"The General" - Hero or Villain

KINGofHEARTS

I've just finished reading the book "The General" by Paul Williams, and I have to say alot of it was very amusing, the stuff he got up to and got away with certainly made me laugh. Considering he was not a drug dealer like the scum of modern times makes him that bit more like able. IMO

So do people think he is a legend of Irish criminal history and generally an ordinary decent criminal or just another low life who got what was coming to him.

orestes

He was a scumbag

Xavi6

Where's the Atari Jaguar option?

drusk

Villain

SV

Legend.

funk-you

A knacker that is portrayed as a legend.

-Funk

dsmythy

Easy one. Criminal.

Terry

He was a violent criminal.
Nothing really heroic about him.

Ok, some of the stuff was a bit funny (The petrol thing), but mostly he was just a scumbag.

chickenhawk

99% scumbag, 1% funny.

mickdw

Bit of a genius but 100% scumbag

ojewriej

He nailed some lad to the floor (or was it a pool table?), blew up a scientist who was going to testiify against him, bullied a hot dog vendor out of business, scared a little girl out of testyfing against a fella who raped her. And that's just highlights.

He was a scumbag criminal.

Sherifu

Just another low life although having movies made about you isn't bad.

Dave!

A scumbag who robbed from people and justified it by portraying himself as Robin Hood.

And who was totally glamourised by John Boorman.

He was a total scumbag.

Plug

He seems like a good laugh to be on your side but I wouldn't recommend him not liking you.
I think he was cool:)

Creature

Low life piece of ****.

DublinWriter

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

So do people think he is a legend of Irish criminal history and generally an ordinary decent criminal or just another low life who got what was coming to him.

ODC? He was scum. Obviously you flicked over the part in William's book that described how he held a 72 year old woman living in a flat on Lesson Street prisoner for 36 hours.

boneless

Scum of the lowest kind. He put over 100 ordinary working class people on the dole after the O'Conners robbery. Add that to the above crimes...

SantryRed

Scumbag.

KINGofHEARTS

DublinWriter wrote: »

ODC? He was scum. Obviously you flicked over the part in William's book that described how he held a 72 year old woman living in a flat on Lesson Street prisoner for 36 hours.

Obviously you flicked over the part where he kept them for 12 hours and assured them they be alright and brought them several cups of tea and biscuits and made sure they were looked after.

Tha Gopher

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Considering he was not a drug dealer like the scum of modern times makes him that bit more like able. IMO

Ever smoked a spliff? Probably. Who the fcuk do you think brought it into the country? Howard Marks or some other jolly boys?


http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/May28/28film.html

While the source is somewhat biased it quotes Williams as stating Cahill, while not directly handling drugs, was fronting payments. Hardly for the good of his health Id imagine, I presume he wanted a return. After all this was the early 90s. Heroin (along with ecstasy) was becoming big money again.

dr.bollocko

He is an absolute pox ridden scum bag. His ilk should be wiped off the face of the planet. Not applauded in reactionary nonsense because he comes across as some sort of modern Peter Pan or something.
An absolute disgrace.

mikedragon32

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Obviously you flicked over the part where he kept them for 12 hours and assured them they be alright and brought them several cups of tea and biscuits and made sure they were looked after.

Oh. That's alright then.

Scumbag. (him, not you)

Tipsy Mac

He's a pure Scangaraguan.

Here_Young_Wan

Pure horrible scumbag.....why people glorify him is beyond me.

Agamemnon

Scumbag.

Jesus Wept

I like Brendan Gleeson.

david_the_great

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

I've just finished reading the book "The General" by Paul Williams, and I have to say alot of it was very amusing, the stuff he got up to and got away with certainly made me laugh. Considering he was not a drug dealer like the scum of modern times makes him that bit more like able. IMO

So do people think he is a legend of Irish criminal history and generally an ordinary decent criminal or just another low life who got what was coming to him.

he's a scumbag

david_the_great

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Obviously you flicked over the part where he kept them for 12 hours and assured them they be alright and brought them several cups of tea and biscuits and made sure they were looked after.

oh what a martyr- he kidnapped n old woman but at least she was kept in tea!

gcgirl

Total low life!

mike65

Forget the Atari option where the TROLL box for ticking?

Mike.

ejmaztec

Even the worms wouldn't eat him ...................................

Nermal

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Considering he was not a drug dealer like the scum of modern times makes him that bit more like able.

Sinn Feinner / scrounger alarm activated. Why do your sort always prefer psychopaths to drug dealers? Does the thought of entrepeneurial activity make you come out in hives? Pleb friend overdosed? Do tell.

Flamed Diving

A murdering scumbag.

The Mighty Ken

Dirty piece of scum who ultimately got what he deserved - a bullet in the head.

phantom_lord

I think he was great tbh.

Jesus Wept

I think you're great tbh.

dr.bollocko

Great meaning large or immense?

JohnnyChimpo

we use it in the perjorative sense

phantom_lord

The-Rigger wrote: »

I think you're great tbh.

likewise. let's elope.

Kold

I thought he was good in Harry Potter.

Terry

Tha Gopher wrote: »

Ever smoked a spliff? Probably. Who the fcuk do you think brought it into the country? Howard Marks or some other jolly boys?


http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/May28/28film.html

While the source is somewhat biased it quotes Williams as stating Cahill, while not directly handling drugs, was fronting payments. Hardly for the good of his health Id imagine, I presume he wanted a return. After all this was the early 90s. Heroin (along with ecstasy) was becoming big money again.

Cahill brought hash into Ireland?
that's stretching it a bit.
He would only have been a child when that first became profitable here and would only have been small fry when heroin reared its ugly head.
Heroin was introduced in large quantities by some family whose name I can't remember right now.

Nermal wrote: »

Sinn Feinner / scrounger alarm activated. Why do your sort always prefer psychopaths to drug dealers? Does the thought of entrepeneurial activity make you come out in hives? Pleb friend overdosed? Do tell.

Cahill wasn't exactly a popular person with Sinn Fein or the IRA.
He had dealings with loyalist terrorists.

KINGofHEARTS

Just a reminder here guys...

1) I didn't say I wanted to dig him up and suck him off...

2) I just simply said his antics playing the law the way he did amused me and I found it funny how one man could get so much play over an entire police force

Nemal... you make me laugh

KINGofHEARTS

Kold wrote: »

I thought he was good in Harry Potter.

Terry wrote: »

Cahill brought hash into Ireland?
that's stretching it a bit.
He would only have been a child when that first became profitable here and would only have been small fry when heroin reared its ugly head.
Heroin was introduced in large quantities by some family whose name I can't remember right now.



I know the name ... am I allowed post it here ???

BeansMeansHynes

Complete sumbag.

BeansMeansHynes

Kingofhearts can you pm me the name of the family.

I cant remember for the life of me and its driving me crazy. I can only remember one of the brothers first names.

Cahill was behind the scenes in the drugs trade which is something a lot of people dont know. He fronted a lot of big payments for drug shipments.

Volvoboy

BeansMeansHynes wrote: »

Kingofhearts can you pm me the name of the family.

I cant remember for the life of me and its driving me crazy. I can only remember one of the brothers first names.

Cahill was behind the scenes in the drugs trade which is something a lot of people dont know. He fronted a lot of big payments for drug shipments.

How do you know?

Terry

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Terry wrote: »

Cahill brought hash into Ireland?
that's stretching it a bit.
He would only have been a child when that first became profitable here and would only have been small fry when heroin reared its ugly head.
Heroin was introduced in large quantities by some family whose name I can't remember right now.

I know the name ... am I allowed post it here ???

Yes.
It's well documented.

PrivateEye

Out and out scum, the only tragedy is that he didn't end up in a prison rotting away.

I hate when he's presented as some kind of working class hero, he's the very opposite. If, as people now believe, the bloke was involved in selling heroin- how could he be any kind of Robin Hood type hero? Heroin wrecks communities.

pondlife at best.

Terry

Oh yeah.
Wasn't the loyalist deal something to do with drugs?

Say what you will about the IRA, but they really did limit the supply and distribution in the North for many years.

Yazacoo

KINGofHEARTS wrote: »

Obviously you flicked over the part where he kept them for 12 hours and assured them they be alright and brought them several cups of tea and biscuits and made sure they were looked after.

Oh yes because when ppl are innocently imprisoned its great to have yer ol' cup of tea like!

It was funny what he did with the Vermeer.
but he was a scumbag with a flare for extravagance. No doubht about it.