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keithclancy

MugMugs wrote: »

Given that you don't require a VISA for your destination, yeah, you'll be fine.

No, you cannot do that.

They will charge you in that case as the details you provided are wrong.

E.G. In another case I know of he checked in with his Italian National ID Card and in the meantime he lost his wallet.

Went to the gate with his Passport and was refused.

ID Type and Number was incorrect.

keithclancy

bnear wrote: »

Ok just when I'd given up hope you tell me this

Not sure if I'd want to chance it to be honest, its Ryanair afteralll........

What country is it OP ?

Most don't require a Visa for US Citizens in the EU anyway (few eastern European countries are exceptions)

bnear

Its France so no worries there...

computer44

Passport number must be the same as your boarding pass number or scan ID,

If the two do not configure that's trouble,

Would not worth it.

computer44

It states THAT any airline ticket is non-transferable to anyone.

The body must physically arrive. Do passport checks and security.

Ryanair have a 60 euro policy that you can do this but 62 days before departure
and give your own passport number and photo ID.

MugMugs

keithclancy wrote: »

No, you cannot do that.

They will charge you in that case as the details you provided are wrong.

E.G. In another case I know of he checked in with his Italian National ID Card and in the meantime he lost his wallet.

Went to the gate with his Passport and was refused.

ID Type and Number was incorrect.

Can you actually recall ever seeing a Ryanair boarding agent cross referencing your ID Number with that on your boarding pass?

computer44

Ryan Air now scans every passport. I am a frequent traveller and Ryan Air will not allow an idiot like you even get on an aircraft.

Keep out of Dublin airport,

Holding up flight times when your arrested by Airport Police.

And then to Mount Joy.

?Cee?view

computer44 wrote: »

Ryan Air now scans every passport. I am a frequent traveller and Ryan Air will not allow an idiot like you even get on an aircraft.

Keep out of Dublin airport,

Holding up flight times when your arrested by Airport Police.

And then to Mount Joy.

?

Arrested for what exactly?

computer44

Yes I was on flight to Madrid and they check one way or other. Always Ryanair,

Seen 5 students from UL being hauled in because of baggage restrictions.

And found 2 students were travelling on invalid tickets.

Spanish police are not that kind as UK police. Cell for the night buddy.

?Cee?view

But what is this guy going to get arrested for?

MugMugs

computer44 wrote: »

Yes I was on flight to Madrid and they check one way or other. Always Ryanair,

Seen 5 students from UL being hauled in because of baggage restrictions.

And found 2 students were travelling on invalid tickets.

Spanish police are not that kind as UK police. Cell for the night buddy.

Spain is a bit different what with them having mandatory APIS conditions.

It is of no concern to the Spanish authorities if the information contained on the booking of your flight with Ryanair is correct or not once all APIS information is correct and in the event that it is not, then and only then will the airline receive a fine. The customer will not receive custody.

computer44

Travelling on an invalid passport that will not meet security regs IN THAT IT CARRIES A 5yr prison sentence.

Maybe you should go Damascus and save us a bit of trouble.

MugMugs

computer44 wrote: »

Travelling on an invalid passport that will not meet security regs IN THAT IT CARRIES A 5yr prison sentence.

Maybe you should go Damascus and save us a bit of trouble.

But it is not the OP's intention to travel on an "invalid passport"

The OP intends to make use of a valid US passport.

Can you quote the statute which you are using to derive that a five year prison sentence follows the above?

?Cee?view

computer44 wrote: »

Travelling on an invalid passport that will not meet security regs IN THAT IT CARRIES A 5yr prison sentence.

His U.S. passport is perfectly valid for travel.

computer44 wrote: »

Maybe you should go Damascus and save us a bit of trouble.

So the OP is an idiot and someone else (me?), should go to Damascus to save you trouble? :rolleyes:

computer44

The airport police were giving no concessions in Madrid, they were Uni students
knowing the credit card of Mum and Dad would suffice.

Hauled off to the local police station.

I have been on flights with students and young males from Ireland.

Their an absolute nightmare. I was going to Stalis in Crete in 2009 with
my son. The flight diverted to Athens with my son in distress.

They do target young males

?Cee?view

computer44 wrote: »

The airport police were giving no concessions in Madrid, they were Uni students
knowing the credit card of Mum and Dad would suffice.

Hauled off to the local police station.

I have been on flights with students and young males from Ireland.

Their an absolute nightmare. I was going to Stalis in Crete in 2009 with
my son. The flight diverted to Athens with my son in distress.

They do target young males

But what is this guy going to get arrested for? Why is he an idiot? Why should someone go to Damascus?

computer44

Getting troubled now, some one is losing it.

Take a relax moment.

?Cee?view

computer44 wrote: »

Getting troubled now, some one is losing it.

Take a relax moment.

I'm not the one calling people idiots and avoiding questions

bnear

computer44 wrote: »

Getting troubled now, some one is losing it.

Take a relax moment.

I think you lost it a long time ago mate....
Thanks for the help everyone else, I've sorted the problem so we can all relax....:D

computer44

I would not personally do it, but the person gets away with it its putting
valid passengers down.

Deep blue and an a nice blue ocean springs to mind.

ITS ILLEGAL and that person knows that.

computer44

Then you will not be annoying people again.

Keep your responses to yourself.

When you arrive in Leeds take the next available flight to Gatwick
and figure out where do I go to next.

Singapore airlines have a good deal at the moment.

?Cee?view

OP,

You're not doing anything illegal. You're merely trying to find a way to use a ticket which was bought for you. At the very worst you're potentially breaking some of Ryanair's rules, but that doesn't amount to illegality.

You're not putting "valid passengers" "down" whomever the former are and whatever the latter is.

You're no idiot.

All the best, enjoy your trip!

ScottSF

Yikes, how did this discussion go wrong?!

Let's just review the Ryanair check in and boarding policy at Dublin airport. If you are a non-EU citizen, you have to go to the check in area to get your "Visa Stamp" on your boarding card. Simple enough, but if your boarding card says EU citizen then they'll be confused and likely notice the mismatch. What they will do I have no idea but I can only guess there is a high fee for that unless it is already too late.

Now if the person skips the Visa Stamp and goes directly to the gate, the passport is checked at boarding time. Perhaps they wouldn't notice the mismatch, but I can only guess they'll see a non-EU passport right away and expect to find a Visa Stamp. So that would probably not work.

So I agree that calling Ryanair and getting it fixed is the smart option. Now looking at their website, there is something called an "Uncheck Fee". Maybe that is to un-check you in so you can check-in with the US passport. I certainly wonder...
http://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions#regulations-tableoffees

Now one more important thing... On the way back there is a slight possibility the check in desk will ask you "how long you'll be staying in Ireland." Since you are traveling on a US passport you can stay for 90 days as a tourist of course. Hopefully if you say you are an Irish citizen and show your expired Ireland passport, you'll be grand. Just be prepared as it happens occasionally.

bnear

Thanks for that ScottSF, I was pretty sure it was'nt worth risking and had no intention of trying, it was my friend who thought it was worth a shot, easy for him....
I was just curious to see if anyone had tried it before, my friend bought me another ticket as he messed up in the first place, the twit....
so the problem is solved. I'll bring my expired Irish passport for getting back into the country but can't imagine that'll be a problem...
I have no idea why the discussion went so wrong, most people read my original post and responded to the questions I asked and I appreciate all the advice they gave.
Anyway I'm looking forward to my break, so thanks again for the help everyone.:D

schemingbohemia

andersat2 wrote: »

here we go...
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/transport-and-tourism/ryanair-clips-wings-of-online-critics-1.1524279


Ryanair has outlined to a court in South Africa the steps it is taking around the globe to identify people who are making anonymous critical comments on the internet about its attitude towards safety.

The airline has secured an order forcing African telecoms group Telkom to furnish it with information that might help identify a person who has made internet postings using the tag alwaysflying. The company is also seeking information on a specific IP address in South Africa.
The person has made postings on an internet site called PPRuNe.org, which is used by pilots to discuss matters to do with their work.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary: Ryanair had sued over articles based on a television documentary programme that claimed to reveal safety and fuel issues at the airline. Photograph: Bertil Enevag Ericson/Scanpix/Reuters
Libel settlement ‘vindicates’ Ryanair safety, says O’Leary
The Irish Times takes no responsibility for the content or availability of other websites.
Ryanair company secretary Juliusz Komorek told the court in an affidavit that one posting falsely portrayed the airline as having an incompetent flying crew and that this could affect the airline’s reputation and business.
The posting read: “I don’t care if it’s wind/ delays/ weather or anything, if you are flying around your destination eating into alternate fuel then you shouldn’t be a pilot. If they were employed at my company I would have fired the lot of them!”
Mr Komorek told the court the airline had no objection to honest, objective and legitimate comment, but would seek the removal of unlawful and wrong statements and seek a public apology.
The court was told Ryanair had engaged a law firm in Los Angeles, Holland & Knight LLP, to file libel proceedings against a number of defendants in the Los Angeles Superior Court.
It had also issued proceedings against Internet Brands in California, the registered owner of the PPRuNe.org site, and issued supoenas against Yahoo, Microsoft and Google in pursuit of information.
The information gathered was examined for it by specialist consultancy company Word to the Wise, which idenfied IP addresses in Ireland, the UK and South Africa.

‘Always flying’
It is understood Ryanair has indentified the person who used the ‘always flying’ tag and will take legal proceedings as a result. In some cases the airline has secured public apologies from people who made anonymous postings as well as donations to charities, according to one source.
Earlier this year Ryanair got court orders in the Republic instructing Eircom and UPC to provide it with information concerning the identity of parties whom, the High Court was told, had made postings that falsely impugned Ryanair’s excellent safety record.
It has initiated up to six sets of legal proceedings in the Republic against individuals who made postings on PPRuNe.org concerning the airline, according to the source.

Sorry but what has this got to do with consumer relations and Ryanair?

keithclancy

MugMugs wrote: »

Can you actually recall ever seeing a Ryanair boarding agent cross referencing your ID Number with that on your boarding pass?

Yes, I was personally with someone that was denied boarding a flight.

If they see IRELAND and the person hands over a UNITED STATES passport they stop you and deny you boarding.

Non EU is even more strict due to the airline being responsible for your deportation if the need arises.

I would assume this is why Ryanair insist you go to the check in desk to get your boarding paper stamped before you even get to the check in desk.

People are mixing up border control and airline ID checks.

The Airline only checks that you are the correct person and that you have a valid travel document that's valid where you are going to.

Border control is a different thing altogether and a second check when you enter the country at immigration.

Beefy78

What a crazy few pages! Arrested? Ahaha.

Anyway bnear, you said this is sorted but it's very straight forward anyway by my reading. Ryanair, for all the stick they get, are surprisingly good at straightening problems out like this, just one two minute call should have you re-checked in on your US passport for no cost other than the call. Similar thing happened to me once.

No night in the cells for you!

Kotek Besar

computer44 wrote: »

Travelling on an invalid passport that will not meet security regs IN THAT IT CARRIES A 5yr prison sentence.

Maybe you should go Damascus and save us a bit of trouble.

Total tripe.

keithclancy

Kotek Besar wrote: »

Total tripe.

Only thing there is a heavy penalty for is trying to travel on a lost passport.

After you report it lost it's cancelled and no longer valid.

E.G. Reporting it lost, applying for a new one, in the meantime finding the old one and then travelling on it.

Is Guilty of an offence under the Passport Act 2008 - Section 20, attempting to travel on a cancelled passport.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2008/en/act/pub/0004/print.html

Would only really be an issue if the OP reported the expired one as lost and attempted to travel with it while after applying for a new one.

But he's not doing that so its grand

AFAIK its up to a 5000 euro fine or 1 year in Prison.

joeysoap

two points:

last year I flew from Faro to Dublin with Ryanair. I was over the 15 days so had to print out my boarding pass in Portugal. I was in an internet cafe and went to print out the boarding passes, but hadn't thought of bringing the passports with me. Knew expiry dates, and passport numbers (sad, I know) Unfortunately I 'reversed' the numbers on the passports ie my number on her passport and vice versa. Having flown from Faro many times I knew they didn't have scanners at the security desk. *They do scan the passport at passport control, but they don't check the boarding passes, just passports. I had no problem boarding or flying. Maybe if they had scanners at Faro security they would have detected the numbers were awry. Me bad. Maybe I should have got 5 years in the pokey.

A friend of mine recently flew to London using an Irish passport, left it in London by mistake , and used his Australian passport on the return leg. Aer Lingus. No problem flying but passport control in Dublin 'warned' him never to do that again. He had to prove to them he had duel citizenship.

* Only airport I know where you have to queue at passport control to LEAVE the country. Queues here can take up to 15 minutes in high season.