Garda Reserve Experiences

Hacknabush

westcoastboy wrote: »

Have recieved my two payments of €1,000 each time, my contribution to the Garda Reserve helped make me stand out -i reakon when i went for a promotion in my job recently,
So while it may be for FREE, i have learned a lot out it, and have gotten no negativity from the Full-timers..

Well done Westcoast boy. I (like so many of my class) are still waiting on attestation but they have realy restricted us on acheiving our final 70hrs on our first year because they have moved the goal posts so often. There must be at least 200 waiting fo attestation in May Love the job and have met a few guys who are not cut out for the full time positions even after all their training in T'more. Life experience is what I got and can spot them a mile away

baton charge

nice guy always wrote: »

Good man nothing like a guy with a head on his shoulder. We have got some lamps as reserves but we also have a whole lot who are great!!!

We are there to assist so dont go out thinking you are any better than the guard you have been assigned to because your not.Remember they are the professionals and do this every day for a living.
But that said, we can sometimes give our incites into situations because of our different life experiences.One thing I have heard quoted from some senior Gardai is the lack of experience in some stations due to the number of years service. That is where I have been told some of us older guys can help out.It isnt all about been Superman or woman but using the common sense approach when necessary. As for lamps the Full timers are not immune from that particular disease either. They are in every walk of life it's how you deal with them that counts.;)

baton charge

Hope this answers your question.
The duties of a Reserve Garda are as follows:

Station duty, other than the care and custody of prisoners;
Assistant to the Station Orderly;
Communications room duty, to include monitoring CCTV
Foot patrol, accompanied by a member of the permanent Garda Service.
Static security duty;
Road traffic checkpoint duties, accompanied by a full-time member;
Duty at the outer cordon of major events such as festivals and major
sporting events;
Assisting in the event of accidents, fires and major emergencies;
Giving evidence in court;
Community/Neighbourhood Policing.

Hooch

baton charge wrote: »

Hope this answers your question.
The duties of a Reserve Garda are as follows:

Station duty, other than the care and custody of prisoners;
Assistant to the Station Orderly;
Communications room duty, to include monitoring CCTV
Foot patrol, accompanied by a member of the permanent Garda Service.
Static security duty;
Road traffic checkpoint duties, accompanied by a full-time member;
Duty at the outer cordon of major events such as festivals and major
sporting events;
Assisting in the event of accidents, fires and major emergencies;
Giving evidence in court;
Community/Neighbourhood Policing.

Were now callled members of the permanent Garda Service:eek::eek:!!! Musted have missed that HQ directive:D:D

kerry4sam

nice guy always wrote: »

Were now callled members of the permanent Garda Service:eek::eek:!!! Musted have missed that HQ directive:D:D

jeez you were quick off the mark niceguy :pac:

Hooch

kerry4sam wrote: »

jeez you were quick off the mark niceguy :pac:

Yes kerry....im quite good alright!!:)

Hooch

spudz21 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone would be able to answer this??
If one of your parents is garda serg in your local district, would that affect where you would get assigned to as a reserve?
I cant imagine you would end up in same station as them.....:eek::eek:

No you cant serve in a station that has a family member in it or your own home district.

spudz21

nice guy always wrote: »

No you cant serve in a station that has a family member in it or your own home district.

Oh good:PI was expecting there was some rule like that and I assume its the same for the full timers?

Hooch

spudz21 wrote: »

Oh good:PI was expecting there was some rule like that and I assume its the same for the full timers?

Ya same for us, except reserve are normally sent close to their home. We can be sent anywhere. Ie as a reserve you wont get dublin if from cork

kerry4sam

Are reserves automatically sent to the DistrictHQ or can a reserve choose the station within their county? Obviously not their home station.

spudz21

nice guy always wrote: »

Ya same for us, except reserve are normally sent close to their home. We can be sent anywhere. Ie as a reserve you wont get dublin if from cork

Ah grand, thanks for that:)might work for the better, think I actually would prefer (as a reserve) to be somewhere outside my district anyway, know way too many people round my area, all the slagging I would get hehe!
Thats all if I even apply, have to go suss out the auld lads opinions on the reserves first:D

Hooch

kerry4sam wrote: »

Are reserves automatically sent to the DistrictHQ or can a reserve choose the station within their county? Obviously not their home station.

A lot of the time the district hq is your local station (ie in kerry they would be Listowel, Tralee, Killarney and Cahersiveen.)

Normally reserves are placed in neighbouring districts. Like we'll say if from Listowel you might get Kilarney.
Dont know about choosing stations, to be honest im not 100% with knowledge of the reserves, except with interacting with the ones attached to the station.

Hooch

KERRY!!!! You were my 400th post!!!!:D

kerry4sam

nice guy always wrote: »

KERRY!!!! You were my 400th post!!!!:D

and don't you feel so proud

kerry4sam

nice guy always wrote: »

A lot of the time the district hq is your local station (ie in kerry they would be Listowel, Tralee, Killarney and Cahersiveen.)

Normally reserves are placed in neighbouring districts. Like we'll say if from Listowel you might get Kilarney.
Dont know about choosing stations, to be honest im not 100% with knowledge of the reserves, except with interacting with the ones attached to the station.

My main worry was that they'll send me down to Cahersiveen :eek: I've nothing against the town or anything just way out of the way for me!

but could you get Killarney though if from Listowel ... it would take over an hour to get there and I thought you'd be stationed within 30mins from home-base?

Hooch

kerry4sam wrote: »

My main worry was that they'll send me down to Cahersiveen :eek: I've nothing against the town or anything just way out of the way for me!

but could you get Killarney though if from Listowel ... it would take over an hour to get there and I thought you'd be stationed within 30mins from home-base?

Ya you could get it! Even Tralee!!!!!

DK47

that post makes no scene

kerry4sam

dkhill47 wrote: »

don't quote me on this but, tralee is the main station in Kerry, thats where the Chief Superintendent is. from what i read in the kerryman before christmas, reserves in kerry are based out off tralee, having said that, there isnt that many so thaty could be the reason. tralee would suite me, killarney is about 60 -70 minuite drive where tralee is 40 min drive. not pushed either way.

dkhill47 wrote: »

that post makes no scene

no no it made sense to me anyways dkhill

DK47

kerry4sam wrote: »

no no it made sense to me anyways dkhill

a your too kind, even if i did say scene not sense =:cool:

DK47

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gailgo

nice guy always wrote: »

No you cant serve in a station that has a family member in it or your own home district.

there is no hope for me been stationed in my home town so ,ah that suits me i know every tom dick and harry there anyway i suppore it will be limerick o great craic

Spartan09

Sorry just joined so lots of questions, was speaking with a full time member who's a friend last weekend and he didnt think that members of the reserve were equipped with Batons, he doesnt work with any reserves so I thought someone on here might know?

baton charge

Spartan09 wrote: »

Sorry just joined so lots of questions, was speaking with a full time member who's a friend last weekend and he didnt think that members of the reserve were equipped with Batons, he doesnt work with any reserves so I thought someone on here might know?

yes equiped and trained in Baton and handcuff techniques

Echo1

Out of curiosity how many hours of ASP/Handcuff/Self-Defence Training do Reserves get?I no wat full timers get so just curious!:)

freddiew

Echo1 wrote: »

Out of curiosity how many hours of ASP/Handcuff/Self-Defence Training do Reserves get?I no wat full timers get so just curious!:)

Approx. 8 hours in total and you are tested afterwards.

freddiew

baton charge wrote: »

yes equiped and trained in Baton and handcuff techniques

Trainee Reserves are NOT equipped with Batons or Cuffs in Templemore any longer. The first few intakes were as I was.

Echo1

8 hours for ASP/Cuff training?not too much less so!!thats no harm!!

freddiew

Echo1 wrote: »

8 hours for ASP/Cuff training?not too much less so!!thats no harm!!

Your question included Self Defense as does my answer!!

Echo1

Badly phrased on my behalf!

baton charge

freddiew wrote: »

Trainee Reserves are NOT equipped with Batons or Cuffs in Templemore any longer. The first few intakes were as I was.

Do you know the reason for this seems very strange to me?I know of one Reserve at my station who had not been issued them but the liason Officer is looking into it.I believe new cuffs are to be issued but like the Asp if you have the old wooden Baton and cuffs then one needs to be retrained.Thought all new Reserves were been trained in the ASP.

StreetAngel

Hey!..just wondering if anyone knows the answer to this...if you are successful in joining the reserves, do you have any say in where you'll be stationed? Just wondering as a few of my family members are full time members locally, and I wouldn't particularly like to be stationed with them..(turning up with the family on the first day might not be a good look:D)..cheers!:cool:

paulbolg

StreetAngel wrote: »

Hey!..just wondering if anyone knows the answer to this...if you are successful in joining the reserves, do you have any say in where you'll be stationed? Just wondering as a few of my family members are full time members locally, and I wouldn't particularly like to be stationed with them..(turning up with the family on the first day might not be a good look:D)..cheers!:cool:

if you join the GR you wont be stationed anywhere there is family members.

StreetAngel

paulbolg wrote: »

if you join the GR you wont be stationed anywhere there is family members.

thanks a mill paulbolg!! Just thought i'd check that out before i go applying!!:D

Hacknabush

baton charge wrote: »

Do you know the reason for this seems very strange to me?I know of one Reserve at my station who had not been issued them but the liason Officer is looking into it.I believe new cuffs are to be issued but like the Asp if you have the old wooden Baton and cuffs then one needs to be retrained.Thought all new Reserves were been trained in the ASP.

I have been in a couple of situations where I was asked by a member 'do you have an ASP' and 'We need an extra pair of cuffs' to which I had to answer both times 'No' What is the point in giving us training if we do not get an issue of the equipment, I suppose the same will be done with the Tetra system when it gets rolled our way.:eek:

gerry05

kerry4sam wrote: »

Did you get any feedback from the other lads there on how they felt they done in their interview? It could be the impression they all got after their interview.

Yeah their was a nice mix at mine also which is good.

Yeah maybe, No did nt really get a chance to chat to anybody my interview was at 9.15 this morning and I was the only one there,when I was leaving there was one girl waiting to go in.
I then went back for the report writing at 1.00 thats when i came across the rest of them,think everybody was too nervous to talk:o

kerry4sam

Hacknabush wrote: »

I have been in a couple of situations where I was asked by a member 'do you have an ASP' and 'We need an extra pair of cuffs' to which I had to answer both times 'No' What is the point in giving us training if we do not get an issue of the equipment, I suppose the same will be done with the Tetra system when it gets rolled our way.:eek:

If a Reserve were to purchase their own are they permitted to use them? or is there an insurance issue?

Hacknabush

kerry4sam wrote: »

If a Reserve were to purchase their own are they permitted to use them? or is there an insurance issue?

Jeez perish the thought...supplying your own equipment...Imagine how a solicitor would rip you apart for not having the offical issue. Buying your own would be easy but as you said the insurance implications and also you would be leaving yourself open to a whole raft of possibilities from a legal side.:eek:

TheNog

kerry4sam wrote: »

If a Reserve were to purchase their own are they permitted to use them? or is there an insurance issue?

If a fulltime member was to use an item that was not officially given to them with training, we could face definite disciplinary proceedings and a possible civil suit. The AGS would basically wash its hands of that member.

Same could happen a Reserve too so its better to be safe than sorry.

Hacknabush

TheNog wrote: »

If a fulltime member was to use an item that was not officially given to them with training, we could face definite disciplinary proceedings and a possible civil suit. The AGS would basically wash its hands of that member.

Same could happen a Reserve too so its better to be safe than sorry.

Agreed... :rolleyes:

THE PIPER

TheNog wrote: »

If a fulltime member was to use an item that was not officially given to them with training, we could face definite disciplinary proceedings and a possible civil suit. The AGS would basically wash its hands of that member.

Same could happen a Reserve too so its better to be safe than sorry.

HI Nog,any reason why reserves are not issued with cuffs and the asp if they did trainingis it just a case of being slow issuing equipment?

Murphy(Cork)

THE PIPER wrote: »

HI Nog,any reason why reserves are not issued with cuffs and the asp if they did trainingis it just a case of being slow issuing equipment?

They usually are issued them but it's just the fact that new types are coming in soon there's no point giving out the old ones, same goes for the ASP. Its a full day of training required for that and impossible to do during the reserve training

TheNog

THE PIPER wrote: »

HI Nog,any reason why reserves are not issued with cuffs and the asp if they did trainingis it just a case of being slow issuing equipment?

Murphy(Cork) wrote: »

They usually are issued them but it's just the fact that new types are coming in soon there's no point giving out the old ones, same goes for the ASP. Its a full day of training required for that and impossible to do during the reserve training

I can see the problem with training and issuing the old cuffs with new cuffs on the way in but I cant see why ye are not being trained in the ASP and being issued with them either.

Even though the ASP is and should be the last thing introduced into any situation, it is there for your protection and the protection of your colleagues.

From what I heard we will be trained with the semi rigid cuffs in the summer along with training with the pepper spray. Along with the new radios coming out and a couple of other things that are not to be made public, will mean we are moving into a more modern era of policing to tackle rising crime.

DK47

if a full time member and a reserve are on foot patrol and they are confronted by 2 men and are, lets say, attacked, am i right in thinking that the Garda is the only one that has an ASP to defend both him/her self and the reserve. Is that not leaving the reserve wide open and the garda with the reserve a soft target so to speak, or is it the case thae a reserve would never be in a situation where that could happen, also in what situation would a reserve use cufs?

Murphy(Cork)

dkhill47 wrote: »

if a full time member and a reserve are on foot patrol and they are confronted by 2 men and are, lets say, attacked, am i right in thinking that the Garda is the only one that has an ASP to defend both him/her self and the reserve. Is that not leaving the reserve wide open and the garda with the reserve a soft target so to speak, or is it the case thae a reserve would never be in a situation where that could happen, also in what situation would a reserve use cufs?

Reserves have training in ASP use and are issued them. The only ones who don't have them are the new Reserves coming out as the training for ASP's is a full day and can't be done during the weekend training and has to be organised for another time.

DK47

Murphy(Cork) wrote: »

Reserves have training in ASP use and are issued them. The only ones who don't have them are the new Reserves coming out as the training for ASP's is a full day and can't be done during the weekend training and has to be organised for another time.

cheeres murphy, that clears it up nicely,

THE PIPER

TheNog wrote: »

I can see the problem with training and issuing the old cuffs with new cuffs on the way in but I cant see why ye are not being trained in the ASP and being issued with them either.

Even though the ASP is and should be the last thing introduced into any situation, it is there for your protection and the protection of your colleagues.

From what I heard we will be trained with the semi rigid cuffs in the summer along with training with the pepper spray. Along with the new radios coming out and a couple of other things that are not to be made public, will mean we are moving into a more modern era of policing to tackle rising crime.

Thanks Nog for clearing that up,:)

THE PIPER

Murphy(Cork) wrote: »

They usually are issued them but it's just the fact that new types are coming in soon there's no point giving out the old ones, same goes for the ASP. Its a full day of training required for that and impossible to do during the reserve training

Thanks Murphy:)

paulbolg

dkhill47 wrote: »

cheeres murphy, that clears it up nicely,

hi lads i have been reading your comments on the ASP and cuffs and just wondering about what you mean about new reserves not getting issued with them beacuse the impression the Sgt's in training phase2 and in templemore give is that we are issued with them in phase 3 as that weekend is based on that training on the use of that equipment??? can someone verify this for me properly as i nor anyone in my group would be comfortable on the street without them??

freddiew

paulbolg wrote: »

hi lads i have been reading your comments on the ASP and cuffs and just wondering about what you mean about new reserves not getting issued with them beacuse the impression the Sgt's in training phase2 and in templemore give is that we are issued with them in phase 3 as that weekend is based on that training on the use of that equipment??? can someone verify this for me properly as i nor anyone in my group would be comfortable on the street without them??

I can confirm that Reserves do not get Cuffs or Baton in Templemore any more as they used to. This is because they are waiting for the new cuffs and until you do ASP training you will not be issued with the ASP. It's just the old Batons and cuffs were discontinued on a certain day and that was it.
I have been involved in all kinds of Public Order when arrests were involved and I never drew my baton, I just consentrated on holding the guy down and cuffed him but there was always back up who had cuffs as well. I think this situation will be resolved very shortly when the new cuffs arrive.

ZoneAlarm

totally agree with you on that all the ages vary from 18 to over 40 on the phase 1 i was on and a great bunch of people