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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Yet it has two of the best Action/RPG's in the last few years, Twilight Princess and Okami (and i know Okami is a port). While you (and i) might not like a lot of them, you still cant call it a toy. It does have some excellent games. It plays games, so its a console.

    And i dont think that the fact that Nintendo went for a different strategy then the others can be used against them. They'll crush you with their wallet if you do.

    And lets not take part in any pc/console discussion here. Flame wars, while entertaining, get old pretty quick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Well Sony have money from other sources too. I just see the 360 and PS3 winning out in the long term. A Zelda game and a port? Hardly signs of ingenuity on the games front though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭i_am_dogboy


    What happened to the e3 discussion...


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I lost it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    What happened to the e3 discussion...

    We've found out it's more fun to pretend to believe things that blatantly aren't true and post about them than to stay on topic.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Hey if you like the Wii thats your business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    I miss the old E3, I want the big booths back, I want the booth babes back! It's pretty much just another week to me now, just with a little extra game news whereas a few years ago I'd be online all day checking out gamespots live coverage which was always awesome because there used to be so much going on at E3 :(

    I know they had their reasons to change it, but It just feels like a national holiday for gamers was killed :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Is it ever possible for members of the public to go? Maybe Ill start up a 2bit playstation magazine to get access next year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    robby^5 wrote: »
    I miss the old E3, I want the big booths back, I want the booth babes back! It's pretty much just another week to me now, just with a little extra game news whereas a few years ago I'd be online all day checking out gamespots live coverage which was always awesome because there used to be so much going on at E3 :(

    I know they had their reasons to change it, but It just feels like a national holiday for gamers was killed :D

    Meh, i'm not that pushed. I kinda prefer things being more spread out. There was so much stuff announced at E3 that it was overwhelming.

    Now I can actually have time to digest what's being announced and i think it works out better for devs and publishers seeing as they don't have to spend a fortune only to get crushed by bigger companies media juggernauts.

    As for the booth babes, it's the internet my friend. There are half naked chicks everywhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Jack Sheehan


    Sooooooooo...

    stuff that came out of e3 then?

    Personally I'm holding out of I Am Alive, nice to see a survival action game featuring no zombies/not zombies(Im looking at you resi 4)/mystical forces/demons/devils etc.

    But obviously the award fo best trailer has to go to Duke Nukem:Trilogy
    http://kotaku.com/5026127/duke-nukem-trilogy-trailer-takes-the-cake


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    LA Noir seems interesting enough, too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Was LA Noir not cancelled??? Thought i heard Sony came into problems with Rockstar during development and they decided to scrap the project. I might have dreamt this though :pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    noodler wrote: »
    Hardly signs of ingenuity on the games front though.
    Hang on, your saying that Nintendo are the ones who lack ingenuity? :confused:

    I too miss the old E3. Booth babes, mixed with sweaty crazy gaming nerds. Entertainment at its highest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Well they are even more heavily reliant on sequels than Sony.

    Mario dance Kart party 11 and what have you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    noddler wrote:
    Well they are even more heavily reliant on sequels than Sony.
    What are you even talking about? Everyone else is refering to the Nintendo Wii. The console that has seen some of the most innovative games ever due to it's incredibly innovative control system. Obviously they have sequels for games but even those take a lot of the series involved in bold new directions.
    Your Sony blinkers are ridiculous and not just evident on this thread. Expand your gaming palette. Your ps3 won't mind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    Was LA Noir not cancelled??? Thought i heard Sony came into problems with Rockstar during development and they decided to scrap the project. I might have dreamt this though :pac:

    Apparently not, at least according to gamespot. It was mentioned in the Take Two event speech:
    GameSpot wrote:
    [10:49] Take-Two Chairman Strauss Zelnick takes the stage right on time, immediately touting the fact that Grand Theft Auto IV was the "biggest entertainment launch in history."
    [10:50] "We're investing in the future...with our creative team of 1,400 developers in 17 studios worldwide."
    [10:52] "In an effort to produce the best in interactive entertainment, we encourage our developers to imagine," says Zelnick, who quickly hands over the podium to "the brains of the operation," Take-Two CEO and president Ben Feder.
    [10:54] Feder cues a series of montages, beginning with 2K Sports. NBA 2K9, NHL 2K9, Top Spin 3, Don King's Prizefighter, Power Pros, and MLB 2K9 reel out. Then come two demos for the Xbox 360 NBA 2K9 and the Wii NHL 2K9, which aims "to bring the fun back to hockey."
    [10:55] Now comes a demo of NHL 2K9, which is billed as a "complete reset" of the franchise. The Visual Concepts producer on hand says hockey games have become "too complicated."
    [10:56] The game will have pick-up-and-play controls, "an all-new fighting engine," and will even let you drive the Zamboni between periods.
    [10:57] It still is a hardcore hockey sim, he stresses, with a high level of detail. Apparently, if the crowd is very displeased with a team's performance, they will start throwing beer cups and other debris onto the ice.
    [10:58] There's even an interactive Stanley Cup celebration mode which lets you party until dawn with your team.
    [10:58] The hockey player demoing the game is showing how you push forward with the controllers to slam opponents against the boards.
    [10:58] Now it's NBA 2K9 for the 360.
    [10:59] NBA is the game "the pros are playing" and is the best-selling basketball game on the current generation of consoles.
    [11:00] Once again, its a virtual rematch of the Lakers and the Celtics.
    [11:01] The presenter says, "If you think you've seen online features, you ain't seen nothing yet." Do they have something to match NBA Live 09's Dynamic DNA?
    [11:02] The Celtics start scoring, and some audience members groan. "I know we're in Los Angeles, but Kevin Garnett is our cover guy," jokes the VC producer.
    [11:03] That's it for sports! Feder comes back to talk about the new casual game label 2K Play.
    [11:04] Sarah Anderson, 2K's head of marketing, takes the stage.
    [11:05] She talks about "building on our strategic partnership with Nickelodeon," and airs a TV ad for Carnival Games for Wii and DS.
    [11:06] The games' developer is Cat Daddy, which is also working on a sequel, Carnival Games Mini-Golf for the Wii. Another TV ad talks about getting a "hole in fun!" Audible groans ensue.
    [11:07] Anderson repeats the pun, getting some chuckles.
    [11:08] Now she announces a new deal to bring Nickelodeon's Dora the Explorer to the Wii and DS with Dora Saves the Snow Princess this fall.
    [11:09] Feder pops back on stage and quickly talks about 2K Games. Apparently the initial run of Civilization Revolution has already sold out at US retailers, with 2K rushing to manufacture more.
    [11:09] Cue a trailer for BioShock, which is coming to the PlayStation 3 this fall.
    [11:10] Nice--a Borderlands trailer.
    BorderlandsE32008Screenshot04-GuardTowerSniper787_embed.jpg
    Gearbox's Borderlands is due out early next year.

    [11:10] The postapocalyptic game shows a lot of indoor and outdoor action, with highly detailed graphics and action.
    [11:11] Mafia II is also shown off, with extremely realistic depictions of 1950s-era mobsters.
    [11:11] Anderson's back, talking about Champions Online, 2K's first MMORPG. It's due next spring.
    [11:13] Cue a trailer for Champions. The graphics are semi-cel-shaded, making it look and feel very much like an interactive comic book.
    [11:13] 2K Marin's Melissa Maya Miller takes the stage to show off BioShock for the PS3.
    [11:15] Miller talks about the level of effort it took to make BioShock, which drew on resources from all of 2K Games. She says the same effort is being taken with BioShock PS3, which has four studios working on it: 2K Marin, 2K Boston, 2K Australia, and Digital Extremes.
    [11:17] New announcement: PS3 BioShock will have exclusive DLC, including new "challenge rooms" in Rapture.
    [11:18] Now, Feder is back to talk about Borderlands, the postapocalyptic road-actioner and shooter. Randy Pitchford takes the stage and gives BioShock expressive praise.
    BorderlandsE32008Screenshot06-Explosion808_embed.jpg
    Explosives are just one way to take care of baddies in Borderlands.

    [11:22] Now onto Borderlands, which takes place on the planet Pandora. The demo begins, with a driver class and a soldier class jumping into a vehicle and driving around the landscape. In a scrub desert area called the "barrens," two vehicles looking like Halo warthogs engage in a road battle before the two players--engaged in co-op mode--jump out and go into a dungeon-like iridium mine. The perspective switches from first to third person. The game will have an experience system similar to Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, where the more you use a particular weapon, the easier it is to use.
    BorderlandsE32008Screenshot10-SniperScope448_embed.jpg
    Players' skills with weapons such as the sniper rifle will improve with use, leading to bloodier and more spectacular deaths.

    [11:24] After fighting off some hungry alien wildlife, the two players go deep into the mine, finding the bones of bandits eaten by monsters--and then excreted. They find guns in a locker, and emphasizes that no two guns in Borderlands are the same. They have an entire program which will randomly generate weapons with a variety of power-ups and extra features.
    [11:26] A bloody battle with an underground bandit camp ensues, with the players' opponents meeting bloody ends. The visual style and gameplay looks like a cross of Halo 3 and Fallout 3, though the yellow-tinted guns look straight out of Haze.
    [11:28] The guns are color-coded according to their abilities. Like Mass Effect, there will be wide array of ammo types, including guns that shoot acid. More bandits meet their ends, being either fried with electrical rounds or blown to pieces with shotguns. The game is looking just slightly less bloody that Gears of War.
    BorderlandsE32008Screenshot08-BanditCamp264_embed.jpg
    In addition to vehicular combat on the planet Pandora's surface, players can go underground to uncover hidden bases.

    [11:29] After an ambush cutscene, the demo ends. Huge applause. This game is gonna be massive.
    [11:31] Now, it's on to Rockstar Games, and Feder name-checks Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, but only says "stay tuned for more information." Cue a montage of GTAIV, Bully, and L.A. Noire, which is apparently still in development.
    [11:33] Now it's on to a Midnight Club: Los Angeles trailer. Shots of detailed street racing are accompanied by pumping techno from French DJ duo Justice.
    [11:33] Zelnick's back and that's it, apparently.
    [11:34] "We're dedicated to creating value for shareholders," says Zelnick. The words "Electronic Arts" were never mentioned.
    [11:35] A final sizzle trailer flashes a title card for what looked like the new Red Dead Revolver and Sid Meier's Pirates! games. However, 2K Games has since clarified the footage was for prior games "in the 2K Games portfolio." A rep would neither confirm nor deny new games in both series are in the works.
    noodler wrote: »
    Well they are even more heavily reliant on sequels than Sony.

    Mario dance Kart party 11 and what have you.

    What are you talking about? That sounds like the best game ever! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    God you remind me of the guy from that FF13 youtube thing.
    Getting all worked up over it. I don't own a ps3, it isn't really profound bias to argue Nintendo have oo many sequels (or re-releasing RE4 on a subsequent Nintendo System)

    Get over yourself, would you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    I'm going to agree with noodler here. (not about getting over oneself or anything!)

    Though the Wii has introduced a very innovative control system, the games for are either sequels of games that really need a change in formula, or 'mini-game' games. An innovative control system is not enough for a console as you will lose hardcore and middle-of-the-road gamers with so many casual, gimicky games.

    I have a Wii myself and haven't played or bought a game for it in almost six months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    noodler wrote:
    God you remind me of the guy from that FF13 youtube thing.
    Lol, the ironing is delicious.
    You don't even have a ps3. Do you work for Sony?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    That Dawn of War 2 trailer was just...*droooool*

    :eek:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,415 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    noodler wrote: »
    Also, there are many games I think the Wii just could not do well with a motion sensor controller and the like. I wouldn't want to play an Rpg, a rpo evo, or a MGS (for example) on it.

    Well if you want to play RPGs the PS3 is the wrng console to get at the moment. There are no RPGs on hte PS3 at the moment that are exclusive and very few coming that are. The Xbox 360 has far more than the PS3 and even the wii has more with plenty of exclusives in the pipeline.

    As for Pro Evo, isn't by far the best version of the new pro evo available for the wii?


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Seifer wrote: »
    Lol, the ironing is delicious.
    You don't even have a ps3. Do you work for Sony?

    Irony I assume?

    Like I said I commend Nintendo for the way they have captured a whole new market with the Wii, but the less casual may find some of their games slightly repetitive.

    The ps2 version of pro evo. Wasn't intrinsically 'broken' like the next gen efforts. The Wii one looks fine and all but I find it very hard to be precise enough with the controller.

    Now, in fairness, I didn't say that just because Wii wasn't the best for RPGs that PS3 was.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭i_am_dogboy


    Pyr0 wrote: »
    That Dawn of War 2 trailer was just...*droooool*

    :eek:

    YES, IT ****ING WAS(though the original DoW's cinematic had more impact).
    noodler wrote: »
    Like I said I commend Nintendo for the way they have captured a whole new market with the Wii, but the less casual may find some of their games slightly repetitive.

    I'm not a casual gamer, and I've found myself quite engrossed in a number of wii titles that I wouldn't call repetitive. This discussion has gotten pretty stupid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Jack Sheehan


    I'll watch the DoW trailer now. I always enjoyed the opening cinematic to the first on but the actual game was a bit rude. Screaming 'SQUAD BROKEN!' at you as if it was your fault all the time.

    EDIT: Wowzers. That looks nice.

    I don't own a Wii but the version of Resi 4 on it was impressive. It's still upsetting to have your head chainsawed off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    I watched the DoW trailer there myself, looks nice, very nice infact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭Pyr0


    Roasted in the face with a Flamethrower by a dreadnaught point blank is not a good way to go at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Pyr0 wrote: »
    Roasted in the face with a Flamethrower by a dreadnaught point blank is not a good way to go at all.

    It's better than you deserve if you're a filthy eldar.

    also
    noodler wrote:
    ...Mario dance Kart party 11....

    best game idea ever.
    ever


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Question, When do the E3 judging panel usually announce the GOTS and other awards?

    Alot of journalists on other websites are hinting towards Dead Space, they are all saying that it is amazing.

    Other notable mentions where Fallout 3, Spore, Resistance 2, LBP, Gears2 (In particular the Horde MP mode),Guitar Hero World Tour, Left 4 Dead and that PSN game Fat Princess.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,400 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Fallout 3 is sposed to be mammoth in size. Read a preview and the mag writers said the developers loaded up his save file where he was 70 hours in.

    The cheapskate in me loves long games.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Nailz


    noodler wrote: »
    Fallout 3 is sposed to be mammoth in size. Read a preview and the mag writers said the developers loaded up his save file where he was 70 hours in.

    The cheapskate in me loves long games.
    Fùcking most games of that format are about well... a hell of alot less than that!!


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