FF13 no longer a ps3 exclusive

noodler

The money Square would make from ff13 on the 360 (I presume) would be bigger than any payment sony could have offered. Sony would have been silly to say something like, we will pay you whatever you lose by not releasing on 360.

L31mr0d

just for proofs sake, here are the shareholders in Square Enix, Sony is the 3rd largest, so which ever console FF13 is bought for Sony wins

http://www.square-enix.com/jp/ir/e/stock/stockholder/

noodler

I heard it before alright, just never checked for myself.

mcgovern

steviec wrote: »

No it isn't, it's published by Microsoft. Just like Resistance or Uncharted, they're also from independant developers but they're published by Sony.

Insomniac Games and Naughty Dog, while independent both have very close ties to Sony (aren't all of their games published by Sony? If not, the vast majority are). Epic don't have the same ties to Microsoft, and Gears will only be published by Microsoft because its an exclusive.

steviec wrote: »

The last major real third party exclusive on 360 was Bioshock, and that was simply because the PS3 wasn't around yet when they began development. As can be seen by the fact they're now doing a PS3 port, and Bioshock 2 will be multiplatform. The same goes for Bizarre Creations next racing game (Microsoft own the Project Gotham name but the devs have moved on), the likes of Dead Rising and Lost Planet will certainly be multiplatform when they get sequels.

Depends on your definition of major I suppose, but Ninja Gaiden 2 was published by Temco, and is a 360 exclusive. Regarding Bioshock, you are making some very big assumptions there, first off, the game is built using the Unreal 3 engine, which is obviously capable of supporting the PS3. There is also the fact that the game was already well into development 6 months after the 360 was released, so chances are that development started before the 360 existed either. Developers get the dev kits long before the console is released (otherwise how would we have launch titles?).
Bizarre, like Bungie, have hinted that would like to create some more 360 exclusive games at some stage.

steviec wrote: »

For any big budget game, it's simply not worth a developers while to only release on one console, so the only time you'll see an exclusive is when the platform holder directly pays for it, and I'd rather see MS and Sony spend their money on developing first party games rather than spending it on stopping ports of games being released.

On this part I do agree with you, you won't see many non-paid for exclusives, the exceptions being from studios on both sides with strong ties, and there are certainly better things for them to be spending their money on.


N.B. This isn't supposed to be a fan boy type post, I used examples for the 360 because I know more about it than the PS3.

thelordofcheese

Tauren wrote: »

Awesome....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

That is, without a doubt, the greatest thing ever.
See noodler, far more entertaining by a country mile.

noodler

What is? This thread or F3?

I love FF games man, very few things are more entertaining for me.

thelordofcheese

noodler wrote: »

What is? This thread or F3?

I love FF games man, very few things are more entertaining for me.

No accouting for taste....

noodler

I will never understand people who coem into a thread about a game they do not like to express their dislike of said game.

You wouldn't find me in a Fifa thread.

I just wathced your youtube link, if that guy is NOT taking the piss then I worry for Americans.

robby^5

I find it funny how PS3 fanboys complain about how many discs the 360 will need for large games even when with huge games like Metal Gear 4 they have to spend 2 - 3 minutes installing each new act... it takes less time to pop in a new dvd folks

noodler

Haha, find it funny all you want, I would much rather have it all on one disc.

rizzla

robby^5 wrote: »

I find it funny how PS3 fanboys complain about how many discs the 360 will need for large games even when with games like MGS4 they have to spend 2 - 3 minutes installing each new act... it takes less time to pop in a dvd folks

True, I actually enjoy changing discs. There's an unusal sense of accomplishment.

"Where are ya?"

"Just starting disc 3 now."

Nailz

noodler wrote: »

If it is true Sony have shares in Squenix, then I think there should be a financial consolation for Sony. I'm still not pushed buying a 360, someone told me lately the RROD has a 50% rate.

No, it's 1/3. But that's still alot though!!

robby^5

rizzla wrote: »

True, I actually enjoy changing discs. There's an unusal sense of accomplishment.

"Where are ya?"

"Just starting disc 3 now."

massive ego stroke isn't it?

noodler wrote: »

Haha, find it funny all you want, I would much rather have it all on one disc.

Just to get inside the mind of a fanboy, why would you prefer it all on one disc knowing that you'll still have to sit through periods of installation? What's the huge benefit I'm not seeing here?

The installs in MGS4 got very annoying, to the point where I'd have preferred just being able to stick in a new disc and get on with things.

noodler

robby^5 wrote: »

massive ego stroke isn't it?



Just to get inside the mind of a fanboy, why would you prefer it all on one disc knowing that you'll still have to sit through periods of installation? What's the huge benefit I'm not seeing here?

The installs in MGS4 got very annoying, to the point where I'd have preferred just being able to stick in a new disc and get on with things.

Wow. Amazing. Surely the "fanboy" (what a bent and massively overused term BTW) would be the 360 owner who believes he would rather have it on multiple discs as it is fun to switch discs?

I replied with, I would rather have it on one disc. So wow.

You know, Sony "fanboys" are the ones everyone keeps bringing up but there are just as many, if not more, 360 fanboys around.

Otacon

OK I actually needed to check what this thread was titled before I replied.

Will everyone please STFU about fanboi-ism! Every console of every generation has had them! Jebus!

FFXIII will now be on both systems. So now more people can enjoy whats bound to be a game thats two generations ahead of FFVII yet still not better than it. Why the fnck are ye arguing about this game!? Really!

humanji

I think you're takign things a little to personally.

As someone who grew up during the advent of games spanning multiple disks, I kind of have a soft spot for having to change disks. It's not a fanboy thing. It's just something that takes me back to a better day.

That said, I've no problem with games being on one disk. I really (really, really, really) hated MGS4's multiple installs, though. I'd much prefer a 30 minute install at the start that to have to stop just when you're about to get into things. I hope that for larger games that they won't go down that route. It really takes away form games.

robby^5

noodler wrote: »

Wow. Amazing. Surely the "fanboy" (what a bent and massively overused term BTW) would be the 360 owner who believes he would rather have it on multiple discs as it is fun to switch discs?

I wouldn't consider myself a fanboy, I own both a PS3 and 360, you thinking I was solely a 360 owner because I prefer multiple discs made me chuckle btw, not all of us are simply on one side of some massive divide in gaming

If FFXIII does happen to come out on multiple discs for 360 I don't see it as a downside, PS3 users have to sit through installs and 360 users have to switch disc after disc no one side is getting a better deal.

noodler wrote: »

I replied with, I would rather have it on one disc. So wow.

You left out the part where you said "haha" directly at my comment.

The term fanboy seems to be quite relevant in this discussion, that smug sense of superiority is overwhelming

noodler

What was the reason for it in MGS4?

noodler

"I find it funny" has the same effect.

OR "makes me chuckle".

Its just a little smugger is all.

Retr0gamer

Is getting off your arse to change discs 3 times during a 60+ hour game really a deal breaker to some people?

I too like the sense of accomplishment from changing discs. I missed it from FFX

noodler

No but I would rather it on one disc. Is it a certainty that FF13 will have interupting installations in the same way that MGS4 did or are people just assuming?

humanji

I'd say nobody will know until it's released. Granted, it won't bother me since I'm not going to get the game, but for future games that I may want to play, I just hope MGS4 hasn't set a precendent.

super_furry

Nailz wrote: »

No, it's 1/3. But that's still alot though!!

It's actually only 9%.

noodler

I haven't heard an estimate that low. Where'd you get it?

Seifer

Lol. The guy that "someone told me lately", wants back up and proof.

noodler wrote:

I'm still not pushed buying a 360, someone told me lately the RROD has a 50% rate.

robby^5

It's around 10% for newer models, 17% for older models according to most sources. Of course we'll never have an exact number because only Microsoft can know that and I doubt very much they'd want to reveal the percentage regardless of how low or high it is.

50% failure rate is nonsense.

noodler

Yeah..asking for a source...someone shoot that guy. Thats how you get to the bottom of things...

Wasn't suggesting for a moment you were lieing or anything, just wondering as obviously (and as I myself stated) all I had was hearsay.

Cool, well it had to be highish, otherwise they wouldn't feel obligated to fork out a free 3-year warrenty