Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Sunset V

Sunset V wrote: »

I think that's a great point to be honest. Every good team has it's weaker players. Look even into GAA, Galway won the 1998 football all Ireland with possibly the worst center half and captain (Ray Silke) that ever won an all Ireland so I think that's a good point.

Foreign game

event

Fink Goddie wrote: »

You were told not to mention trolling. Just because you dont like my opinion doesnt mean i am one. very mature response, can you not have a debate without having to call someone a troll.

I'm a season ticket holder, so bite me!!!

You mention one game, wow yeh we should deffo keep him or sell him for 40 mill since he had one good game LOL

:):)

what has that got to do with anything?

just cos you go to games, doesnt mean you're an expert on judging a player!

mike65

I'm suddenly hoping Lucas has a blinder of a season...

~Rebel~

Its not realistic to say the calibur of player at liverpool should all be gerrard and torres standard. its just not feasible. We'd all like it, but its an impossibility while the club is on a different level financially to clubs who can afford to aim for this. And even at that, no team in the world has 22 Torres and Gerrard standard players, and no team ever will.

Lucas had more good games then bad last season. He's a pretty safe option 99% of the time, and indeed his biggest failing has been playing TOO safe, rather then taking more risks bringing the ball forward.

Fink Goddie

event wrote: »

:):)

what has that got to do with anything?

just cos you go to games, doesnt mean you're an expert on judging a player!

Eh i was called a 'fan' insinuating that i wasnt one!!!

Daemonic

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Not would be the answer!

eh????

Fink Goddie wrote: »

So you agree he's not up to LFC standard!

No, I agree he isn't up to the standard of Alonso, Gerrard etc. but who is that we can afford without selling one of our current world class players?
If there's anyone on that list let Rafa know please.

Fink Goddie

mike65 wrote: »

I'm suddenly hoping Lucas has a blinder of a season...

More of a chance of Michael Jackson playing the 02 in London

Sunset V

Fink Goddie wrote: »

More of a chance of Michael Jackson playing the 02 in London

A tad unnecessary to disrespect the dead just because you don't like a player surely?

Fink Goddie

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Its not realistic to say the calibur of player at liverpool should all be gerrard and torres standard. its just not feasible. We'd all like it, but its an impossibility while the club is on a different level financially to clubs who can afford to aim for this. And even at that, no team in the world has 22 Torres and Gerrard standard players, and no team ever will.

Lucas had more good games then bad last season. He's a pretty safe option 99% of the time, and indeed his biggest failing has been playing TOO safe, rather then taking more risks bringing the ball forward.

Should have gone to specsavers!!!

Fink Goddie

Sunset V wrote: »

A tad unnecessary to disrespect the dead just because you don't like a player surely?

Its a joke, lighten up a bit!

Sunset V

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Its a joke, lighten up a bit!

No.

Fink Goddie

Daemonic wrote: »

eh????

No, I agree he isn't up to the standard of Alonso, Gerrard etc. but who is that we can afford without selling one of our current world class players?
If there's anyone on that list let Rafa know please.

So you;re sayig there's noone else that we could afford that would be better than Lucas?

copacetic

Fink Goddie wrote: »

More of a chance of Michael Jackson playing the 02 in London

No, you see Jackson is dead. So it's in fact 100% more likely that Lucas can have a good season. If you don't make idiotic comments the whole time, then people probably would be less inclined to believe it's what you are.

Lucas is young and started to come on last season. He showed that he isn't really a Mach replacement since tackling isn't his greatest skill. He's somewhere between Alonso and Masch and has great potential. Rafa has stuck with him because he can see this.

This time last year people were giving Alonso the same kind of abuse after a poor season and look what happened there.

Fink Goddie

Sunset V wrote: »

No.

Stay serious then, because thats more fun.

slingerz

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Is someone jealous?

Why sure I'm a season ticket holder at Anfield too?

Fink Goddie

copacetic wrote: »

No, you see Jackson is dead. So it's in fact 100% more likely that Lucas can have a good season. If you don't make idiotic comments the whole time, then people probably would be less inclined to believe it's what you are.

Lucas is young and started to come on last season. He showed that he isn't really a Mach replacement since tackling isn't his greatest skill. He's somewhere between Alonso and Masch and has great potential. Rafa has stuck with him because he can see this.

This time last year people were giving Alonso the same kind of abuse after a poor season and look what happened there.

Right so there's a snowballs chance in hell of Lucas having a great season, is that better.
Oh god such serious heads!
Idiotic comments, no need to get insulting, its a joke for gods sake.

Tackiling isnt his greatest skill, neither is passing or shooting, so what is his skill then? being part of the team because we have noone else??

Potential in a lower league maybe but he's not a premiership player.

whatawaster

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Should have gone to specsavers!!!

So he was voted Brazilian player of the year, Rafa Benitez (who has won the CL, Uefa Cup, La Liga) rates him. Dunga (who knows a thing or two about midfielders i think) rates him.

But no, he's definitely the worst Brazilian of all time.

I'm going mad Ted

whatawaster

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Right so there's a snowballs chance in hell of Lucas having a great season, is that better.
Oh god such serious heads!
Idiotic comments, no need to get insulting, its a joke for gods sake.

Tackiling isnt his greatest skill, neither is passing or shooting, so what is his skill then? being part of the team because we have noone else??

Potential in a lower league maybe but he's not a premiership player.

no tackling isn't his best attribute. But he's pretty good in almost all departments. He can pass pretty well, is intelligent, very good in the air and extremely hard working and honest.
He's not in the team because we've no one else. We have Spearing and Plessis. It's just that neither are 50% the player he is.

Fink Goddie

slingerz wrote: »

Why sure I'm a season ticket holder at Anfield too?

Liverpool must have 2,000,000,000,000,000 season ticket holders if we believe every claim like yours.

Is this After Hours?

mike65

Fink Goddie, you really support Mnachester Utd don't you? Go on you can tell us.

Fink Goddie

whatawaster wrote: »

no tackling isn't his best attribute. But he's pretty good in almost all departments. He can pass pretty well, is intelligent, very good in the air and extremely hard working and honest.
He's not in the team because we've no one else. We have Spearing and Plessis. It's just that neither are 50% the player he is.

He'd wanna be more than pretty good for the wages he's on.
How is he honest???

stevoslice

must say, had no time for lucas until the run-in last season, thought he came on in leaps towards the end of the year, and if he can keep improving next season he could be 'like a new signing', as they say.

now over to fink for the next three posts...

spockety

I can't understand the emphasis being placed on Lucas.

It has already been shown that he starts a lot less games than our main midfielders.

He's not our first choice central midfielder, why see him as a barrier to success?

Fink Goddie

thebhoy wrote: »

must say, had no time for lucas until the run-in last season, thought he came on in leaps towards the end of the year, and if he can keep improving next season he could be 'like a new signing', as they say.

now over to fink for the next three posts...

Well it would be rude not to answer people when they ask me questions wouldnt it!

stevoslice

spockety wrote: »

I can't understand the emphasis being placed on Lucas.

It has already been shown that he starts a lot less games than our main midfielders.

He's not our first choice central midfielder, why see him as a barrier to success?

small mindedness maybe....

whatawaster

Fink Goddie wrote: »

He'd wanna be more than pretty good for the wages he's on.
How is he honest???

He's honest because he gives f*cking 100% every time he pulls on the shirt. Despite the fact that idiots in the crowd are constantly blaming him for all the teams failings. Are you claiming he's not honest?
Were you at the Fulham game out of interest? Did you boo him?

PiE

Why the flying f*ck is sh*te like this allowed to go on so long. Christ.

Fink Goddie

thebhoy wrote: »

small mindedness maybe....

When ya have replacements like Ngog and Lucas how can ya win the league.
Look at the replacements united had last season, their bench was so much stronger than ours.

Oh but its ok because Voronin is coming back................ please :rolleyes:

NabyLadistheman

whatawaster wrote: »

He's honest because he gives f*cking 100% every time he pulls on the shirt. Despite the fact that idiots in the crowd are constantly blaming him for all the teams failings. Are you claiming he's not honest?
Were you at the Fulham game out of interest? Did you boo him?

Id say he's more of an F'n at the telly sort of guy that ya come across that get's on everyone's nerves

Fink Goddie

PiE wrote: »

Why the flying f*ck is sh*te like this allowed to go on so long. Christ.

Can you not handle a debate?

Sunset V

PiE wrote: »

Why the flying f*ck is sh*te like this allowed to go on so long. Christ.

+1 million

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

Fink Goddie, you really support Mnachester Utd don't you? Go on you can tell us.

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Stevie G and Torres!
And victor Valdes because he's hotttttt!

would like to go on the p1ss with Amy winehouse & Colin Farrell

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Victor Valdes the barcelona goalkeeper
CHECK THIS PIC OUT!!! HOTTTTTTTTT

I'd say it's toss-up between Liverpool and Barca, eh Fink?

Fink Goddie

whatawaster wrote: »

He's honest because he gives f*cking 100% every time he pulls on the shirt. Despite the fact that idiots in the crowd are constantly blaming him for all the teams failings. Are you claiming he's not honest?
Were you at the Fulham game out of interest? Did you boo him?

Should that not just be expected, with the money he's on and the fact that he gets to play for Liverpool even though he's nowhere near good enough to, damn right he should give 100% and even thats not good enough.
Never booed him, but i understand people that do.

Fink Goddie

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd say it's toss-up between Liverpool and Barca, eh Fink?

haha thats a bit sad that you went through all my posts :pac::pac:
Do i have a stalker.

Your point is??

K-9

Fink Goddie wrote: »

When ya have replacements like Ngog and Lucas how can ya win the league.
Look at the replacements united had last season, their bench was so much stronger than ours.

Oh but its ok because Voronin is coming back................ please :rolleyes:

OK Lucas is crap and he'll never ever, ever improve.

That better.

opr

PiE wrote: »

Why the flying f*ck is sh*te like this allowed to go on so long. Christ.

Maybe cause people keep replying to him ?

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Can you not handle a debate?

Its not a debate when you just keep making the same point over and over.

Opr

Fink Goddie

K-9 wrote: »

OK Lucas is crap and he'll never ever, ever improve.

That better.

Glad you agree with me

event

spockety wrote: »

I can't understand the emphasis being placed on Lucas.

It has already been shown that he starts a lot less games than our main midfielders.

He's not our first choice central midfielder, why see him as a barrier to success?

couple of years ago, united fans ridiculed fletcher and oshea

fergie kept faith as he probably knows more than the average fan about football.

rafa is the same, i think he knows what he's talking about.
in a couple of years, lucas will probably be the same sort of player. not world class, but a good squad player for a top 4 club, or a starter for most others

I just found the IGNORE button!!

whatawaster

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Should that not just be expected, with the money he's on and the fact that he gets to play for Liverpool even though he's nowhere near good enough to, damn right he should give 100% and even thats not good enough.
Never booed him, but i understand people that do.

You condone people booing a player who is doing everything he can. Giving 100%. If you think he’s not good enough, fine, boo whoever picks him. But to boo a player doing literally everything they can to play well is pathetic.

Fink Goddie

opr wrote: »

Maybe cause people keep replying to him ?

Opr

I have people giving out and accusing me of all sorts and going through all my posts to try get some sort of dirt on me.

Seriously can you people not have a debate.
Like omg someone thinks a player that i like is [EMAIL="cr@p"]cr@p[/EMAIL], whats the world coming to.
You're all replying to me, stop if you cant handle it!

Dublin_Gunner

rarnes1 wrote: »

I just found the IGNORE button!!

And I found its arch nemesis - the "Quote" button


Fink - you've said enough now about Lucas, exactly what is your problem with Voronin??

I'd say 11 goals in 21 appearances last season says you're talking out of your sh1te pipe.

Fink Goddie

whatawaster wrote: »

You condone people booing a player who is doing everything he can. Giving 100%. If you think he’s not good enough, fine, boo whoever picks him. But to boo a player doing literally everything they can to play well is pathetic.

People pay a lot of money to go see Liverpool. Lucas gets paid a lot of money and he's a big boy now so i'm sure he can take it.
People get frustrated when rafa keeps putting him on the pitch and he's not good enough

Fink Goddie

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

And I found its arch nemesis - the "Quote" button


Fink - you've said enough now about Lucas, exactly what is your problem with Voronin??

I'd say 11 goals in 21 appearances last season says you're talking out of your sh1te pipe.

Why wasnt Voronin sent off on loan if he's so good?

Talkin out of my sh1t pipe i love the way you people cant have a debate without getting all sensitive about it.

whatawaster

Fink Goddie wrote: »

People get frustrated when rafa keeps putting him on the pitch and he's not good enough

i think it's more that people are bufoons, who heard Dunphy or some journalist saying he was the worst Brazilian ever, regardless of the fact that we won plenty of big games with him in the team, and lost or drew against poor teams with Xabi in the team and playing. But still Lucas is at the heart of all our woes. I'm f*cking sick to death of it.

stevoslice

Fink Goddie wrote: »

Why wasnt Voronin sent off on loan if he's so good?

Talkin out of my sh1t pipe i love the way you people cant have a debate without getting all sensitive about it.

i love the way one poster will come on here and disagree with everything else thats contradictory to their own point of view, without making a reasonable case of their own. :-D

remember when gerrard was 15, he was so sh1te, shoulda got rid of him then.

missingtime

This Fink Goodie character has certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Fink Goddie

whatawaster wrote: »

i think it's more that people are bufoons, who heard Dunphy or some journalist saying he was the worst Brazilian ever, regardless of the fact that we won plenty of big games with him in the team, and lost or drew against poor teams with Xabi in the team and playing. But still Lucas is at the heart of all our woes. I'm f*cking sick to death of it.

Yes we should have a team of Lucas's because he's that good!

If someone doesnt agree with your opinion they're a bufoon!