Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Cyrus

Esse85 wrote: »

If he's that good why were'nt any of the top teams in Spain interested or top teams in Europe for that matter?

Id say he'll be little better than average, but he'll fit in well with the likes of Benayoun, Babel, Pennant and Voronin, he'll have a lot in common with them.

who says they werent?

and benayoun is a decent squad player, ala park at united, babel has massive potential and has had a very good first season, pennant wasnt the best buy to be fair but will likely be moved on at small loss and voronin was free and its 3/4 choice

there are some many retarded posts in this thread now its not funny any more, people have decided the guy is crap because of a dodgy 6 month spell at a relegation threatened team.

dont remember the united fans moaning about how louis saha was a flop at newcastle before he excelled at fulham :mad:

Cyrus

herbieflowers wrote: »

Cos he's a world-beater now that he's joined Liverpool.

or becuase he is crap becuase he joined liverpool, that seems to be the thrust of the argument from all the ABL's in here

Esse85

Karmafaerie wrote: »

What, another player that pulls on the Red jersey, and doesn't get the respect he deserves.
You're probably right there.

No another over priced and over hyped player, Man City fans will tell you how good he was:p

~Rebel~

herbieflowers wrote: »

well it's useless making judgements before he's even kicked a ball

Exactly. Looks like a done deal now, so theres little point in slating him or building him up before he's even takin to the field.

Give him 10 games and we'll see what we see. He probably wont have settled in totally by then but it should be enough time to see flashes of what he's capable, or not capable, of.

LuckyLloyd

Mr Alan wrote: »

wasnt he the best LW in Spain last season?

He looked worldclass when Espanyol were playing well in the first half of the season - but frankly was pants when they struggled after Christmas.

Karmafaerie

Esse85 wrote: »

No another over priced and over hyped player, Man City fans will tell you how good he was:p

And Espanyol and Bordeaux fans will laugh in the Man City fans collective faces.

PiE

Cyrus wrote: »

or becuase he is crap becuase he joined liverpool, that seems to be the thrust of the argument from all the ABL's in here

The really pathetic thing is that most of these "ABLs" actually profess to being Liverpool fans.

~Rebel~

Esse85 wrote: »

No another over priced and over hyped player, Man City fans will tell you how good he was:p

over priced and over hyped? God yeah, 8million was a serious rip off - a little more then Michael Chopra or kieran Richardson cost? no, we cant be having that! And i can hardly move for all the "Riera; the new Maradonna" stories that are in the papers daily! if anything he's up there with the most underhyped players around at the moment. 90% of the time the name 'Riera' is followed by 'flopped at city'.

how about instead of being ridiculous we act like rational human beings and see how it works out.

Reganio 2

Cyrus wrote: »

there are some many retarded posts in this thread now its not funny any more, people have decided the guy is crap because of a dodgy 6 month spell at a relegation threatened team.

And people are saying he is great because of his 2 years at a club that finished 11th and 12th in them 2 years?

Karmafaerie

Reganio 2 wrote: »

And people are saying he is great because of his 2 years at a club that finished 11th and 12th in them 2 years?

And him helping to drive Bordeaux to the UEFA Cup quater finals.

So he plays well for three years in two different clubs, and badly for 6 months on loan, so obviously it's the six months that mean more!

:rolleyes:


And nobody here is saying that he's great, we're saying some people should kop on assuming he's gonna be crap before he even plays a game!

mike65

Tell ya what kiddies read ~rebels~ post then leave.

Mike

kida

For pool fans - do you really think the 30M spent on wing and strikers this summer was wisely spent - I would have thought the ratio of 2:1 would have been better advised spent the other way around.

Reganio 2

Vladimir Smicer helped us win the Champions League, was he a good player, no.
He played well in one tournament, any time I have seen him he has not been impressive and that's the bases I have to go on. I will give him a chance obviously and pray that he does well but on an internet message board should we not discuss what we think of him and what he is gonna do.

PHB

Interesting signing, at least signals that Rafa does think there is a problem on the wings to be fixed.

noodler

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Vladimir Smicer helped us win the Champions League, was he a good player, no.
He played well in one tournament, any time I have seen him he has not been impressive and that's the bases I have to go on. I will give him a chance obviously and pray that he does well but on an internet message board should we not discuss what we think of him and what he is gonna do.

Smicer not a good player? Lets keep some perspective here folks.

missingtime

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Vladimir Smicer helped us win the Champions League, was he a good player, no.

Smicer has a place in our hearts because of that game. It doesn't matter if he was good or bad.

zAbbo

kida wrote: »

For pool fans - do you really think the 30M spent on wing and strikers this summer was wisely spent - I would have thought the ratio of 2:1 would have been better advised spent the other way around.

Ok, here's 30m, which players would you have bought?

Personally I think we've bought well, and only time can tell if it was worth it. I'm pleased with Ngog, Keane and Reira, and also Dossena at LB. Degen is a bit unknown but was signed as cover.

Karmafaerie

PHB wrote: »

Interesting signing, at least signals that Rafa does think there is a problem on the wings to be fixed.

No.

Rafa got rid of two players from the left.
Kewel/Riise.
He then brought in two new players.
Dossena/Riera.

Simple maths.

And Rafa has been saying that we need to sign a player for the left for two months now, it wasn't some secret or anything!

DeadSkin

Smicer was an average inconsistent player.

zAbbo

PHB wrote: »

Interesting signing, at least signals that Rafa does think there is a problem on the wings to be fixed.

The 'problem' is that Liverpool never really played or needed wingers until the change in formation (using attacking wide players in a 4-2-3-1)

19 championships and 5 european cups, and I'd struggle to name a genuine quality winger... Barnes, Macca maybe...

Rafa in recent seasons has tried to rectify the wide areas with Pennant, Babel and Yossi.

I think the Keane money was earmarked for a quality wide player, but when the chance came up, and using the Crouch money - it was a small outlay for a quality PL striker - so he went for it.

missingtime

DeadSkin wrote: »

Smicer was an average inconsistent player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khIDirrXp4

2:53
:P

Draupnir

zAbbo wrote: »

19 championships and 5 european cups, and I'd struggle to name a genuine quality winger... Barnes, Macca maybe...

You've only won 18 championships?

DeadSkin

missingtime wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2khIDirrXp4

2:53
:P

I probably cheered as much as you did that night my friend, no doubting the quality of that goal.
Doesn't change the fact how average he was thru' his Liverpool years

missingtime

DeadSkin wrote: »

I probably cheered as much as you did that night my friend, no doubting the quality of that goal.
Doesn't change the fact how average he was thru' his Liverpool years

Yea I know...god I really really want us to win something this year.

gixerfixer

machiavellianme wrote: »

Us if we won the league under him!

Sorry thats just whats wrong with football nowadays. I wouldnt want to win the league or European cup with him at the helm.Victory at all costs No thanks very much. Other fans will disagree but for me i'd rather things done the right way.

podge018

Can all the Liverpool fans slating the signing of Riera reply to this post with one word. Name the winger we should have signed instead.

zAbbo

Draupnir wrote: »

You've only won 18 championships?

I was thinking ahead

Cyrus

well sure isnt it obvious

we should have signed ronaldo from united and robinho from real and probably kaka instead of keane

or it least thats the general sentiment :rolleyes:

missingtime

podge018 wrote: »

Can all the Liverpool fans slating the signing of Riera reply to this post with one word. Name the winger we should have signed instead.

A lot of people said Silva. Or Downing.

meditraitor

podge018 wrote: »

Can all the Liverpool fans slating the signing of Riera reply to this post with one word. Name the winger we should have signed instead.

Messi

gixerfixer

missingtime wrote: »

A lot of people said Silva. Or Downing.

For 8 million?:D

Mr Alan

Silva would have cost at least 3 times wat Riera cost and signed a new 5 year deal at Valencia after the Euros.

And Downing probably about 2 times what he cost.

podge018

Downing is average in the Boro side, he's not a CL player.

Silva I've only seen in the euros and while there was glimpses of a good player, there was a lot of time he done nothing. Spain would have won the competition without him. How they can choose one over the other of Riera or Silva I don't know. The only plus Silva gets from is his age, 5 years younger than Riera, but a hell of a lot more expensive too.

DeadSkin

podge018 wrote: »

Can all the Liverpool fans slating the signing of Riera reply to this post with one word. Name the winger we should have signed instead.

For £8m? I dunno!!
I'm not slating Reira, but I know sweet feck all about him.

I'd like Downing, but we're probably talkin' £14m?

~Rebel~

DeadSkin wrote: »

For £8m? I dunno!!
I'm not slating Reira, but I know sweet feck all about him.

I'd like Downing, but we're probably talkin' £14m?

at the very minimum, but most likely another few million on top.

missingtime

gixerfixer wrote: »

For 8 million?:D

Yea both of em, performance based.

gixerfixer

We would have had to pay at least 18m for downing. Rafa cant afford overhyped average english players. IMO we have dodged a bullet not signing Milner,Downing or to a lesser extent Barry.

gixerfixer

Statement from spirit of Shankly in response to todays announcement.

http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/Reds-Confirm-New-LFC-Stadium-Delay.html

Mr Alan

has everyone/anyone joined up to the Union by the way?

gixerfixer

Signed up online myself. It's only a tenner. Or 12 euro

LuckyLloyd

I'd have taken Milner.

ibh

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd have taken Milner.

Taken him out and shot him!!!:eek:

Karmafaerie

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd have taken Milner.

For half again what Riera cost?

Milner= £12,000,000
Riera = £8,000,000

eagle eye

Karmafaerie wrote: »

For half again what Riera cost?

Milner= £12,000,000
Riera = £8,000,000

You just bought a player for 8 mill who failed to make it in the premiership with Man. City.

I think Milner is better value at 22 years of age and a proven premiership performer.

Karmafaerie

eagle eye wrote: »

You just bought a player for 8 mill who failed to make it in the premiership with Man. City.

I think Milner is better value at 22 years of age and a proven premiership performer.

And how many European games has Milner played in?
And how many has he scored?
And how many International caps has he gotten?

herbieflowers

why is the fact that he played for City for a short period being regurgitated over and over? It's irrelevant.

Dont be at yourself

I dont know if Riera is any good or not, but I do that it is essential that we added width.

Even the introduction of El Zhar hugely improved our game when he has come on, and Riera hopefully offers more than him in terms of end product.

We'll give him time!

eagle eye

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

I dont know if Riera is any good or not, but I do that it is essential that we added width.

Even the introduction of El Zhar hugely improved our game when he has come on, and Riera hopefully offers more than him in terms of end product.

We'll give him time!

I fully agree that any player who can play wide is a good signing for Liverpool and badly needed.

I am not saying he won't turn out to be a fantastic buy either, my point is that James Milner at 12 mill and 22 years of age is a much safer option than Albert Riera at 26 who could not cut it in the PL two years ago. We all know he has improved since returning to Spain and a Spanish manager will make a big difference. I just don't agree with anyone saying that Milner at 12m is not worth it if you shell out 8m for this lad.

~Rebel~

herbieflowers wrote: »

why is the fact that he played for City for a short period being regurgitated over and over? It's irrelevant.

now you can see why i snapped the other day

Villain

Just for the record all reports I have read say the Figure for Milner was 10 million pounds and the Deal for Riera is meant to be 9 Million pounds, who is better? Only time will tell