Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Karmafaerie

DeadSkin wrote: »

I never implied we'd get Cole for £6m.
Promises, shmromises, Rafa still signed Bellamy & his baggage.
Maybe Cole will promise he'll be a good boy if Rafa signs him.

I never said that you did.

I implied the mitigating circumstances.
The only reason that Rafa risked Belamy, is that he was able to get him so cheaply.
This isn't the case with Cole, so the two aren't comparable.

Simple.

prendy

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I never said that you did.

I implied the mitigating circumstances.
The only reason that Rafa risked Belamy, is that he was able to get him so cheaply.
This isn't the case with Cole, so the two aren't comparable.

Simple.

its been a while since anything to do with LFC has been simple. It seems everything to do with the club at the minute is complicated, stadium, owners transfer

DeadSkin

They are comparable with their said 'disruptive' attitude, Bellamy was still a risk, albeit cheaper.
My original response was to

Complete opposit of the kind of player that Rafa has always bought.

Karmafaerie wrote: »

I see this as a non-story TBH, which is a pity, cause talent wise, he's amazing!

Agreed! Case closed :pac:

Karmafaerie

DeadSkin wrote: »

They are comparable with their said 'disruptive' attitude, Bellamy was still a risk, albeit cheaper.
My original response was to


Agreed! Case closed :pac:

Lets just agree to disagree.;)

Dont be at yourself

No chance Cole would drop down imo, also no chance of Chelsea selling him to Liverpool.
Spurs/Villa would be his only English outs.

If Cole would drop down for Spurs or Villa, he'd 'drop down' for Liverpool.

Chelsea have Ballack, Lampard, Cole, Malouda, Deco, Kalou, SWP and Essien, who are all capable of playing Cole's role, to varying degrees. To top that off, there's strong rumours that they're bringing in one, possible two, of Robinho and Kaka. It's easy to imagine a situation where Scolari decides to slim down his squad by selling off players like Cole.

For what it's worth, I'd take him at Liverpool. He showed that he was willing and able to improve his game under Mourinho, and would hopefully be similarly receptive to Rafa's tutelage. He's the exact type of player we need for our attacking midfield. He's left-footed, but he thrives centrally as opposed to out wide. He tracks back and is great at linking play between the midfield and attackers.

ibh

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

If Cole would drop down for Spurs or Villa, he'd 'drop down' for Liverpool.

Chelsea have Ballack, Lampard, Cole, Malouda, Deco, Kalou, SWP and Essien, who are all capable of playing Cole's role, to varying degrees. To top that off, there's strong rumours that they're bringing in one, possible two, of Robinho and Kaka. It's easy to imagine a situation where Scolari decides to slim down his squad by selling off players like Cole.

For what it's worth, I'd take him at Liverpool. He showed that he was willing and able to improve his game under Mourinho, and would hopefully be similarly receptive to Rafa's tutelage. He's the exact type of player we need for our attacking midfield. He's left-footed, but he thrives centrally as opposed to out wide. He tracks back and is great at linking play between the midfield and attackers.

He's right footed actually, but is comfortable on the left wing.

I would say he is the best English player for years 'technically'. He also learned a lot the season WH got relegated when he was superb playing in Centre Midfield.

He has a bit of a potato head however....

dardoz

sorry for the OT post here lads but I need the link to the website that shows all the sports streams that are on. I am in work so I can't check my favourites and I want to watch the irish guy boxing in the olympics in 5 mins.... any1 have a link?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

dardoz wrote: »

sorry for the OT post here lads but I need the link to the website that shows all the sports streams that are on. I am in work so I can't check my favourites and I want to watch the irish guy boxing in the olympics in 5 mins.... any1 have a link?

http://www.myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

dbnavan

Anyone know if the game is tomorrow night is on TV anywhere?? I cant find it anywhere, I know how to get it online, but prefer the tv

emc2

dbnavan wrote: »

Anyone know if the game is tomorrow night is on TV anywhere?? I cant find it anywhere, I know how to get it online, but prefer the tv

I think ITV/UTV have it.

meditraitor

emc2 wrote: »

I think ITV/UTV have it.

20.00 - 22.10 (Kick-off 20.05)

Uefa Champions League Live
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Standard Liege v LiverpoolStandard Liege v Liverpool (Kick-off 8.05pm). Craig Doyle presents coverage of the third qualifying round first-leg encounter at the Stade Maurice Dufrasne. The Reds have a decent record in this competition in recent years, but will still be wary of taking on the Belgian champions given the financial consequences of not reaching the group stages. Rafael Benitez has added several new faces to his squad and the likes of Robbie Keane and Andrea Dossena are hoping to take their European bow for the 2005 champions. With commentary by Clive Tyldesley SUB
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zAbbo

Nice one, and no better charmer than Doyler to present it!

missingtime

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3970750,00.html

Manchester Utd...20m bid rejected.

We never really had a chance did we?

Karmafaerie

missingtime wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3970750,00.html

Manchester Utd...20m bid rejected.

We never really had a chance did we?

Nope, but people will still say that we could have gotten Villa for the same price as Keane.:rolleyes:;)

oobydooby

missingtime wrote: »

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3970750,00.html

Manchester Utd...20m bid rejected.

We never really had a chance did we?

clever move by Ferguson. I'd bet that 20 mill would have been Rafa's upper bid. If it's true that Rafa has another 22 million in the kitty I'd rather he waited until Xmas to get a quality player rather than a stop-gap for now. The team looks good to me as it is and would only be improved by adding a quality winger, not just a winger.

modmuffin

Whats the story with Agge. Is he fit and ready for the start of the season.

ibh

modmuffin wrote: »

Whats the story with Agge. Is he fit and ready for the start of the season.

Reports are that 'the Dagger' is fit and ready for the new season.

He is such a quality CB. I can see Skrtel having a tough time getting into the team this year, and he's class as well.
I'm also going to get a few quid down on Agger for first goal quite regularly this year.
Hyypia used to be my first goal bet all the time but i think Agger could grab 5+ goals from CB.

ibh

raven136 wrote: »

anyone check out Martin Samuel column in the times.Great piece about the Barry saga.Sorry cant link it:o

It's in the Indo as well I think.
It's well written but i don't subscribe to the view that Barry would improve us greatly, as in be the 'final piece' to make us PL winners.

On another note i hate when Journalists predict are team and have it lining out as a 4-4-2. How fcuking lazy or useless are they?? Hae they watched us play in the last 10 months or so???

missingtime

Poland winger Jakub Blaszczykowski wants to move to Liverpool in an £8m deal, but the 22-year-old's club Borussia Dortmund are refusing to sell. (The Times)
Hmmm....looks like another stop gap on the way

Official link - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4518057.ece

It mentions Yossi's sale to roma but we were told he's going nowhere

DeadSkin

missingtime wrote: »

Poland winger Jakub Blaszczykowski wants to move to Liverpool in an £8m deal, but the 22-year-old's club Borussia Dortmund are refusing to sell. (The Times)
Hmmm....looks like another stop gap on the way

Official link - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4518057.ece

It mentions Yossi's sale to roma but we were told he's going nowhere

Smells of bs
He wants to move to Liverpool, so do I :pac:
Also he's a right sided midfielder, not what we need.

missingtime

DeadSkin wrote: »

Smells of bs
He wants to move to Liverpool, so do I :pac:
Also he's a right sided midfielder, not what we need.

I noticed that too. All this cutting inside bollocks has confused the situation somewhat.

PHB

Barry stuff moved to Barry thread

dardoz

just checked out this Jakub Blaszczykowski on youtube. He looks like a stop gap alrit, nothing amazing. Probably a bit better than Pennant, thats not saying much

mru

dardoz wrote: »

just checked out this Jakub Blaszczykowski on youtube. He looks like a stop gap alrit, nothing amazing. Probably a bit better than Pennant, thats not saying much

sorry lads - at work here and can't check youtube, is this lad any good? i don't rate pennant at all, so if this new lad is only marginally better...:eek:

zAbbo

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7551414.stm

Steve Finnan will not play after he was left behind amid reports of a row between himself and Rafael Benitez.

and

"I am not thinking about signing players at the moment, because they cannot play against Liege. I am only concentrating on this game.

"And I have not needed to contact the owners because they cannot help with the preparation for this match. I prefer not to say anything else.

"I have not been distracted, I have been focusing on this game and getting to the Champions League group stages."

Sounds very similar to the concentraing on preparing his team, that we had last year when communication had broken down with the yanks and Rafa.

Liverpool (provisional): Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger, Dossena, Kuyt, Gerrard, Alonso, Benayoun, Torres, Keane.
Subs (from): Cavalieri, Plessis, Ngog, Spearing, Hyypia, Pennant, Darby.

mru

Sounds like relations between the two are pretty frosty again

gixerfixer

Sounds like a load of B.S. Tbh. Rafa says he's concentrating on prepering the team for the match tonight and everyone takes it as he's argueing with the owners.Usual nothing stories from the tabloids at the moment about the club.:rolleyes: Back to the game.Cant wait for tonight to see what team Rafa puts out there.Hopefully he will go with a mix and match of youth and experience and hold out the big guns for Saturday. Watched a few clips of Leige over the last few days and man oh man they are brutal. Football in belgium had really gone to the dogs.

mike65

I think Finnan - Rafa is not half what its being reported as.

Mike.

Dont be at yourself

Rafa has always tended to focus on the upcoming game in his press conferences. I wouldn't read too much into what he said.

I'm not sure about this Finnan thing - he didnt travel to Valerenga either, did he? He cant be carrying a knock if he's being called up for the Irish game next week.

Tusky

I seriously doubt we will start the new season with Finnan, Degen & Arbeloa. How would they get enough game time ? You would need serious rotation to keep them happy and rotating defenders is not a good idea.

I expect Finnan to be sold.

dannydiamond

missingtime wrote: »

Poland winger Jakub Blaszczykowski

I'd love to hear Andy Gray try and spout that name for 90 mins:pac:

~Rebel~

Rafa said this yesterday about Finnan;

While the Reds captain looks likely to win his fitness battle, one player who won't feature is full-back Steve Finnan, who Benitez feels is still short of match practice.

"He is not on the bench and has not travelled but we have Arbeloa in that position," said the Anfield manager.

"He was injured at the beginning of pre-season and had an operation and although he is now training with the team, he is still a bit behind in fitness."

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N160890080812-1839.htm

Cyrus

is the match on tv tonight?

jesus_thats_gre

Cyrus wrote: »

is the match on tv tonight?

Mentioned 10 times already Cyrus ITV/UTV

missingtime

Would Rafa be pissed that Finnan came out of international retirement?

Cyrus

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Mentioned 10 times already Cyrus ITV/UTV

doesnt come up on entertainment.ie

cheers jesus

Villain

www.wheresthematch.com

Never have to look anywhere else for match listings

Thanx 4 The Fish

Any whispers about the starting lineup yet ?

mayordenis

no 3 o clock kick off on tv on saturday
I was looking forward to a day of football gluttony

zing

Villain wrote: »

www.wheresthematch.com

Never have to look anywhere else for match listings

Looks a lot handier than liveonsat.com, etc.. Not without it's mistakes though - they're listing the boro v lfc game at the start of sept as being part of La Liga

EDIT: What's more that game on Sept 2nd is a reserves match.

Tusky

Villain wrote: »

www.wheresthematch.com

Never have to look anywhere else for match listings

Very nice website, cheers.

Villain

Tusky wrote: »

Very nice website, cheers.

Yea I only found it last week, its handy the way you can click on a team and see all the games that are been shown.

dardoz

Cyrus wrote: »

doesnt come up on entertainment.ie

cheers jesus

ITV and UTV are not always the same shows. It is not listed on entertainment.ie on UTV, please god they are wrong...

mike65

I see Stephen Warnock has put in for a transfer - is he the solution to the left side

Mike

DeadSkin

mike65 wrote: »

I see Stephen Warnock has put in for a transfer - is he the solution to the left side

Mike

Oh no he hasn't :pac::p

Blackburn full-back Stephen Warnock has said reports saying he has handed in a transfer request are "rubbish". (Sky Sports News, 1226 BST)

Although I was diasappointed when he left.

dardoz, it's on UTV for defo!!!

SantryRed

mayordenis wrote: »

no 3 o clock kick off on tv on saturday
I was looking forward to a day of football gluttony

Boro Spurs is on Setanta Ireland at 3. Liverpool then on at 5.15.

mike65

I thought the Warnock story must be rubbish, where would be go?

Mike.

DeadSkin

He's been linked to Newcastle the last few weeks or so. Swap deal with the Duffer!

Tusky

So its looking like Man U will sign Berbatov for 28m. To be fair, they will have a scarily good team. Thats without Nani, Hargreaves, Carrick, Brown, Saha etc.

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Berbatov

Ronaldo

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Rooney

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Tevez

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Scholes--Anderson

Evra---Ferdinand---Vidic--Neville

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Van Der Sar

I think their squad is almost as good as Chelseas now. Ours is on par...or maybe a wee bit better than Arsenals...

I think Chelsea & Utd will battle it out for 1st & 2nd with ourselves and Arsenal fighting over 3rd & 4th. Hopefully we can stay in the mix until the end of the season for added excitement. I think it may be even tighter this year than last.

Really looking forward to Saturday now.

whatawaster

same side as the Lazio game.

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Reina

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Arbeloa

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Carragher

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Agger

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Dossena

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Plessis

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Alonso

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Kuyt

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Keane

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Benayoun

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Torres

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Glad to see Plessis starting. I'm sure he won't let us down.