Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Esse85

wynters wrote: »

NRC did a decent job at right full against big teams, he had Ronaldo in his pocket against United which is no mean feat. I think he just lacked some match sharpness yesterday. He was a yard off the pace. I do think however that he could be one of the best holding midfielders in the league if given a run in that position.

As good as Mascherano, Essien.... Hardly:rolleyes:

I think O'Neill rates O'Halloran, he went on loan to Leeds and did his knee ligaments in his first game or something didn't he? I dont think he does, i expect Stephen O'Halloran to be released at the end of the season.

Edit: The Fulham defenders had Ronaldo in their pocket on Saturday, any player/team can play a once off blinder, a full season playing in the same position will show the true capabilities of a player.

MementoMori

wynters wrote: »

NRC did a decent job at right full against big teams, he had Ronaldo in his pocket against United which is no mean feat. I think he just lacked some match sharpness yesterday. He was a yard off the pace. I do think however that he could be one of the best holding midfielders in the league if given a run in that position. ?

Full-back is a specialist position and long-term you just won't get away with using players who are not familiar with the role though. I think NRC could definately do a very good job as a DMC.

wynters wrote: »

I think O'Neill rates O'Halloran, he went on loan to Leeds and did his knee ligaments in his first game or something didn't he?

Esse85 wrote: »

I dont think he does, i expect O'Halloran to be release at the end of the season.

I head something similar about O'Halloran - maybe here?

Bounty Hunter

MementoMori wrote: »

Just out of interest what would you like to see in the summer regarding transfers? Are there any players you think should move on? Where are the most important areas to focus on? How many players would you envision MON signing?

Personally id like Villa to go for players like:

Micheal Mancienne (Chelsea) to replace Knight
Dario Srna - I wanted him before we signed L.Young & Milner, hes at Shaktar and is croatias RWB/RM usually but can play along the left too, great for any squad imo.
Mauro Zarate - Or someone of his ilk if we are to go 442 all the time
then to compliment Barry in a 451 or replace him someone like Montolivio although a more likely target if we have no CL and thus maybe no Barry would be someone like Niko Krankjar (SP?) from Portsmouth.
Ive also seen links to players like Defour from Liege who could be what we need but tbh i havent seen enough of him myself.

tbh id agree with Esse85 the next batch of players are ones we will probably need to look outside of the Prem (where in particular there are very few top fullbacks available) for.

We need to upgrade on players like Knight, Harewood, Shorey and co with this next wave of signings before/as the abbove are moved on (most likely to newly promoted sides).

shoutman

The thing that is clear is that MON doesn't mind paying over the odds for a player he wants.

Ash Young is a clear example of this, in hindsight he has been a steal for the money we paid for him.

I think Cuellar, Davies Reo-Coker and Milner were all overpaid for but that said I think they will owe Villa nothing when they end up moving on. They all are players who have not fully developed and who have the potential to be quality players.

Players I would like to see us bring in: A quality proven goalscorer (Doyle perhaps? maybe a sneaky bid for Lucas Padolski) An attacking midfielder (I would do bad things in order to get Arteta or Cahill from everton), A good backup RB and LB of at least the same standard of that currently at the club. I would also like a Right winger capable of beating players ala Ash Young to provide a bit of competition and cover for injuries (Milner can switch to the left should he get injured.
Also Laursen isn't going to last much longer and as already stated Davies and Cuellar are not really attacking defenders ie. don't aggressively attack the ball. A big strong Vidic style replacement would be great, no names spring to mind though.

wynters

"As good as Mascherano, Essien.... Hardly:rolleyes:"

Yes. NRC has the potential to be every bit as good imo.

In terms of possible signings this summer, I think after this season - whatever happens, we'll be a much more attractive proposition for higher profile players compared to last year. Also, it's the season before the World Cup, so good players on the fringes of their international teams/squads have their WC place to think about aswell. Good players will be willing to move.

We'll be 3 years into the famous 5 year plan, so if we're gonna think big, I'd like to see us go for the following;

Lescott. Of all the players we could go for, this one is a complete no brainer for me. Lescott is a local lad and lifelong Villa fan. As are his family. This summer he'll have 2 years left on his contract. With Laursen looking increasingly like he has a limited amount of mileage on the clock (I'm thinking Paul McGrath's dodgy knees!) a VERY good centre half is a must. With a new stadium imminent, Everton don't appear to have the resources to progress much further up the league (sorry x in the city), City look like they could overtake a few teams next year so IF we finish above Everton this year, and can offer the player a better deal, a move to his hometown club trying for CL football would be a good career move in a season before the World Cup.

and/or Micah Richards. We were rumoured to be after him in January, and O'Neill didn't come out and deny it as far as I know, as he has done with other rumours that there was no truth in. City have no problem scoring but they do concede. With the intentions and amount of money City have, they'll be buying some very high profile players in all positions. I'd imagine a few defenders will be high on that list so Richards could be available. Again, a place in the WC squad will be on his mind.

Bentley. The lad is a fckng dingbat, but he was one of the players of the season last year, and - used properly, could easily be as good again. I know we have Milner for that side but competition and options are what we need. Bentley can play in a more creative central role too. Which we're crying out for. Redknapp doesn't appear to favour him, and he's another player O'Neill has been interested in previously. A place in the World Cup squad to think of too, and with Aaron Lennon playing in that position ahead of him at the same club, he'll have to move-on to compete for that WC place properly.

I'd like to see those 3 for starters.... That calibre of player. There are others too who might have itchy feet like Anderson at United, Alex at Chelsea, and McGeady. What about Scott Parker? or Tim Cahill? and we desperately need a couple of strikers. Is Kevin Doyle really any better than what we already have? Would Michael Owen stay fit enough? What about Diego at Bremen, currently 10th in the Bundesliga. He wants out of there big-time. Trezeguet??? Being kept out of the Juve team all season long by Iaquinta. 31 now, Last stab at a World Cup??? Grosso at Lyon???

It's time for the club to think BIG. We're still upwardly mobile, with a higher profile than last summer so we should try capitalise on that momentum THIS SUMMER or risk having less of an opportunity to do it next year if we don't continue to progess.

Mr Alan

please tell me you didnt just say that NRC can be as good as Mascherano or Essien?

oh ffs.

Neil3030

Esse85 wrote: »

Harewood, Knight, Reo Coker, Sidwell, Milner, Shorey, Davies, Heskey and Cuellar have all been a waste of money so far

If each were sold in the summer, not one of them would recoup the amount paid for them. All would be sold at a loss.
Apart from Cuellar, whats the common denominator with them??
Their all expensive English over hyped players.

Compare Vidic(£7m) with Davies(£10m) or Cuellar(£7.8m)
Compare Evra(£5.5m)/Clichy with Shorey(£4.5m)
Compare Santa Cruz(3.5m) with Harewood(£4m), Heskey(3.5m)
Compare Diarra(£6m) to Reo Coker(£8.5)
Compare Ronaldo(£12m) to Milner(£12)

Now granted most of these players wouldnt of considered joining Villa in the first place, it just goes to show how Randy Lerner is getting raped in the transfer market by MON's inability to identify a players potential. The above players all bar Diarra came to their club via a foreign league.

I feel its time for MON to start utilising his scouting networks across the globe or continue to be short changed by expensive over rated young English players.

Just my opinion...

I would love to see Villa sweep up some bargains abroad, but in fairness we were the darlings of the media during our purple patch for having such a strong nucleus of homegrown (for the English at least) players. In fact, there may have been one or two plastic paddies on here celebrating the 'homegrown' orientation of the Villa squad.

We're all pissed off at the minute because we've slipped from the CL places, haven't won a game since February and now look like battling to finish 5th. But none of that is due to where MON gets his players from. It's down mostly down to our overall weakness in depth, but there's also the combination of tactical errors (breaking a winning formation to accommodate a striker who doesn't score goals :rolleyes:), maybe fatigue (we have been on the go since early July with our small team) and in some circumstances just plain old bad luck.

In an event, MON could have kept within his model of near-to-home scouting and still given us a squad that is far stronger than it is at present. He could have backed up the LB spot over the summer with Wayne Bridge, or even a young buck* like Mattock. Right back cover could have been catered for with a Hoyte or comparable standard player. He could have bought Doyle, Defoe, Bent, Sturridge or Crouch to add depth to the strike-force. He could have bought Michael Johnson or even Jimmy Bullard to have some midfielders in the squad that could offer something different.

But the point is, he didn't. Regardless of where these players are from, what their resale value would be, or how inflated their prices might be in comparison to well scouted European talent, MON failed to (or perhaps decided not to) add any further bodies to the team. Now we find ourselves face-planted into a brick wall at a pivotal point in the season, tempers are skewing perspectives and what was once considered our strongest asset is being questioned as a liability, which really misses the issue if you ask me.



*I want to use this word more now, Paul O'Connell is my hero

Bounty Hunter

Mr Alan wrote: »

please tell me you didnt just say that NRC can be as good as Mascherano or Essien?

oh ffs.

NRC is nowhere near their level! He could fill the role well maybe and could still improve yes but they are the best in the world and he isnt near that level.

Diego would be a great signing but i would imagine a team in the CL might make him an offer if he moves.

Martins from Newcastle could be a good signing (maybe cheap too if they go down) as it would give us 2 strikers good enough to start in each forwards position as well as The Fonz as backup (assuming Marlon moves on for good). One of the Speedsters Martins/Gabby & Carew/Heskey holding the ball up for the them in attack.

wynters

Mr Alan wrote: »

please tell me you didnt just say that NRC can be as good as Mascherano or Essien?

oh ffs.

I said 'potentially' yes. If givena run in that position. Sorry if that doesn'nt compute José Mourinho.

Tired of your antagonism. I'd like to continue on this forum because I'm very interested in what other Villa fans have to say, so before I act on the serious urge to say something extremely polite, which might result in a ban for yours truly, I'll simply be blocking all your posts from now-on.

Thank you Mr. Alan. And good night.

MementoMori

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Micheal Mancienne (Chelsea) to replace Knight.

Really can't see Chelsea letting him go. Also think he's been at Chelsea since we was nine or something. Would really be surprised if he moved.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Dario Srna - I wanted him before we signed L.Young & Milner, hes at Shaktar and is croatias RWB/RM usually but can play along the left too, great for any squad imo.

Would add something to the squad as a different type of player to Milner on the right. Don't think he plays on the left much, though.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Mauro Zarate - Or someone of his ilk if we are to go 442 all the time then to compliment Barry in a 451 or replace him someone like Montolivio although a more likely target if we have no CL and thus maybe no Barry would be someone like Niko Krankjar (SP?) from Portsmouth.

Zarate is an interesting one. A fair bit depends on what happens with Barry. Portsmouth are in financial trouble so could well be looking for cash in the summer so Krankjar could be a possibility.

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Ive also seen links to players like Defour from Liege who could be what we need but tbh i havent seen enough of him myself.

Don't know anything about him either but if Barry did leave then an AMC would seem to be an necessity especially given Petrov's age.

shoutman wrote: »

Players I would like to see us bring in: A quality proven goalscorer (Doyle perhaps? maybe a sneaky bid for Lucas Padolski)

Doyle would seem to be to be a very good fit for MON and would add a different type of option up front. A lot could depend on whether Reading get promoted or not. I can't see him moving if they do get promoted but if they don't it increases the possibility quite considerably. Podolski could be a runner too.

shoutman wrote: »

An attacking midfielder (I would do bad things in order to get Arteta or Cahill from everton)

I really really can't see either of them leaving Everton. However anyone of a similar quality would be a huge plus.

shoutman wrote: »

A good backup RB and LB of at least the same standard of that currently at the club.

Yup - it really is a glaring weakness in the squad at the moment.

shoutman wrote: »

I would also like a Right winger capable of beating players ala Ash Young to provide a bit of competition and cover for injuries (Milner can switch to the left should he get injured.

What would you folks think of Pennant? It's unlikely that Portsmouth will be able to sign him and he would be available on a free in the summer. Any interest?

shoutman wrote: »

Also Laursen isn't going to last much longer and as already stated Davies and Cuellar are not really attacking defenders ie. don't aggressively attack the ball. A big strong Vidic style replacement would be great, no names spring to mind though.

I think the Mancienne suggestion above was kinda getting at the same thing.

For myself I agree about both a RB and LB of similar or better quality to what is already in the squad. Glen Johnson at Portsmouth might be an option if MON wants PL experience. If Portsmouth do go down the likelihood of him moving jumps up immensely but he has recently signed a contract extension. Also Liverpool have called first dibs on him ;) With Portsmouth's financial situation they may be open to offers. I can't think of any other players for these spots in the PL at the moment.

A young, decent CB as cover for Laursen/upgrade on Knight would also seem to makes sense.

With the forwards I think at least one forward is needed and maybe two. I think Harewood is gone and I think Delfounso is still too young for more than bit part cameos next season. That just leaves Carew, Heskey and Gabby. Looking at Heskey's career goal scoring record I just don't think he can be considered as anything more than a squad player. Two quality forwards would make a massive difference to the look of the squad.

Midfield - A fair lot depends on what happens with Barry. I don't really rate Sidwell and don't think he can be considered as anything more than a squad player. A decent attacking midfielder would look like a wise choice.A RM who would offer an alternative to Milner would also seem to make sense.

So just a LB, RB, CB, RM, FW at the very least by the looks of it.

If MON wants to stay with PL experience I'm pretty sure Man City and Spurs will be having a bit of a clear out given the size of their clubs. There is also the case that both Portsmouth and West Ham are supposed to be in pretty serious financial difficulties and might be willing to cash in on a player or two. Also there is the possibiltiy of maybe signing someone from whoever gets relegated. At the moment that looks like two from Middlesborough {Wheater}, Newcastle {Bassong, Gutierrez, Owen}, Blackburn {RSC, Warnock} , Portsmouth {Johnson, Krancjar}, Stoke {?} , Sunderland {Jones}, Hull {Geovanni} Some of the suggestions are a lot more plausible than others. :):)

wynters

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

NRC is nowhere near their level! He could fill the role well maybe and could still improve yes but they are the best in the world and he isnt near that level.

BH I said 'potentially'! He's only 24. And I'm speaking in terms of defensive play. He might not have the energy of an Essien or Mascherano - OK, but he's as good at shielding the ball as Diarra is now or Makelele was... and at 24, who knows how good he could get with experience.

Bounty Hunter

MementoMori wrote: »

Really can't see Chelsea letting him go. Also think he's been at Chelsea since we was nine or something. Would really be surprised if he moved.

He was linked to Villa around the same time as Richards apparently his contract is up soon and he would only cost a few million in tribunal compensation and he is reluctant to sign a new deal with so many people ahead of him for the CB spots esp after doing so well at wolves and getting an England call.

Would add something to the squad as a different type of player to Milner on the right. Don't think he plays on the left much, though.

True not often employed on the left but he is quality would add to any squad and could be an alternative to Milner at RW or Young at RB at minimum.

Zarate is an interesting one. A fair bit depends on what happens with Barry. Portsmouth are in financial trouble so could well be looking for cash in the summer so Krankjar could be a possibility....

Zarate is from what ive heard doing very well in Italy but he isnt there on a permanent basis and he has lived in the midlands before so you never know.

Krankjar really seems a realistic option not my first choice but it makes perfect sense.

Doyle would seem to be to be a very good fit for MON and would add a different type of option up front. A lot could depend on whether Reading get promoted or not.

I like Doyle and wanted him pre heskey but he wouldent really be that much of a different option. I would think we would need a Gabby alternative and Doyle for me falls slightly more into the Heskey/Carew mold, hense my sugggestion of Zarate or maybe Martins.

What would you folks think of Pennant? It's unlikely that Portsmouth will be able to sign him and he would be available on a free in the summer. Any interest?....

I really dont like Pennant but I do rate him and on the cheap as a squad player and with the fact that both Young and Milner can play either wiing id like to see him signed i suppose he would be what many hoped Routledge could be. Id also hope Bannan could develop and fill a similar role for tthe squad on the left.

So just a LB, RB, CB, RM, FW at the very least by the looks of it.

If MON wants to stay with PL experience I'm pretty sure Man City and Spurs will be having a bit of a clear out given the size of their clubs. There is also the case that both Portsmouth and West Ham are supposed to be in pretty serious financial difficulties and might be willing to cash in on a player or two. Also there is the possibiltiy of maybe signing someone from whoever gets relegated. At the moment that looks like two from Middlesborough {Wheater}, Newcastle {Bassong, Gutierrez, Owen}, Blackburn {RSC, Warnock} , Portsmouth {Johnson, Krancjar}, Stoke {?} , Sunderland {Jones}, Hull {Geovanni} Some of the suggestions are a lot more plausible than others. :):)

Forward: Owen id still really like to see signed as it would be almost a signal of intent from the club but i dont trust his injury record at all, so i wouldent expect it.
RSQ/Jones were both players i wanted pre heskey but now maybe wouldent be the type hed be looking for but at the right price id be happy to see either sign up.

Wheater: doubt hed be happy to be competing for 3rd CB at the club and thats where id rate him if he joined
Warnock: I like Warnock if he signed id view him as what Shorey was meant to be
Johnson: if we get a L/RB i expect a LB who maybe can cover the right if needed and prob Shorey to leave. Luke Young will be RB next year although again wouldent mind Johnson but expect him to go elsewhere should he move.
Bassong/Gutierrez: If Newcastle go down id expect them to get first team football away from VP good players tho
Giovanni: He will stay at Hull imo and if he do go down and he leaves itl be for another team like Hull Villa is too much of a step up imo

Helix

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

RSQ

ive asked this a few times and i dont think ive gotten an answer, but where the hell does the q come from

One Cold Hand

wynters wrote: »

BH I said 'potentially'! He's only 24. And I'm

So is Mascherano. There's only so good he can get after 24.

Bounty Hunter

wynters wrote: »

BH I said 'potentially'! He's only 24. And I'm speaking in terms of defensive play. He might not have the energy of an Essien or Mascherano - OK, but he's as good at shielding the ball as Diarra is now or Makelele was... and at 24, who knows how good he could get with experience.

well for me those two are the best CM and DM in the world atm and i cant see ever saying the same about NRC although I can see him developing into a very good player in probably the Makelele role as you say.

Helix wrote: »

ive asked this a few times and i dont think ive gotten an answer, but where the hell does the q come from

i honestly have no idea why i keep writting RSQ instead of RSC but think ill keep doing it :pac::pac:

Neil3030

Helix wrote: »

ive asked this a few times and i dont think ive gotten an answer, but where the hell does the q come from

My hunch is people are getting their wires crossed with the q in Roque

mirwillbeback

Biggest problem in being a Villa fan, is the fact that you ignore past experiences of being let down, and continue to hope.

Looking at the fixtures remaining for us and Arsenal -

Arsenal Villa

Man City ( H ) Man Utd ( A )
Wigan ( A ) Everton ( H )
Liverpool ( A ) West Ham ( H )
Boro ( H ) Bolton ( A )
Portsmouth ( A ) Hull ( H )
Chelsea ( H ) Fulham ( A )
Man Utd ( A ) Middlesboro ( A )
Stoke ( H ) Newcastle ( H )


.....Arsenal have the top 3 still to play, we only have Man U. We're 3pts behind with a far easier run in. Am I being delusional? :eek:

shoutman

If we continue to play like the way we are at the moment it doesn't matter who we play because we won't be them.

I have a good feeling that the team will be uber pumped up for the Utd game.

I'm just hoping the lads have an epic international break with gabby getting a hatrick and some confidence back.

Helix

who will gabby score a hattrick for? he wasnt picked for england

Frisbee

Helix wrote: »

who will gabby score a hattrick for? he wasnt picked for england

He was called up to the England u21s

JPA

Helix wrote: »

who will gabby score a hattrick for? he wasnt picked for england

U-21

Helix

just saw that now

DubDani

Somebody above mentioned Podolski.

He has already signed for his home club cologne for next season. He will move for 10m Euro on the 1st of July.

http://www.fcbayern.t-home.de/en/news/news/2009/18347.php?fcb_sid=62537e1ee38e856da7af4acc7d3b8bd4

Helix

friedels red card rescinded

Savman

Helix wrote: »

friedels red card rescinded

Glimmer of hope at last.

Bounty Hunter

Friedel no suspension

Vidic, Rooney & Scholes suspended

Mr Alan

berbatov injured.

COME ON VILLA!!!!

Neil3030

Thanks Mr. Alan, I'd been meaning to spruce up my signature!

Mr Alan

oh ****

wynters

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Friedel no suspension

Vidic, Rooney & Scholes suspended... Berbatov injured

Also worth noting that Anderson, Tevez and J Spark all return from far off international games only the day before the United v Villa game. Ferguson says he doesn't know if they'll be ok to play either.

That could mean Giggs and Fletcher in midfield. Beatable.

yahoo_moe

mirwillbeback wrote: »

Arsenal have the top 3 still to play, we only have Man U. We're 3pts behind with a far easier run in. Am I being delusional? :eek:

You're not being delusional because you still have a chance but Villa's season has been based on super away form (up till February obviously) and you have to go to Fulham, Boro and Bolton which could all be tough. Add to that the Utd game and the fact that Everton come to Villa Park and it balances out the fact that Arsenal still have 'better' teams to play a bit, I think.

But definitely still a chance.

villains77

come on the villa we can still get fourth spot its only themselves to blame for not finish 4th spot. but still finishing 5th is not a bad season after what we went through under odreary. lets hope we start april on a wining note. we did go through a bad spell last march and look at april we hammered bolton and the blue noses. if we get a win another win will follow. lets hope we finish the season in 4th spot, anybody travelling over to spain for the pre season peace cup. could do with a sun holiday lol.


UP THE VILLA

invincibleirish

villains77 wrote: »

come on the villa we can still get fourth spot its only themselves to blame for not finish 4th spot. but still finishing 5th is not a bad season after what we went through under odreary. lets hope we start april on a wining note. we did go through a bad spell last march and look at april we hammered bolton and the blue noses. if we get a win another win will follow. lets hope we finish the season in 4th spot, anybody travelling over to spain for the pre season peace cup. could do with a sun holiday lol.


UP THE VILLA

Hear, hear. Its been an awful few months for the Villa, and it could continue at Man Utd but now more then ever we need to get behind the team and management for the final few games, just need a win to get back on track.


You know Spring & Summer are here when the transfer speculation begins, here's this Defour chap Villa have beeen linked with before, and it has qoutes:

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5103001,00.html

Who's going to Everton game? i 've been stung by leaving it too late bookinf flights the last while, gotta book them now.

Doodee

I think that after the last couple of Games MON has hopefully realized that a change is required for our form to change.

I'll leave off on any transfer speculation till the Window opens, I still think Suazo > Heskey.

Anywho, PHB have a potential first team for the game? Hopefully we won't get Hammered, a draw would be very good going into the last few games.

death1234567

Doodee wrote: »

I still think Suazo > Heskey.

I still think My left testicle > Heskey.

shoutman

Gaby has pulled out of the U21 match due to a 'hamstring strain'

Savman

It would be both idealistic and naive to disregard Man U at Old Trafford, no matter how many injuries they will be toughest opposition we have faced all season and at the worst possible time for us in terms of form and confidence.

Would love to head to that Peace Cup....hola :pac:

JPA

Peace cup sounds amazing and as I said previously, just the kinda thing we need to keep raising our profile.

x in the city

heskey will never be at villa or at any club in the top flight next season.

cant believe mon signed him tbh

I think Villa have a chance at man u actually, wouldn't be surprised in a draw or a villa win. think they are due a result.

but then again man u might go goal crazy who knows..

Bounty Hunter

x in the city wrote: »

heskey will never be at villa or at any club in the top flight next season.

Complete and utter bollocks. Heskey is guaranteed to be at a Prem club next season, most likely Villa and he may even still be in the England squad.... not that i want him starting Villa's next game

x in the city

Complete and utter bollocks. Heskey is guaranteed to be at a Prem club next season, most likely Villa and he may even still be in the England squad.... not that i want him starting Villa's next game

LOL, maybe at a club with no ambitions.

if he was any good you 'would' want him starting villas next game, no ?

He is in the England squad but why is anyone's guess, beggars belief. He contributes nothing but a few hold ups and lays the ball off to others, compared to say Gerrard who covers pretty much every blade of grass ( and scores goals) Heskey covers about 1/100th of the area (and scores fook all)

end result = FAIL

Bounty Hunter

x in the city wrote: »

LOL, maybe at a club with no ambitions.

if he was any good you 'would' want him starting villas next game, no ?

He is in the England squad but why is anyone's guess, beggars belief. He contributes nothing but a few hold ups and lays the ball off to others, compared to say Gerrard who covers pretty much every blade of grass ( and scores goals) Heskey covers about 1/100th of the area (and scores fook all)

end result = FAIL

obviously you dont rate Heskey but personally id take Fabio Capello or MON's view on how good a player is over yours. He is a good player, me not wanting him to start ahead of Carew or Gabby doesent mean he isnt Prem quality.... hmm maybe ill go over to the everton thread now and point out how onre of their squad players is shiit and how he shouldent be in the Premiership, no on second thoughts i wouldent wanna act the ass and come off as unintentionally just stirring.

end result = you fail

Mr Alan

i really wanted to see Heskey at Liverpool in Jan, would still take him in the summer if we were operating on a tight budget. He is a very very very good player.

kingshankly

the thing with heskey is confidence when he has it hes unstopable when he hasnt any he is very poor.

x in the city

Good luck to Villa with Heskey banging in the goals...:rolleyes:

shoutman

x in the city wrote: »

Good luck to Villa with Heskey banging in the goals...:rolleyes:

Why thank you, good luck to Everton with always and forever being the second best team in Liverpool.

Mr Alan

shoutman wrote: »

Why thank you, good luck to Everton with always and forever being the second best team in Liverpool.

finally, something me & the Villa fans agree on

Tusky

Mr Alan wrote: »

i really wanted to see Heskey at Liverpool in Jan, would still take him in the summer if we were operating on a tight budget. He is a very very very good player.

Riiight... hes a very very very good striker than scores very very very few goals.

Career Club Totals : 585 games 137 goals (a goal every 4.2 games)

International Totals : 51 Games 5 Goals (a goal every 10.2 games)

Over last three years:

07-08 30 Games 4 Goals
06-07 36 Games 8 Goals
05-06 40 Games 5 Goals

TOTAL: 106 Games 17 Goals (a goal every 6.2 games)

invincibleirish

I've erred over the years on Heskey, loads of times he is awful but at times he is great.

Some of those times were distant memories of him at Leicester under MON.

In January we thought he was a bargain, now bar the winner on his debut on Jan 28 he has done very little. Surely he'll be benched at some point?

invincibleirish

shoutman wrote: »

Why thank you, good luck to Everton with always and forever being the second best team in Liverpool.

Poor old Tranmere, they of the infamous cup runs long throws and all that, Came close to second for a while there in the 1990s.

Ah the days of the not so chubby Bosnich and his shot stopping powers