.
Voronin is a class player and will always score.

I've said the whole time that he'll score about 1 in 3, which he has, and will do if he stays.


Voronin is a Liverpool player, and any Liverpool supporter who cringes when a Liverpool player scores (consistantly!) needs to get their head checked!

Karmafaerie

tricky D wrote: »

Interesting (non-)celebration???

Supposedly Voronin has said that he intends to "silence" his critics.

3 goals in 4 pre-season starts is a nice way to start.

Chardee MacDennis

New signing hopefully coming soon says Rafa when talking about Alonso. Barry I presume?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N160840080808-2259.htm wrote:

"He was playing well," he said.

"That was positive for us. He is a good player and hopefully we will have another good player coming in soon. We can improve so we will try to improve."

"Clearly we have problems on the left," he said. "We have sold Riise and Kewell and Fabio Aurelio is injured. Leto doesn't have a work permit and Babel is at the Olympic Games, so I think we can improve in this area."

Anyone have Voronins goal?

GBX

I hope the other new player is not Barry to push Alonso out. As Rafa said, a left sided player ... a winger preferably.

~Rebel~

im hoping for Suarez still. Scored again today for Ajax against Arsenal.

Otherwise would like Downing, with Riera being another very likely one.

swalsh

GBX wrote: »

I hope the other new player is not Barry to push Alonso out. As Rafa said, a left sided player ... a winger preferably.

But Barry can play on the left and is really good when he does. I think that he could be a great solution until Babel is back and Aureillo is fit, then the headaches can start especially with the performances that Alonso and Plessis have put in

Bounty Hunter

swalsh wrote: »

But Barry can play on the left and is really good when he does. I think that he could be a great solution until Babel is back and Aureillo is fit, then the headaches can start especially with the performances that Alonso and Plessis have put in

if he is playing LM in a 442 maybe, Barry should not play LWF in Liverpools usual 4-2-3-1 as that role simply would not suit him.

Tusky

swalsh wrote: »

But Barry can play on the left and is really good when he does. I think that he could be a great solution until Babel is back and Aureillo is fit, then the headaches can start especially with the performances that Alonso and Plessis have put in

Spending 18m on Barry to play him on the left wing ? No thanks.

swalsh

I totally agree but I feel that this is going to be the formation in Belgium and possibly for the first pl game against Sunderland. As I said it is when we get our Olympians back that the headaches will really start and although it has been discussed both here and in the Barry thread I do believe that only good can come from Liverpool signing Barry

internelligent

Enjoyed watching Alonso play. He looks as if he's fighting for his place and from what I've seen so far, (granted that they are only pre-season games), he's doing enough to give Rafa a selection headache. Just wondering, if Alonso is on the bench for the CL qualifier, does that mean he's cup tied whether he gets subbed or not?
If Gerrard is fit then he should play against Sunderland. Take him off early if the game seems to be wrapped up but I'd want our best XI on the pitch for first fixture of the season. Starting the season with a win gives the team a massive boost I feel.
On the game tonight, Lazio were out to not conceed and maybe nick a goal on the counter. Thought their defense was impressive enough so I was delighted when Voronin scored.