Garda Reserve Experiences

rooger

also
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AND they get a gun :-)

WilcoOut

agreed with elvis!

nasty ****e altogether

i had some on my vest, near the collar and my eyes were burning well after the event

great bitta kit

mayfire911

can anyone tell me are we getting new powers ? im starting my 5 year now section's 4,6,and 8 under the public order act would be usefull for sure it would make you feel that your of some use to the full time lads and not just gathering up work for them to do dose anyone feel the same as me?

kerry4sam

mayfire911 wrote: »

can anyone tell me are we getting new powers ? im starting my 5 year now section's 4,6,and 8 under the public order act would be usefull for sure it would make you feel that your of some use to the full time lads and not just gathering up work for them to do dose anyone feel the same as me?

Hey there, welcome to our Garda Reserve forum . I would ask that firstly you familiarise yourself with our forum charter, especially in relation to txt-spk.

Secondly, you should come over and ask your question in here, a forum only for serving garda reserve members who I'm sure won't hesitate in answering for you.

kerry4sam

mayfire911 wrote: »

can anyone tell me are we getting new powers ? im starting my 5 year now section's 4,6,and 8 under the public order act would be usefull for sure it would make you feel that your of some use to the full time lads and not just gathering up work for them to do dose anyone feel the same as me?

I would answer only for the fact that I don't know as of yet. I am still very new to the garda reserves but each day I work, I learn something new in practice as opposed to reading and reading whilst off-duty. Theory is one thing but seeing operations in practice is quite another.

More powers would be great, of course, but to a new reserve - maybe not such a great idea! I would definitely be in favour of more powers going to reserves after the 2-year probationary period though. If I were to be awarded more, then obviously I won't disagree with anyone or walk away from any responsibility

kerry4sam

Now, considering their are serving Garda Reserves with 2, 3, 4+ years experience under their belts
surely it would make operational sense to introduce more powers to them to add to their experience at little extra cost considering all already have full-uniforms and equipment.

Their are ways to help with this at a slight additional cost.


anyone?

trail man

Passers by aid gardaí being assaulted

A local garda avoided serious injuries when members of the public came to his assistance as he was assaulted during the course of duty, writes Orla Hearns.

The garda, a full-time member of the force, attended a public order incident on Garden Street in Ballina at around 2.30am on Sunday last. He was in the company of a reserve garda.

The Western People understands that both officers were turned upon by a group of youths who seriously assaulted the full-time Garda. The garda is now back at work, having been treated for his injuries.

The matter is currently being investigated.

A garda spokesperson paid tribute to members of the general public who had come to the assistance of the gardaí on the night, preventing more seious injuries being inflicted.

Anyone who may have witnessed the incident is asked to contact Ballina Garda Station on (096)

kerry4sam

checkside wrote: »

Dare I ask the question, do reserves want new powers without discussing some form of payment for all the time that is required for training etc.
It is time to ask if we will be expected to do more we should be expecting at least an hourly rate starting off with the min wage?

hey there,
Welcome to our forum.

I have to say this is a very unusual first-post to have, if you are indeed a serving reserve. Why not introduce yourself here and allow us to get to know you?

munster4868

checkside wrote: »

Dare I ask the question, do reserves want new powers without discussing some form of payment for all the time that is required for training etc.
It is time to ask if we will be expected to do more we should be expecting at least an hourly rate starting off with the min wage?

Well I'am asking for a company car anyhow.. and maybe an increase in my hourly rate:D
and a super duper pension

munster4868

checkside wrote: »

With joking aside, I believe it is a serious issue and should be treated as such!
And yes it was my 1st post, and I will introduce myself as soon as I get to understand how all this board business works etc.
Rgs

I was been serious...

I look forward to you "introducing yourself"

WilcoOut

checkside wrote: »

I believe it is a serious issue and should be treated as such!

yeah i want that rolls royce pension all the gardai get

and the 1500 quid a week

and the 6 weeks annual leave

and all the free gargle coppers nightclub can provide

ZoneAlarm

checkside wrote: »

With joking aside, I believe it is a serious issue and should be treated as such!
And yes it was my 1st post, and I will introduce myself as soon as I get to understand how all this board business works etc.
Rgs

You came into this with your eyes open, no one forced you too, so the extra work load, should it come, is part and parcel of the package, i never came into this myself for the money, this is all about giving something back to your community, or if you are not in your local station someone else's community, where as the Reserve is doing his / her bit for your community, we all know the state of affairs the country is in at the moment, its bad enough the GRA dont want the reserves, can you imagine what would be said if they where going to increase the yearly rate..... I do.

kerry4sam

checkside wrote: »

Dare I ask the question, do reserves want new powers without discussing some form of payment for all the time that is required for training etc.
It is time to ask, if we will be expected to do more, we should be expecting at least an hourly rate starting off with the min wage or more?

I have been getting these types of messages via pm lately and I find it cowardly that they won't just ask what they really want to know, right here, in this public forum for all to see.

I don't know any serving Reserve who joined for the money. Ask any on the day they receive their allowance if they feel it worth their while & you'll find none signing off and resigning their position! It's not about the money! You refer above to 'we', 'we', what are your thoughts? DO you not feel full-filled at being of some help to a community on a voluntary basis? Are you not happy giving some of your time when you have it? Are you in this for the money?

Where are you going with your 'minimum wage' nonsense? The Garda Reserves that I have come to know are NOT in it for the money. More powers to serving Garda Reserves would greatly help the full-timers we are assisting, especially PUBLIC-ORDER powers, as they are the primary scenarios where we would be in to see full-timers laying down the law.
Garda Reserves already have some training and learned the law relating the acts that we don't have powers to - it wouldn't take long to refresh our memories on those laws (especially if you had a training Sgt like I did for my Legal Studies - I can assure you, you won't forget your laws); we are fully equipped and have full-uniforms and some additional time allocated to additional training to introduce Garda Reserves with Public Orders powers would ease life all around I say.

ZoneAlarm

kerry4sam wrote: »

I have been getting these types of messages via pm lately and I find it cowardly that they won't just ask what they really want to know, right here, in this public forum for all to see.

I don't know any serving Reserve who joined for the money. Ask any on the day they receive their allowance if they feel it worth their while & you'll find none signing off and resigning their position! It's not about the money! You refer above to 'we', 'we', what are your thoughts? DO you not feel full-filled at being of some help to a community on a voluntary basis? Are you not happy giving some of your time when you have it? Are you in this for the money?

Where are you going with your 'minimum wage' nonsense? The Garda Reserves that I have come to know are NOT in it for the money. More powers to serving Garda Reserves would greatly help the full-timers we are assisting, especially PUBLIC-ORDER powers, as they are the primary scenarios where we would be in to see full-timers laying down the law.
Garda Reserves already have some training and learned the law relating the acts that we don't have powers to - it wouldn't take long to refresh our memories on those laws (especially if you had a training Sgt like I did for my Legal Studies - I can assure you, you won't forget your laws); we are fully equipped and have full-uniforms and some additional time allocated to additional training to introduce Garda Reserves with Public Orders powers would ease life all around I say.

Kerry did you ever think they might not be from reserve or full time serving members, but from another source!

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Kerry did you ever think they might not be from reserve or full time serving members, but from another source!

yes! Hence the message I sent you guys!

TylerIE

checkside wrote: »

Dare I ask the question, do reserves want new powers without discussing some form of payment for all the time that is required for training etc.
It is time to ask, if we will be expected to do more, we should be expecting at least an hourly rate starting off with the min wage or more?

checkside wrote: »

With joking aside, I believe it is a serious issue and should be treated as such!
And yes it was my 1st post, and I will introduce myself as soon as I get to understand how all this board business works etc.
Rgs

If you really are a reserve I dont know what interview you did. The idea of the Garda Reserve is that it is VOLUNTARY. Making it a part time paid position just opens a total can of worms.

An expense allowance that reflects your costs incurred in being a reserve is a different matter, but being paid?

munster4868

Me thinks they are not a reserve also... BUT if he/she is and displaying an attitude like that they should resign from the Garda Reserves... Absolutely a terrible attitude to have...never in my 4.5 years service did I come across this type of money grabbing / power tripping attitude... Enough said on this by me... Ahhhh.. It takes all sorts...:eek:

kerry4sam

checkside wrote: »

Dare I ask the question, do reserves want new powers without discussing some form of payment for all the time that is required for training etc.
It is time to ask, if we will be expected to do more, we should be expecting at least an hourly rate starting off with the min wage or more?

checkside wrote: »

With joking aside, I believe it is a serious issue and should be treated as such!
And yes it was my 1st post, and I will introduce myself as soon as I get to understand how all this board business works etc.
Rgs

Okay, seeing as you are new in here I would like to bring the following threads to your attention. They will assist you in replying to our responses and then maybe you might enlighten us further as to your motives for your two opening posts above.

- our Forum Charter
- Newbies/FAQ
- Helpdesk

Those threads should have answers for you to assist you to "understand how all this board business works etc."

Also, anything else don't hesitate in posting in our forum here.

Many thanks,
kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm

We are a great bunch of people for helping others out with regarding how to get into the reserves etc, we are not a bunch of people willing to spread malicious gossip about the force.

So if in fact you are looking for help on the first matter please do not hesitate to post, we will do our best to facilitate you in answers, where possible.

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

We are a great bunch of people for helping others out with regarding how to get into the reserves etc, we are not a bunch of people willing to spread malicious gossip about the force.

So if in fact you are looking for help on the first matter please do not hesitate to post, we will do our best to facilitate you in answers, where possible.

Maybe now that PrimeTime has aired that recent & well publicized, ummmm, ah! programme?, maybe nobody will want to pm kerry4sam for another short while. That would be a shame though. I liked reading, but just couldn't get myself to reply somehow :eek:

But thanks to whoever you guys are though, enjoyable

And yes we are a great bunch of helpers on here :pac:

munster4868

Ya... They will have to get their story somewhere else...:mad:

munster4868

Kerry did u do the ASP course in April In Templemore ?

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

Kerry did u do the ASP course in April In Templemore ?

Yeah, on my birthday too

...think that's mentioned around here somewhere by me. Jeez munster you're brushing up on your detective skills I see


:cool:

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

Yeah, on my birthday too

...think that's mentioned around here somewhere by me. Jeez munster you're brushing up on your detective skills I see


:cool:

You might have met me!!!!:cool:

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

You might have met me!!!!:cool:

Yeah I had you pinned down as the *quiet & shy red-haired guy from Cork




*may not actually have been quiet & shy though

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

Yeah I had you pinned down as the *quiet & shy red-haired guy from Cork




*may not actually have been quiet & shy though

Nope... ZA will get a great laugh from that description !!!!
I was the one doing the ASP course but I was the only attested reserve doing it... For years they tried to get me to do it and I finally done it after 4 years in April!!! What date in April did u do it?

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

Nope... ZA will get a great laugh from that description !!!!
I was the one doing the ASP course but I was the only attested reserve doing it... For years they tried to get me to do it and I finally done it after 4 years in April!!! What date in April did u do it?

ah I'd you down as one of those doing the first-aid course, the day they were doing the assessments?! Damn that anyways! :mad:

Nah, you didn't do the ASP same day as me. Only 4 there that day, all from my phase

ahh, now, must do some more research then :pac:

kerry4sam

To all at Templemore Garda College, if you didn't know who I was before now, I'm guessing you do now!

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

To all at Templemore Garda College, if you didn't know who I was before now, I'm guessing you do now!

Except me yet!!

munster4868

After that info I gave: they know me also.

kerry4sam

munster4868 wrote: »

After that info I gave: they know me also.

Ah but sur we all only post on boards what we would say in person anyways so what harm.

Well done you too on passing your ASP after that time! You must've been delighted. What date did you do yours on?

munster4868

kerry4sam wrote: »

Ah but sur we all only post on boards what we would say in person anyways so what harm.

Well done you too on passing your ASP after that time! You must've been delighted. What date did you do yours on?

Won't. Give a date but at the end of April!!! Delighted.. Mmmmmm just an extra bit of kit to carry around and run with.. :eek:

ZoneAlarm

kerry4sam wrote: »

Yeah I had you pinned down as the *quiet & shy red-haired guy from Cork
*may not actually have been quiet & shy though

mmm now how can i misconstrue this post mmm pinned down that sounds fun !! .......... red hair, shy, defo not munster hahahah

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

mmm now how can i misconstrue this post mmm pinned down that sounds fun !! .......... red hair, shy, defo not munster hahahah

ha! :D:D


/won't somebody please think of the children


ummmmmmm, I wonder

kerry4sam

In case anyone here is wondering:

per request from checkside I have deleted their original two posts. They know that due to the responsibility I have as moderator to all users who post in here, the posts where they are quoted won't be edited unless the user who quoted them wants it edited.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

trail man

Hi guys..
Has any reserves ever helped out with warrants and if so what does it entail..
Have been asked to help out and am wondering what exactly is the story..
with warrants...

kerry4sam

trail man wrote: »

Hi guys..
Has any reserves ever helped out with warrants and if so what does it entail..
Have been asked to help out and am wondering what exactly is the story..
with warrants...

No I haven't touched one piece of paperwork at all & my name not added to pulse as assisting anything either though so... but lucky you being asked to help out with that though

Maybe some full-timers in here might be able to answer for you though?

ZoneAlarm

trail man wrote: »

Hi guys..
Has any reserves ever helped out with warrants and if so what does it entail..
Have been asked to help out and am wondering what exactly is the story..
with warrants...

Not sure that is for an open forum to be discussed !!

kerry4sam

ZoneAlarm wrote: »

Not sure that is for an open forum to be discussed !!

I presume their is a reason they didn't take it => ?

ZoneAlarm

kerry4sam wrote: »

In case anyone here is wondering:

per request from checkside I have deleted their original two posts. They know that due to the responsibility I have as moderator to all users who post in here, the posts where they are quoted won't be edited unless the user who quoted them wants it edited.

Thanks,
kerry4sam

mmm now this is a delima all right!! why say it and then want to retract it, something not right there, thats for sure, or they did not get the answer they where expecting !!.

I wish my quoted post's not to be edited thanks !

checkside

hi All,
The reason I wanted to take down my post is my disappointment in the very negative responses that I recieved from my fellow colleagues in the reserves. As it was my 1st post, and I taught that I would get a balanced response, instead of some very irrate one's. At that point I taught that in the best interest of not inviting anymore embarrasing remarks that might discourage other new members from using the chance to post, I withdrew my post. I would hope that a little more taught might be put into some members responses, so as not to discourage upcoming and excisting reserves from posting.
Sorry for the bother, and good luck to all reserves in their duties.

stiofanD

If you really are a serving member of the Garda Reserve, then you must be aware of how the relationship between the reserve force and the full-timers can be quite sensitive and how much work has gone into proving that we are not there to 'steal' their overtime and we do not need to be molly-coddled (despite GRA assertions to the contrary).

If it was publicised in any way that reserves were looking to profit from their time in the reserve, the damage to our reputation would be enormous.

Seen in that light, I would hope you can understand the reaction to your original post.

TylerIE

checkside wrote: »

hi All,
The reason I wanted to take down my post is my disappointment in the very negative responses that I recieved from my fellow colleagues in the reserves. As it was my 1st post, and I taught that I would get a balanced response, instead of some very irrate one's. At that point I taught that in the best interest of not inviting anymore embarrasing remarks that might discourage other new members from using the chance to post, I withdrew my post. I would hope that a little more taught might be put into some members responses, so as not to discourage upcoming and excisting reserves from posting.
Sorry for the bother, and good luck to all reserves in their duties.

Your post still seems to me like that of someone who is either a member of the media or a dis-illusioned Garda who is looking for trouble.

If you are a serving Reserve you should be aware of the allowance that is paid to cover expenses. If you grossed this up to before tax rates it would be well in excess of the minimum wage if you did your bare 208 hours per year. If your doing it for the money that is.

However there are very few jobs in the country where you can choose to do 400 extra hours and get paid an hourly rate for them.

As Volunteer Members of AGS Reserves have a role to support the organisation. The very last change I want to see is an increase in payment.

I personally would happily sacrifice my yearly allowance if it was put towards continuous professional development so that we would have more powers, rather than looking for more money!

ZoneAlarm

checkside wrote: »

hi All,
The reason I wanted to take down my post is my disappointment in the very negative responses that I recieved from my fellow colleagues in the reserves. As it was my 1st post, and I taught that I would get a balanced response, instead of some very irrate one's. At that point I taught that in the best interest of not inviting anymore embarrasing remarks that might discourage other new members from using the chance to post, I withdrew my post. I would hope that a little more taught might be put into some members responses, so as not to discourage upcoming and excisting reserves from posting.
Sorry for the bother, and good luck to all reserves in their duties.

No new member would come out with a first post like that,99% of new reserves read and thread very carefully with their first few posts, this is a person / media seeking a negative reply from the forum about the reserves which they did not get, after that what could he say then after asking for them to be taken down, a quick get out of jail card to me.

My opinion only!

TylerIE wrote: »

I personally would happily sacrifice my yearly allowance if it was put towards continuous professional development so that we would have more powers, rather than looking for more money!

Totally agree with that post above, extra cpd courses would be more beneficial to us, or maybe even a contribution to the cost of radios for the Reserve members.

kerry4sam

checkside wrote: »

hi All,
The reason I wanted to take down my post is my disappointment in the very negative responses that I recieved from my fellow colleagues in the reserves. As it was my 1st post, and I taught that I would get a balanced response, instead of some very irrate one's. At that point I taught that in the best interest of not inviting anymore embarrasing remarks that might discourage other new members from using the chance to post, I withdrew my post. I would hope that a little more taught might be put into some members responses, so as not to discourage upcoming and excisting reserves from posting.
Sorry for the bother, and good luck to all reserves in their duties.

Yeah maybe not the media input here with the spelling of 'taught' as opposed to 'thought'. I would hold the Irish media to a standard just a tad higher than that but anyway...

Their is certainly, in my opinion, input from somebody else with checksides' enquiry here. You're still in training yeah? Phase4 only? Plenty to learn about the internet; discussion forums; lack of effort by the media in searching new topics if the responses they want are here for them eh!

I am sorry to disappoint you in you not getting a response you might have been hoping for. The replies above me are from veteran Garda Reserves whose opinions I would hold at high regard.

You were no bother at all, I can assure you. You can come back again and sur we'll reply to you again

Thanks for coming on here again to clarify what you told me via pm for all to read.
kerry4sam

checkside

Thanks kerry4sam, I am what I say I am. And yes I sur thought taught was thought. however every day is a school day I guess,:)
I don't think I will be posting again for a long while.cheers and good luck

kerry4sam

checkside wrote: »

Thanks kerry4sam, I am what I say I am. And yes I sur thought taught was thought. however every day is a school day I guess,:)
I don't think I will be posting again for a long while.cheers and good luck

Their is plenty more wrong with the grammar in my post, not just the spelling of 'sur' but sur thanks for the reply anyway.

kerry4sam

kerry4sam

Now, the forum is still open to you who wanted my input for the topics raised in PrimeTime.

You're next if you want to be, come on in

Thanks,
kerry4sam

munster4868

checkside wrote: »

Thanks kerry4sam, I am what I say I am. And yes I sur thought taught was thought. however every day is a school day I guess,:)
I don't think I will be posting again for a long while.cheers and good luck

Buy... I mean BYE

westcoastboy

did any of yez get new uniform issued to you yet, ours the regulars and reserves is been delivered this week