Dave Mooney

estebancambias

Scored again today, and apparently a Chelsea scout was there to watch him play.

CantGetNoSleep

Could become the new Claudio Pizarro so

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Chelsea, lol.

estebancambias

I don't want him to move.....got a Cork jersey arriving in the post and I want his name on the back....might go for Gamble if he leaves. He's also the sort of player who can make the difference in Europe, and its great that its possible to watch him regulary. What will he do though with Anelka? Bit of a fight on for the number 39.

I also want him to be called up to the Ireland team as an EL player.

Coppell was also at the match.

DSB

Haha hes a good player but Chelsea? You've gota be having a laugh.

estebancambias

Maby they see something in him? What is he like? 23?

According to RTE this is by the way.

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There's no way on god's green earth Chelsea are looking at signing Mooney.

None.

End of.

estebancambias

So they sent a scout there for the laugh?

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estebancambias wrote: »

So they sent a scout there for the laugh?

Maybe they didn't send him there.

Maybe the guy who is Chelsea's scout in Ireland was just at the game.

I know a guy who used to scout for Manchester United over here. An Irish guy who liked football, and liked to go to matches.

Doesn't mean he was actually working all the time.

Anyway, even if he was sent to look at Mooney, his report will tell them something like this:

Looks a decent player, but not near good enough for a team hoping to challenge for the EPL and CL.

So, again.

Mooney won't be going to Chelsea. Ever.

CHD

He was on holidays probably

estebancambias

Des wrote: »

Maybe they didn't send him there.

Maybe the guy who is Chelsea's scout in Ireland was just at the game.

I know a guy who used to scout for Manchester United over here. An Irish guy who liked football, and liked to go to matches.

Doesn't mean he was actually working all the time.

Anyway, even if he was sent to look at Mooney, his report will tell them something like this:

Looks a decent player, but not near good enough for a team hoping to challenge for the EPL and CL.

So, again.

Mooney won't be going to Chelsea. Ever.

Well said in fairness Des.

He was on holidays probably

Was expecting a lol.

brick tamland

I'm sure he'll be off to England pretty soon but i''m also a 100% sure it wont be to Chelsea.

Reading would be a good move for him in my Opinion.

CHD

Its more than likely that there wasn't a Chelsea scout there at all in fairness.It does say.........

Reading boss Steve Coppell was in United Park for Sunday's encounter, while a Chelsea scout was also believed to be in attendance.

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estie, you should get a job for a tabloid.

If Mooney goes to Reading, Cork City may as well start wearing blue and white hoops.

estebancambias

Cork are the Ajax of the Eircom League...

gary the great

I cant believe how good he is now, i used to play with him when i was younger and he was nothing special at all, just very very average. i was a lot better than him anyway i used to get my game ahead of him, so it should be chelsea scouts should be looking at me

Ah good luck to him though, hope he gets even better. Another Tallaght lad, Tallaght produces soem of the best players in this country - Keane, Dunne and well Duffers from just outside Tallaght to!

zAbbo

Des wrote: »

Chelsea, lol.

He's the missing jigsaw piece to european domination

estebancambias

gary the great wrote: »

I cant believe how good he is now, i used to play with him when i was younger and he was nothing special at all, just very very average. i was a lot better than him anyway i used to get my game ahead of him, so it should be chelsea scouts should be looking at me

Ah good luck to him though, hope he gets even better. Another Tallaght lad, Tallaght produces soem of the best players in this country - Keane, Dunne and well Duffers from just outside Tallaght to!

Thats the same with Chris Fagan who plays for Man Utd reserves. I wasn't as good as him but I wasn't far off. I was shocked when I heard he was with UTD.

Then another lad plays with Ireland u-17, and I was much better than him, as were so many others on the team.

applehunter

estebancambias wrote: »

Cork are the Ajax of the Eircom League...

We do lose more players to foreign teams than most.:(

tetsujin1979

estebancambias wrote: »

Thats the same with Chris Fagan who plays for Man Utd reserves. I wasn't as good as him but I wasn't far off. I was shocked when I heard he was with UTD.

Fagan was released in the summer, had trials at a few clubs, and was at the Glen Hoddle Academy.
mentioned in a short article about some of the players released here: http://manunitedyouth.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/where-next-for-those-moving-on/

dsmythy

I'm surprised Roy Keane hasn't come sniffing considering his love of signing Irish players. (Or Spurs ones too. At least trying to anyway)

RebelRockChick

dsmythy wrote: »

I'm surprised Roy Keane hasn't come sniffing considering his love of signing Irish players. (Or Spurs ones too. At least trying to anyway)

It was rumoured he was interested in Mooney (surprise, surprise).

So that's Wolves, Plymouth, Sunderland, Crystal Palace, Reading and Chelsea that have had scouts over/expressed interest or rumours of it anyway. Another week, another club...

Not sure if Coppell or the Chelsea scout would have been impressed by Moons against Drogs, wasn't one of his better games.

gimmick

So far, Coppell has said he would be willing to pay €500k for him. Thats great :rolleyes: . Carlisles "offer" of €100k has been laughed at in its rejection.

Mooney has said he aint going anywhere for now. He will stay until at least the end of the season. When he inevitably does go, it will be at least €1m.

sitout

keane has send scouts to see him on more than one occasion this season. the smart money is on sunderland

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the smart Mooney stays in Cork.

Zebra3

Des wrote: »

the smart Mooney stays in Cork.

Nobody smart stays in Cork.

Amazing run of goals from Mooney atm. Fair play to him.

quarryman

tetsujin1979 wrote: »

Fagan was released in the summer, had trials at a few clubs, and was at the Glen Hoddle Academy.
mentioned in a short article about some of the players released here: http://manunitedyouth.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/where-next-for-those-moving-on/

a good read there. It reminds just how tough it is to make it in professional football. In most cases its such a gamble due to the competition for places.

Tom65

Maybe he's Chelsea's 2nd choice after Kaka?

Pure Cork

brick tamland wrote: »

I'm sure he'll be off to England pretty soon but i''m also a 100% sure it wont be to Chelsea.

Reading would be a good move for him in my Opinion.

Mooney will not move to a sh*t club like Carlisle. Reading, Coppell and Dolan can f*ck off. They haven't a hope of signing him anyway. Mooney will only leave for Premier League football or football in a top European league. He certainly will not leave before the end of the season.

Mooney has said he will stay in Cork. He wants to win trophies with City and play European football.

CantGetNoSleep

Pure Cork wrote: »

Mooney will not move to a sh*t club like Carlisle. Reading, Coppell and Dolan can f*ck off. They haven't a hope of signing him anyway. Mooney will only leave for Premier League football or football in a top European league. He certainly will not leave before the end of the season.

Mooney has said he will stay in Cork. He wants to win trophies with City and play European football.

Is this post a wind up? Ask anyone in the Eircom League if they would sign for Reading if given the chance, 99% would say yes

sitout

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Is this post a wind up? Ask anyone in the Eircom League if they would sign for Reading if given the chance, 99% would say yes

Maybe he is in the 1% catagory then! I would love him to see out the rest of the season with us and then cash in to the tune of a million squid. Then we could buy 5/6 quality players to add to our pretty good squad and rule the leauge of ireland for the next few years!

HalloweenJack

I can only see Mooney moving up in the footballing world. He's been outstanding for Cork this year, after doing very well for Longford last year.

I see his future away from the el. I don't think any offer Cork could make would topple any from an EPL club.

I think Reading would be a bad move. He shouldn't settle for a Championship side. If he wants to move to England, he should go to someone in the mid-region of the EPL, at least.

zAbbo

Is he that good? or are you lot having us on?

You're saying he should go to mid table at least, so clubs like Man City, West Ham, Spurs, Newcastle, Boro...at least!

Most of those teams have spent around 40m on strikers recently...

Boysoboys if this guy is as good as you say he is, things are looking very bright indeed! :pac:

eirebhoy

Reading had a £500k bid for Noel Hunt turned down earlier today according to the Scottish Herald.

applehunter

Noel Hunt...a poor mans John O'Flynn.

Good piece tonight on MNS about the comparison between Mark Quigley and Mooney.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/

bohsman

zAbbo wrote: »

Is he that good? or are you lot having us on?

Finishing top scorer in the league playing for easily relegated Longford last season was some achievement, most thought it was a one off but hes flying again this season

2 almost 3 great goals in this game v Derry
goals at 4:10 4:50 and unbelievable effort at 5:10 Behans winner at 5:37 is a cracker aswell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksUBYELAnXQ

gimmick

HalloweenJack wrote: »

He shouldn't settle for a Championship side. If he wants to move to England, he should go to someone in the mid-region of the EPL, at least.

With respect, the jump from eL to premiership is absolutely massive and one which cannot be easily made. Roy Keane aside, I don't think anyone has made the transition easily. Mooney, and any other eL player, would do well to get a seasons experience in the Championship before trying his hand at the Premiership. Kevin Doyle and Shane Long being the best examples there.

LuckyLloyd

Pure Cork wrote: »

Mooney will not move to a sh*t club like Carlisle. Reading, Coppell and Dolan can f*ck off. They haven't a hope of signing him anyway. Mooney will only leave for Premier League football or football in a top European league. He certainly will not leave before the end of the season.

Mooney has said he will stay in Cork. He wants to win trophies with City and play European football.

Awwwww. You guys are adorable. Cute as buttons I say.

Some facts:

- The step up from the Eircom League to the Championship is very significant. A step up from the Eircom league to a team challenging for the top six in the premiership is lol enormous;

- Dave Mooney would rather be playing in the Reading first team and challenging for promotion to the premiership than playing in the Eircom league. Better pay, better career prospects, better training facilities, and much better football. It's nice that he presses all of your buttons though and says the right things;

- In terms of his career development, it would be much better for him to go to Wolves / Reading / decent Championship team and get in the first team than to go to Chelsea to play reserve team football / get loaned out to a league one or two feeder side. By doing that it can mean that he lays the foundations to be where he dreams of being when he comes into his peak in four years time and should ensure a higher overall career expectation;


You guys really, really need to get a reality check and know your place in the grander scheme of things. Jesus.

EDIT: Gimmick chimed in with something sensible as I typed. Good.

bohsman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Awwwww. You guys are adorable. Cute as buttons I say.



You guys really, really need to get a reality check and know your place in the grander scheme of things. Jesus.

EDIT: Gimmick chimed in with something sensible as I typed. Good.

I take it you are talking about Cork people?

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LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You guys really, really need to get a reality check and know your place in the grander scheme of things. Jesus.

EDIT: Gimmick chimed in with something sensible as I typed. Good.

The Chelsea thing was put to bed at the start of this thread. I've been reading the rest of it as piss-take tbh, maybe you should have a re-read.

gimmick

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Some facts:

- Dave Mooney would rather be playing in the Reading first team and challenging for promotion to the premiership than playing in the Eircom league.

Did he tell you that? If not, its not a fact.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Better pay, better career prospects, better training facilities, and much better football.

I would debate that slightly. He could as easily lose his way over there, and not return the same player. Jason Byrne springs to mind in that regard. As for standard of football, its not as huge a gap as what you may imagine. Lower region championship level is not that far away from the higher standard eL.

LuckyLloyd

bohsman wrote: »

I take it you are talking about Cork people?

Well just Cork City fans...for now!

Des wrote: »

The Chelsea thing was put to bed at the start of this thread. I've been reading the rest of it as piss-take tbh, maybe you should have a re-read.

look at the post I quoted!! :eek:

LuckyLloyd

gimmick wrote: »

I would debate that slightly. He could as easily lose his way over there, and not return the same player. Jason Byrne springs to mind in that regard. As for standard of football, its not as huge a gap as what you may imagine. Lower region championship level is not that far away from the higher standard eL.

Jason Byrne doesn't look as good as Mooney does though, right? He just wasn't good enough.

As to your second point, have you been to many Championship games? The gap in pace and technical ability is huge sir. Huge.

bohsman

Byrne was unlucky with injuries, Cardiff signing him was a strange one anyway with all the overpaid over the hill strikers they had at the club. And yes, I think Mooney is better than Byrne, but what do I know, I never rated Doyle when he was over here.

I dont think you're comparing like with like in the championship - el debate, you watch UCD, they try to kill football and are a really really bad team. I dont watch much of the championship but I dont think the top 3 in the el would get relegated from it.

gimmick

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Jason Byrne doesn't look as good as Mooney does though, right? He just wasn't good enough.

Byrne was top scorer in the eL many times, and for me anyway, it was a surprise he floundered. Though that may have been due to lack of oppurtunity as alluded to above.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

As to your second point, have you been to many Championship games? The gap in pace and technical ability is huge sir. Huge.

I've been to QPR more than my fair share of times. I have seen them play the likes of Rotherham, Plymouth and Burnley. Nothing amazing, nothing technically superior to eL. I have also been to a crap load League One games, where I can assure, the standrad, generally speaking, is below that of top eL clubs.

LuckyLloyd

bohsman wrote: »

Byrne was unlucky with injuries, Cardiff signing him was a strange one anyway with all the overpaid over the hill strikers they had at the club. And yes, I think Mooney is better than Byrne, but what do I know, I never rated Doyle when he was over here.

I dont think you're comparing like with like in the championship - el debate, you watch UCD, they try to kill football and are a really really bad team. I dont watch much of the championship but I dont think the top 3 in the el would get relegated from it.

UCD do their best with limited resources and will never realistically be able to build a team to challenge further up the table due to the club's structure. You generally get 100% effort and Mahon is tactically sharp so I never feel shortchanged. Anyway...

UCD play the top teams in the EL though right?? I don't go to every home game obv, but what I have seen over the past few years has never really impressed me. Bristol vs Southampton and Charlton vs Southampton did impress me from last year.

gimmick wrote: »

Byrne was top scorer in the eL many times, and for me anyway, it was a surprise he floundered. Though that may have been due to lack of opportunity as alluded to above.

Well, the key is that he went to a club with the likes of Fowler and JFH on the roster as Oscar points out above. Which is my point with Mooney. Saying "zomg he's gone to Chelsea!!" when he is never going to be first choice is silly. A move to Burnley wouldn't sound glamorous - but if he got to start every week it would be the right move for his career.

On a final point with respect to Byrne - if he had moved when he was 23 he would have had a much better shout of making it over there long term. I think we could all agree on that, right?

scruff321

id say there was just some lad there wearing a chelsea jacket and suddenly alarm bells started ringin:rolleyes:

gimmick

Or possibly someone affiliated with Chelsea decided to take in a game while he was around Dublin for the weekend. One way or other, i doubt Chelsea will be looking at with an interest to buy Dave Mooney, good and all as he is.

SectionF

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

UCD play the top teams in the EL though right?? I don't go to every home game obv, but what I have seen over the past few years has never really impressed me. Bristol vs Southampton and Charlton vs Southampton did impress me from last year.

As everyone knows, UCD specialise in making much better teams look embarrassingly bad. I don't know how they do it, but they consistently succeed, especially against us. If you wanted to make sure that someone never wanted to watch a game of football anywhere ever again, you would take them to a UCD game, preferably in the Belfield Bowl, a place with so little atmosphere that it would strip anyone of the will to live.

gimmick

I think we might be a little unfair to UCD. They are nowhere near as much an "anti football" side as what they were before. or maybe I am just saying that because their hex over us has been forgotten!

ditpoker

gimmick wrote: »

Did he tell you that? If not, its not a fact.



I would debate that slightly. He could as easily lose his way over there, and not return the same player. Jason Byrne springs to mind in that regard. As for standard of football, its not as huge a gap as what you may imagine. Lower region championship level is not that far away from the higher standard eL.

having had trials at both levels i 1000000% assure you that eircom league would scratch the surface of the worst league 2 sides. this is fact. the EL champions would struggle in league 2, STRUGGLE!