Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

orourkeda

Doodee wrote: »

and I never once suggested Panic buying.

We have been linked to plenty of quality players but have not seen any action from O'Neill.

I'm not a fan of Robbie Keane, I do not feel he would work well at Villa.

And I agree that Robbie Keane would not be the best of signings.

You seem to be putting all of the blame on the manager for lack of signings. Why is this when he is not the only interested party.

mirwillbeback

orourkeda wrote: »

Retard

orourkeda wrote: »

There's no need to get personal. I didnt do that to you. I'm more than capable of counting to three thanks very much. Why dont you just stick to the issue.

Pot.....Kettle

orourkeda

mirwillbeback wrote: »

Pot.....Kettle

I got banned for that remark. I insulted you that time not him and by the way I wasnt talking to you. Besides, when was that posted. You must have gone back at least a month for that.

Helix

death1234567 wrote: »

how do you know this?

because litex lovex announced it when he signed for psv

Helix

orourkeda wrote: »

What I meant by panic buying was, bringing players to the club who are signed for the sake of it and who dont improve things. I'm sure you dont want this to happen.

sure thats what we usually do

orourkeda

Helix wrote: »

sure thats what we usually do

Doesnt everybody?

mirwillbeback

orourkeda wrote: »

and by the way I wasnt talking to you. Besides, when was that posted. You must have gone back at least a month for that.

Only a few weeks ago actually. And PS - " I wasn't talking to you " - it's an open discussion forum and if it's one to one you want try PM's.

Back on topic......

orourkeda

mirwillbeback wrote: »

Only a few weeks ago actually. And PS - " I wasn't talking to you " - it's an open discussion forum and if it's one to one you want try PM's.

Back on topic......

Thanks after your little unnecessary diversion

matrim

Helix wrote: »

because litex lovex announced it when he signed for psv

In fairness they rejected a lower bid from us and a higher bid from someone else. From what I gathered the reason the went for the PSV bid is because PSV offered 20% of his sell on fee

Helix

doesnt matter, we were still outbid

One Cold Hand

orourkeda wrote: »

What I meant by panic buying was, bringing players to the club who are signed for the sake of it and who dont improve things. I'm sure you dont want this to happen.

But at the minute we can't really panic buy. We need 2 centre backs for cover, even if they are awful. Buying ANY 2 centre backs wouldn't be panic buying, as that would 'improve things' (obviously we would want as good a player as possible). Neither would buying a right back for cover. Or a 3rd goalkeeper. Or another striker. Or a right winger to cover Milner. These would only be panic buys if we had all this already, but we don't.

edit: Panic Buying is argueably buying a 12m player who is injured until dec, for the position we are argueably strongest in.

orourkeda

One Cold Hand wrote: »

But at the minute we can't really panic buy. We need 2 centre backs for cover, even if they are awful. Buying ANY 2 centre backs wouldn't be panic buying, as that would 'improve things' (obviously we would want as good a player as possible). Neither would buying a right back for cover. Or a 3rd goalkeeper. Or another striker. Or a right winger to cover Milner. These would only be panic buys if we had all this already, but we don't.

What is the point of bringing players to the club that are not of the required standard. The whole idea of having them as cover is that they can come in and perform at the level required if necessary. If the management were to take this attitude we'd be relegation fodder.

Buying an England International isnt panic buying. Not in my view. (The injury isnt ideal but we'll wait and see how that pans out)

Savman

like a bunch of aul wans today tbh.

One Cold Hand

orourkeda wrote: »

What is the point of bringing players to the club that are not of the required standard. The whole idea of having them as cover is that they can come in and perform at the level required if necessary. If the management were to take this attitude we'd be relegation fodder.

We'll be relegation fodder if we start the season with 2 centre backs.

orourkeda

One Cold Hand wrote: »

We'll be relegation fodder if we start the season with 2 centre backs.

So you'd sign 2 donkeys. Just to have them. Regardless of their ability. Surely you cant be serious. I agree that we need at least one more centre half. You'll not get any argument from me there. To go to the other extreme is equally pointless though. Why not just bring back Zat Knight

death1234567

Helix wrote: »

because litex lovex announced it when he signed for psv

Have you a link, I'm having a go at you I just wouldn't mind reading what they said.

One Cold Hand

orourkeda wrote: »

So you'd sign 2 donkeys. Just to have them. Regardless of their ability. Surely you cant be serious. I agree that we need at least one more centre half. You'll not get any argument from me there. To go to the other extreme is equally pointless though. Why not just bring back Zat Knight

Well why sell him without signing 2 CBs first? Then if he's the worst of the 5 of them, then fine, get rid of him.

When I said we need ANY centre back, I obviously didn't mean 2 Gary Breens. But I did mean that we need 2 CBs, even if they're not an improvement on Cuellar or Davies.

Tomthepost

One Cold Hand wrote: »

We'll be relegation fodder if we start the season with 2 centre backs.

Post yesterday but worth putting in again in response to above

My First 11 as it stands, I think I would like 3 5 2.

Friedel GK
Cuellar RCB / L Young
Davis CB
Bouma LCB / L Young
Milner RW
A Young LW
R Coker RCM / Sidwell
Petrov CM
Downing LCM / Sidwell
Carew
Gabby

13 Above and whats left and creditable
Heskey
Shorey
Gardner
Fonz
Bannon
Osbourne
Balu

Even Mark Hughes could keep this squad in the top 10!

orourkeda

One Cold Hand wrote: »

Well why sell him without signing 2 CBs first? Then if he's the worst of the 5 of them, then fine, get rid of him.

When I said we need ANY centre back, I obviously didn't mean 2 Gary Breens. But I did mean that we need 2 CBs, even if they're not an improvement on Cuellar or Davies.

Ideally they'd at least be of a similar quality and in a perfect world they'd be better. However, were not living in a perfect world so we may just have to make do with a couple of stopgaps. I still feel this is an area we'll strengthen though. I think selling Zat Knight (at a modest profit) was probably for the best.

Helix

death1234567 wrote: »

Have you a link, I'm having a go at you I just wouldn't mind reading what they said.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12875_5455038,00.html
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2009/07/27/pompey-demand-4-5m-for-distin-97319-24247655/

Helix

Tomthepost wrote: »

Post yesterday but worth putting in again in response to above

My First 11 as it stands, I think I would like 3 5 2.

Friedel GK
Cuellar RCB / L Young
Davis CB
Bouma LCB / L Young
Milner RW
A Young LW
R Coker RCM / Sidwell
Petrov CM
Downing LCM / Sidwell
Carew
Gabby

13 Above and whats left and creditable
Heskey
Shorey
Gardner
Fonz
Bannon
Osbourne
Balu

Even Mark Hughes could keep this squad in the top 10!

lol

yeh wonderful idea. lets play 3 at the back, considering 4 at the back was a mess last year... thatll definitely work

its not 1995 any more

orourkeda

Helix wrote: »

lol

yeh wonderful idea. lets play 3 at the back, considering 4 at the back was a mess last year... thatll definitely work

its not 1995 any more

This argument isnt completely relevant

Tomthepost

Helix wrote: »

lol

yeh wonderful idea. lets play 3 at the back, considering 4 at the back was a mess last year... thatll definitely work

its not 1995 any more

It cant be any worst than when Laursen was out last year. Also this could easily considered as a 5 3 2 option Milner, Downing and L Young used as wing backs.

JPA

Tomthepost wrote: »

It cant be any worst than when Laursen was out last year. Also this could easily considered as a 5 3 2 option Milner, Downing and L Young used as wing backs.

I'm with Helix on this one, what are you on about? We'll play 4 at the back. what happens in front of them is up for debate.

Tomthepost

JPA wrote: »

I'm with Helix on this one, what are you on about? We'll play 4 at the back. what happens in front of them is up for debate.

Im on about making the most of what you have!
I expect a back 4 also but as it stands the back 3 (or 5 if you like) would be our best option.
Speaking of panic buys
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8690_5459851,00.html
We don't need this guy IMO and I don't rate him.
With that said if he does join and becomes the first villa striker in donkeys years to score 20 league goals I will be very happy digesting my humble pie.

JPA

Tomthepost wrote: »

Im on about making the most of what you have!
I expect a back 4 also but as it stands the back 3 (or 5 if you like) would be our best option.
Speaking of panic buys
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8690_5459851,00.html
We don't need this guy IMO and I don't rate him.
With that said if he does join and becomes the first villa striker in donkeys years to score 20 league goals I will be very happy digesting my humble pie.

I know what you're saying about the formation but it won't happen.
If we're stuck someone will fill in to make a back 4.

As for Bent, well IMO we need a new striker, Bent is overpriced but he'd score goals for us.

orourkeda

He's grossly overpriced

JPA

Villa Team: Villa: Guzan; Lichaj, Davies, Cuellar, Shorey; Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Petrov, Young; Carew, Heskey.


Villa are playing at 7:30 if anyone didn't know.

invincibleirish

I'd take Bent in a heartbeat, The signing alone would concentrate the minds of Carew & Agbonlahor in a way that Heskeys signing never could.

I'd say Atlante are handy if they had the beating of Malaga, can't see CD & CC dealing effectively with speedy gonzalez strikers.

JPA

invincibleirish wrote: »

I'd take Bent in a heartbeat, The signing alone would concentrate the minds of Carew & Agbonlahor in a way that Heskeys signing never could.

Heskey helped up Carews game or so it seemed, we'd see the same out of Gabby I'd imagine, as well as allowing for rotation/resting.

villains77

any links for the game tongiht

invincibleirish

Should be up on this

http://www.atdhe.net/index.html

Didn't think Lichaj was great on Saturday but am hopeful he'll make the step up and MON won't have to spend any ching-ching.

villains77

doesnt look good wit only downing to show and nearly 2 weeks to go b4 the wigan game fair enough the window is closed end of august. but were bette off signing now so at least they would have some sort of pre season and get to know the new players before the wigan game. really wish mon would by some quality players SOON !!!!!!!!!!!!

JPA

Here I think http://www.veetle.com/viewChannel.php?cid=49923c8e9dfcc

orourkeda

villains77 wrote: »

any links for the game tongiht

Just having a quick look here

matrim

The veetle link is very good and in English

villains77

any better links keeps jumping

Helix

invincibleirish wrote: »

Didn't think Lichaj was great on Saturday but am hopeful he'll make the step up and MON won't have to spend any ching-ching.

i thought he was very promising apart from the balls up for the goal

Helix

stan looks like he dislocated his shoulder

Helix

jesus we really are rubbish lol

Töpher

Shocking goal to score/concede.

Bounty Hunter

a fudge it! just turn on a stream in time to see what looked like Petrov leaving the pitch injured and hear the commentator taking 2 minutes to say the word goal cos Atlante had scored.

Esse85

Petrov gone off injured and 1-0, ha ha are you watching MON

Helix

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

a fudge it! just turn on a stream in time to see what looked like Petrov leaving the pitch injured

looks like a dislocated shoulder im afraid

JPA

Lichaj is terrible really. Not good enough AT all.

orourkeda

Helix wrote: »

stan looks like he dislocated his shoulder

Really? I just stepped out for a minute and missed it

Helix

orourkeda wrote: »

Really? I just stepped out for a minute and missed it

ah, heavy fall then the opponent landed on him

albrighton on for him now

Bounty Hunter

anyone know how long a dislocated shoulder would keep you out? time for the Villa fans to go into meltdown even more so if a midfielder isnt signed in the next few days

Helix

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

anyone know how long a dislocated shoulder would keep you out? time for the Villa fans to go into meltdown even more so if a midfielder isnt signed in the next few days

depends what damage was done

davies played with a dislocated shoulder for most of the second half of the season, whereas luke moore had to miss a load of games and go to a specialist to have the socket rebuilt because it kept slipping out when he jumped

orourkeda

Should be 2 0