Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

wcarey1975

sorry about last post looks like I deteled too much from the "quote"

Karmafaerie

IrishMike wrote: »

Ill get lambasted for this but:
It was 15 years ago, time to bury the hatchet perhaps?

What's more important a date than that 15 years, is the fact that this is the 20 year anniversary.

A time to remember, not forget.

No, Liverpool had a hard enough time burrying the dead.
Burrying the hatchet next to them wouldn't be right.


96
YNWA.

zAbbo

Rafa has always had a huge emphasis on bringing in players before pre-season, especially if they have no premiership experience.

I think now's the time for Villa to either piss or get off the pot, I think Barry would be a great addition, Did Carrick or Hargreaves value matter after they won PL & CL titles?

IrishMike

zAbbo wrote: »

I think now's the time for Villa to either piss or get off the pot, I think Barry would be a great addition, Did Carrick or Hargreaves value matter after they won PL & CL titles?

If buying them meant losing out on Anderson and Nani then yes their value would matter.
Oh United winning the PL back to back was more down to Ronaldo finding his
feet in the PL than Carricks form IMHO.

prendy

while its undoubtable that Ronaldo was key i think many people undeerestimate the importance of Carrick to that team.

_blank_

zAbbo wrote: »

I think now's the time for Villa to either piss or get off the pot

Hilarious.

Villa were never ON A POT to start with.

Liverpool/Rafa enquired as to the saleability of Barry, were told £18m or piss off, so they then proceded to lash in bids which were below the asking price. Each time being told to piss off, we already told you eighteen million. Ah go on, fourteen, no piss off, we already told you eighteen, ah go on, sixteen plus a player we don't really want anyway, no piss off, we already told you eighteen million.

Seems to me it's LIVERPOOL who need to piss or get off the pot, tbh.

missingtime

Des wrote: »

Seems to me it's LIVERPOOL who need to piss or get off the pot, tbh.

This whole thing is a big pot of piss to be honest.

raven136

the times of london has rafa lining up a 6m alternative if the barry deal doesnt go ahead.Any idea who that is?

Karmafaerie

I love the way that Martin O'Niell, the manager who so lambasted Liverpool for "constantly using the press", has once again gone to the press to say that Arsenal are interested in Barry.

Arsenal didn't feel the need to say it, but MON did!

To the press.

AGAIN!!!

FFS like.
The guy is really starting to piss me off!
Can't believe I used to rate him.

No matter how geat a manager he ever becomes, he'll always be a little man with a complex inside!

spockety

I don't know, but if he's a good alternative to Barry and only costing 6m, ditch the idea of Barry altogether and use the other 12m on a winger/striker!

p.s. KEEP ALONSO

GBX

Alonso's Agent says Arsenal have enquired:
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_3826029,00.html

The classy midfielder has seen a possible move to Juventus hit the buffers after the Italian giants signed Christian Poulsen from Sevilla.
However, reports continue to suggest that Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez is prepared to sell Alonso to fund his own spending plans.
Alonso is rated in the £14million bracket and has now been linked with a move to the Reds' Premier League rivals Arsenal.
Gunners manager Arsene Wenger is in the market for a midfielder after losing Mathieu Flamini, while Gilberto Silva is set to join Panathinaikos.
Reports in Spain suggest contact has been made between the two clubs and the 26-year-old's agent Inaki Ibanez says the player is waiting for Liverpool's decision.
"The player knows about this subject and now the decision lies with Liverpool," Ibanez told Spanish newspaper Publico.
Alonso's sale would give Benitez the funds to sign Aston Villa captain Gareth Barry, who has also been linked with a move to Arsenal.

Melion

Id rather us go for Michael Johnson than waste anymore time talking to Villa

raven136

i'd love johnson,young and exciting.Anychance we could get him for around the 10-14m price range.
I'd keep alonso if a player of considerable ability (not promise) is the replacement.

meditraitor

Plagerised this from
http://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/

Papers Rumour Accuracy For Liverpool

Paper Right Total Num Accuracy

The Guardian 8 19................ 42.11%
The Independent 12 31 .................38.71%
The Express 16 42 .................... 38.1%
Daily Record 1 3 .................. 33.33%
Daily Telegraph 6 ..................... 22 27.27%
The Sun 30 117 .................. 25.64%
Daily Mail 17 72 ................ 23.61%
Daily Star 17 74 .................. 22.97%
The Times 10 48 .................. 20.83%
News Of The World 12 79 .......... 15.19%
Daily Mirror 26 172 1 ................ 5.12%
The People 4 49 .................... 8.16%

Just thought it would be of interest

mike65

Eh, look back a page.

Mike.

meditraitor

mike65 wrote: »

Eh, look back a page.

Mike.

Didnt notice it, back 4 pages for me.

OK what about Alonso going to Fenerbache?

http://www.lfconline.com/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=397909

Cant see it happening

raven136

i dont see it,more him moving to athletico/sevilla type team.
Anyone see him at spurs in a swap type deal for keane?

IrishMike

raven136 wrote: »

the times of london has rafa lining up a 6m alternative if the barry deal doesnt go ahead.Any idea who that is?

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56579951&postcount=142

meditraitor wrote: »

Plagerised this from
http://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/

Just thought it would be of interest

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56578350&postcount=118

Does anyone read my posts

meditraitor

IrishMike wrote: »

Does anyone read my posts

I will be extra vigilant in future bud . ;-)

Karmafaerie

raven136 wrote: »

i dont see it,more him moving to athletico/sevilla type team.
Anyone see him at spurs in a swap type deal for keane?

Atletico have CL football, and his old pal Luis.
They also have a really good team, who'll challenge in Spain next year.
Also, he's a new daddy, who may prefer to raise his son in Madrid rather than London (pure speculation on my part there.)

Spurs have no CL football, and not too much of a chance of getting it IMO.


Id say he'd deffinately perfer Atletico.

~Rebel~

agh, i hate this talk of not getting barry, but selling alonso anwyay. As it stands we have a very strong midfield which would be slightly strengthened by Barry replaceing alonso. Its not like Alonso is a liability, theres no point in replacing him with someone of lower quality. Should be keeping our strong areas intact and building on our weak areas, not weakening one area for the sake of another.

mike65

This thread is still moving too fast!

Mike.

jesus_thats_gre

IrishMike wrote: »

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56579951&postcount=142



http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56578350&postcount=118

Does anyone read my posts

Actually used to but the constant posts about Barry and whoever being crap (Quaresma being signed making you sick being the most recent example), over priced or not good enough very nearly has you on my ignore list. As with 1 or 2 others.

I know you won't care but you did ask.

IrishMike

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Actually used to but the constant posts about Barry and whoever being crap (Quaresma being signed making you sick being the most recent example), over priced or not good enough very nearly has you on my ignore list. As with 1 or 2 others.

I know you won't care but you did ask.

Very nearly but not quite there yet
And quaresma would still be a disaster of a signing in my opinion, isnt that
the entire point of this thread to give opinions on transfer speculation?

jesus_thats_gre

You are perfectly entitled to. I just don't like seeing extremely negative posts about players we have been linked to. I don't particularly like Quaresma myself but being linked to a player that has obvious quality, although overrated, shouldn't be met with extreme reactions like "make me feel sick". The numerous comments like those slating Kewell recently are bang out of order too in my opinion.

missingtime

On one of the papers today newcastle are close to taking insua on loan aparently.
He was supposed to part exchange for Milner but they just want him on loan now.

IrishMike

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

You are perfectly entitled to. I just don't like seeing extremely negative posts about players we have been linked to. I don't particularly like Quaresma myself but being linked to a player that has obvious quality, although overrated, shouldn't be met with extreme reactions like "make me feel sick". The numerous comments like those slating Kewell recently are bang out of order too in my opinion.

Thing is though what obvious quality does he have?
He has no end product, goes missing completely in big games and is famous for diving.
Granted he has scored some brilliant goals but so did Tony Yeboah in his day
Quaresma would cost 16-20m more than likely, i would be devestated if we put
all our eggs in his basket so to speak as i dont think he will cut the mustard
in the PL. I hope im wrong if he signs but dont see why i shouldnt say what i
think on the subject in fairness....

dardoz

I think perhaps jesus needs a chill pill

Everyone expresses themselves differently. Some may a little OTT but that's where tolerence of those around you comes in...

You need to get married, THAT will bloody teach you tolerance

IrishMike

missingtime wrote: »

On one of the papers today newcastle are close to taking insua on loan aparently.
He was supposed to part exchange for Milner but they just want him on loan now.

That was yesterday, with another paper today saying that Rafa is gonna rebuff
the approaches, which probably means he will get some first team football this
season which can only be a good thing.

missingtime

IrishMike wrote: »

That was yesterday, with another paper today saying that Rafa is gonna rebuff
the approaches, which probably means he will get some first team football this
season which can only be a good thing.

I see. Cool. If we don't get much in the way of transfers this year hopefully it will allow the younger guys a shot. Every other day we get a new "starlet" (which sounds totally porno btw) and I'd like to know if they are any good.

Tusky

Elisha Scott: Keane will be signed by the weekend.

Make of that what you will. In my experience, he has never been wrong.

IrishMike

Would more or less rule out a move for Aguerro if it is true.
Im happy to see Keane signed though, think he would add a huge amount to the squad

missingtime

Never was the biggest fan of Keane. Always looked like a bit of a huffer and puffer. Good season last year though and the Spurs fans seemed to like him.

DeadSkin

With better players around him, I think Keane could do a job for Liverpool.

jesus_thats_gre

IrishMike wrote: »

Thing is though what obvious quality does he have?
He has no end product, goes missing completely in big games and is famous for diving.
Granted he has scored some brilliant goals but so did Tony Yeboah in his day
Quaresma would cost 16-20m more than likely, i would be devestated if we put
all our eggs in his basket so to speak as i dont think he will cut the mustard
in the PL. I hope im wrong if he signs but dont see why i shouldnt say what i
think on the subject in fairness....

Saying that you would be unhappy about it is fair enough. Saying that the thought of it makes you sick is rediculously over the top. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest that you shouldn't post it but it would be so much better if we could have some perspective.

Take the Barry situation for example also. How many posts has there been saying "he is not good enough" or "he is not worth the money". These are perfectly reasonable assertions but the sheer number of times that individuals have posted this is taking the piss.

I am not sure how to put this so forgive if I am not making sense. Everytime you make a post saying that Barry is not worth it, I am pretty sure that a Liverpool fan (myself included) of the opposite opinion feels compelled to post the oppositive in defence of Barry. How fast forward 4 weeks to where we are now. We have multiple threads with hundreds of posts saying "barry is crap" following by "barry would be great for us" followed by "Alonso is better, I don't understand why Rafa wants to get rid" followed by "because he has been playing poorly for months" followed by "barry is more consistent" followed by "barry is ****" followed by "I would rather rape a bunny rabbit than sign Barry".

We all know you rate Alonso higher than Barry. We all know that you don't think Barry is work 18m. You don't need to post it a thousand times!

dardoz wrote: »

I think perhaps jesus needs a chill pill

Everyone expresses themselves differently. Some may a little OTT but that's where tolerence of those around you comes in...

You need to get married, THAT will bloody teach you tolerance

I am chilled, hence not being arsed to post on any of the Liverpool threads anywhere near as regularly as I used to. The forum has too many overly excited gimps who need to stop drinking cheap fizzy orange. Another clump of the users is made up of pedantic gimps whos sole intention in life seems to be to antagonise Liverpool fans and win pointless battles.

I would just like to ruturn to the days when folk made reasonable comments and the place wasn't over run by oppossing fans trying to get reactions out of others.

Tusky

IrishMike wrote: »

Would more or less rule out a move for Aguerro if it is true.
Im happy to see Keane signed though, think he would add a huge amount to the squad

I never believed the Aguero link anyway. He would cost more than Villa, who we dont seem to be able to afford...

missingtime wrote: »

Never was the biggest fan of Keane. Always looked like a bit of a huffer and puffer. Good season last year though and the Spurs fans seemed to like him.

Huffer & puffer that scores a lot of goals...

Career Totals:
Games : 443
Goals : 169

Spurs Totals:
Games: 253
Goals: 107

Thats an average of 18 goals every season for the last 6 seasons... He would obviously be competing for a place with Kuyt, who scored 14 goals in all comps in his first season and 11 in all comps in his second.

IrishMike

42 goals and 17 assists in 78 games over the past 3 seasons for Spurs is an exceptional return.
Rooney has scored the same amount of goals in the past 3 season when you put it in context.
Would be delighted with us signing Keane the more i think about it, might put him in my
fantasty football team while he is still a spurs players

IrishMike

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Saying that you would be unhappy about it is fair enough. Saying that the thought of it makes you sick is rediculously over the top. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest that you shouldn't post it but it would be so much better if we could have some perspective.

Take the Barry situation for example also. How many posts has there been saying "he is not good enough" or "he is not worth the money". These are perfectly reasonable assertions but the sheer number of times that individuals have posted this is taking the piss.

I am not sure how to put this so forgive if I am not making sense. Everytime you make a post saying that Barry is not worth it, I am pretty sure that a Liverpool fan (myself included) of the opposite opinion feels compelled to post the oppositive in defence of Barry. How fast forward 4 weeks to where we are now. We have multiple threads with hundreds of posts saying "barry is crap" following by "barry would be great for us" followed by "Alonso is better, I don't understand why Rafa wants to get rid" followed by "because he has been playing poorly for months" followed by "barry is more consistent" followed by "barry is ****" followed by "I would rather rape a bunny rabbit than sign Barry".

We all know you rate Alonso higher than Barry. We all know that you don't think Barry is work 18m. You don't need to post it a thousand times!




I am chilled, hence not being arsed to post on any of the Liverpool threads anywhere near as regularly as I used to. The forum has too many overly excited gimps who need to stop drinking cheap fizzy orange. Another clump of the users is made up of pedantic gimps whos sole intention in life seems to be to antagonise Liverpool fans and win pointless battles.

I would just like to ruturn to the days when folk made reasonable comments and the place wasn't over run by oppossing fans trying to get reactions out of others.

Contrary much ? :eek:
This forum is better than any other football forum you will find due to the variey of posts and posters.
Why on earth should we adapt how we post to revert to your idealised version of this forum which you
obviously remember through rose tinted goggles?
And calling me a over excited gimp is a little bit much in fairness

jesus_thats_gre

DeadSkin wrote: »

With better players around him, I think Keane could do a job for Liverpool.

Agree completely. I think that he would excel at the club and provide more than sufficient competition for both Gerard and Torres.

jesus_thats_gre

IrishMike wrote: »

Contrary much ? :eek:

Are you suggesting that the scenario isn't largely based on what has happened across multiple threads at this stage?

missingtime

Tusky wrote: »

Huffer & puffer that scores a lot of goals...

Career Totals:
Games : 443
Goals : 169

Spurs Totals:
Games: 253
Goals: 107

Thats an average of 18 goals every season for the last 6 seasons... He would obviously be competing for a place with Kuyt, who scored 14 goals in all comps in his first season and 11 in all comps in his second.

Oh I always knew he was good (never that good mind) - playing for Ireland sure does give a bad impression of a player.

Chardee MacDennis

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Saying that you would be unhappy about it is fair enough. Saying that the thought of it makes you sick is rediculously over the top. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and I wouldn't dare suggest that you shouldn't post it but it would be so much better if we could have some perspective.

Take the Barry situation for example also. How many posts has there been saying "he is not good enough" or "he is not worth the money". These are perfectly reasonable assertions but the sheer number of times that individuals have posted this is taking the piss.

I am not sure how to put this so forgive if I am not making sense. Everytime you make a post saying that Barry is not worth it, I am pretty sure that a Liverpool fan (myself included) of the opposite opinion feels compelled to post the oppositive in defence of Barry. How fast forward 4 weeks to where we are now. We have multiple threads with hundreds of posts saying "barry is crap" following by "barry would be great for us" followed by "Alonso is better, I don't understand why Rafa wants to get rid" followed by "because he has been playing poorly for months" followed by "barry is more consistent" followed by "barry is ****" followed by "I would rather rape a bunny rabbit than sign Barry".

We all know you rate Alonso higher than Barry. We all know that you don't think Barry is work 18m. You don't need to post it a thousand times!




I am chilled, hence not being arsed to post on any of the Liverpool threads anywhere near as regularly as I used to. The forum has too many overly excited gimps who need to stop drinking cheap fizzy orange. Another clump of the users is made up of pedantic gimps whos sole intention in life seems to be to antagonise Liverpool fans and win pointless battles.

I would just like to ruturn to the days when folk made reasonable comments and the place wasn't over run by oppossing fans trying to get reactions out of others.

different thread name same posts....

~Rebel~

Leto maybe to olympiacos?

Olympiakos are reportedly in talks with Liverpool over the signing of midfielder Sebastian Leto.

Leto joined The Reds last summer from Lanus but has struggled for first-team opportunities since his switch.

The Argentine has previously been linked with a move away from Anfield, with rumours suggesting he could be used as part of a swap deal for Espanyol's Albert Riera.

However, fresh reports claim Leto, 21, could be set to join Olympiakos for a fee in the region of €1.6million (£1.3million) after the Greek champions held discussions with Liverpool over the weekend.

Unless we're desperate for the 1.3million id prefer to loan him out and see how he does. Looked to have great potential in the reserves before all the passport nonsense. Sure, was poor against marseille, but so was everyone else.

IrishMike

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Are you suggesting that the scenario isn't largely based on what has happened across multiple threads at this stage?

Its by far the biggest news surrounding Liverpool football club for the past 6 weeks.
Was there not the same debate surround the yanks vs the sheiks for 3 months across numerous threads also?
Its pretty big news thats on nearly every paper on a daily basis.
Of course people are going to keep talking and analysing it. :cool:

Cyrus

missingtime wrote: »

Oh I always knew he was good (never that good mind) - playing for Ireland sure does give a bad impression of a player.

imagine people had based their opinion of john barnes on how he played for england?

keane is one of the top premier league strikers and would be an addition to any side, id be delighted if we get him

ill even tolerate 'that' celebration

jesus_thats_gre

Keep talking and analysing it or the same 2 or 3 regulars complemented by 2 or 3 over eager kids on summer holidays repeating the same thing over and over on a daily basis for 6 weeks?

IrishMike

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Keep talking and analysing it or the same 2 or 3 regulars complemented by 2 or 3 over eager kids on summer holidays repeating the same thing over and over on a daily basis for 6 weeks?

Seriously mate not quite sure what bee flew into your bonnet today but
you are insinuating that i have talked about Barry non stop in this thread
for 6 weeks. Thats bull to say the least. I have talked about at least 20
players in that time and gave links and sources to every story to stimulate
some sort of a debate. You could have contributed to any one of those
stories so instead of whinging that this place is stagnant and not like the
good old days, how about voicing an opinion once in a while on topics outside
of Garreth Barry.
You shouldnt have to look far as i have posted about 4 different stories about
players we have been linked to today alone!

colly10

IrishMike wrote: »

Would more or less rule out a move for Aguerro if it is true.

Was never going to happen anyway, he'd cost us at least €55m

Mr Alan

Cyrus wrote: »

ill even tolerate 'that' celebration

No, he has to get rid of that ****e

~Rebel~

Mr Alan wrote: »

No, he has to get rid of that ****e

he did it a lot less last season at least, think its getting reserved for special occasions now, like Crouch's robot is.