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Beer guts and unfair permanent bans.

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    #62
    Pighead
    Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    jsb wrote: »
    have you searched through all pigheads comments in BGRH both undeleted and deleted? Do you actually think he is first person in feedback to give a full unbiased account of his posts? And do you read the BGRH on a regular basis to be able to say what and what isn't trolling in that forum?
    Ok first off your "Support the bring back Pighead to the bar" campaign sucks. You're not helping the case at all! Pighead demands you find a new cause.

    Secondly, the matter at hand here is the permanent ban Pighead has received because of the 3 strikes and you're out rule. Pighead contends that at least two of those were unwarranted and therefore the ban is harsh.

    And lets face it, Pighead has never been nasty or spiteful to any BGRH members. There has been some trolling along the lines of their fat bellies and hairless bonces but c'mon surely the laid back fun loving forum can handle that?


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    #63
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    that sounds horribly like a defence of "it's alright cos I was doing it".


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    #64
    CHD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    2 month ban, last chance, wrap it up imo


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    #65
    Seifer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    tbh wrote:
    I think if I send someone a personal PM, for them to publish it is beyond the pale.
    In all likelihood they won't as you'll be pming people you like or people about trivial issues. My point was that as is the case with any form of communication, be it pm or spoken word, the other person always has the right to go off and proclaim it to the world. You wave any right to privacy by telling someone else. You trust your friends won't say anything sensitive about you.
    In this case it's silly for a mod to think their banning pm's are in any way private material.


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    #66
    Dragan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    tallaght01 wrote: »
    Is he really a troll? I think he's the funniest person on boards. I don't think the fact that he grates you is a reason for a permanent ban.

    I wonder what a poll on the need for a pighead permaban would show?

    Moot point. Nothing Pighead has ever done would come close to being a permaban situation. On the whole is Pighead a troll thing, the answer is that most of the time he walks the line perfectly. Pighead is funny, entertaining and obviously pretty clever behind it all. The best thing about Pighead as a poster is that you can have a laugh with him, myself and himself have had some very nice tongue in cheek moments where we take some shots at each other because, well,it's funny!

    However, also with Pighead nothing of the real person is revealed. Everything is funny and well told as a story but mostly it is about as real as that as well.

    I would have Pighead in a grey area where you are not dealing with the real person but the person you are dealing with is hardly a bad or offensive thing.

    And Karl,

    i completely agree with you about the poll.


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    #67
    Pighead
    Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Calina wrote: »
    that sounds horribly like a defence of "it's alright cos I was doing it".
    Sounds can be quite deceiving Calina. Put a sea shell to your ear and it sounds like roar of the waves rolling onto the shore when in reality it's the shell acting as a resonator which amplifies the sound at specific frequencies, which are given by the dimension and the shape of the shell.
    Calina wrote: »
    I'm not absolutely sure I agree with this to be honest. Someone point out to me where it might be written. Otherwise, why bother with the PM route at all - let's go straight to feedback and lolcats?

    as for OP, no straight opinion other than to say this: avoiding the harsh attention of mods is not hard. I did it for years myself before becoming a mod. Lots of harsh attention => hmmm...if you were to get back into the bar, how likely is it that your behaviour would change so as to cease attracting harsh attention? I mean, I loathe banning and infracting people. It takes away time out of my life that could be better spent doing other more productive stuff like reading Feedback.
    that sounds horribly like excusing the inexcusible.


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    #68
    Winters
    Registered Users Posts: 14,761 ✭✭✭✭Winters


    I think this thread seems to be raising up some serious points ... there will be no "lolcats" from me.

    Godspeed Pighead .o>


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    #69
    token56
    Registered Users Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭token56


    This whole saga should be turned into some sort of a film.
    Pighead what actor would you like to play you?


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    #70
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Pighead wrote: »
    Sounds can be quite deceiving Calina. Put a sea shell to your ear and it sounds like roar of the waves rolling onto the shore when in reality it's the shell acting as a resonator which amplifies the sound at specific frequencies, which are given by the dimension and the shape of the shell.


    that sounds horribly like excusing the inexcusible.

    On the other hand, sounds can be extremely accurate. Put your ear next to a Formula 1 engine revving up...It sounds like a Formula 1 engine revving up.

    as for excusing the inexcusible, that's exactly what you're trying to do. I may not agree with how you got moderated but that does not divest you of responsibility for frequent low level trollery either.


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    #71
    Pighead
    Registered Users Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Calina wrote: »
    On the other hand, sounds can be extremely accurate. Put your ear next to a Formula 1 engine revving up...It sounds like a Formula 1 engine revving up.

    as for excusing the inexcusible, that's exactly what you're trying to do. I may not agree with how you got moderated but that does not divest you of responsibility for frequent low level trollery either.
    Thats fair enough Mr Calina. You are entitled to your opinion. Pighead thinks a permanent ban from BGRH was harsh, you don't. And now we shall say farewell.


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    #72
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Calina wrote: »
    On the other hand, sounds can be extremely accurate. Put your ear next to a Formula 1 engine revving up...It sounds like a Formula 1 engine revving up.

    as for excusing the inexcusible, that's exactly what you're trying to do. I may not agree with how you got moderated but that does not divest you of responsibility for frequent low level trollery either.

    Trolling is a matter of opinion.
    I wouldn't ever define it as trollery. I would say hilarity.
    Different strokes and all that, but seriously, what is your point? How is pighead attempting to excuse the inexcusable?


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    #73
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    Calina wrote: »
    On the other hand, sounds can be extremely accurate. Put your ear next to a Formula 1 engine revving up...It sounds like a Formula 1 engine revving up.

    as for excusing the inexcusible, that's exactly what you're trying to do. I may not agree with how you got moderated but that does not divest you of responsibility for frequent low level trollery either.


    What's low level trollery??


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    #74
    Marcus.Aurelius
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    I always find Pighead's posts very funny, he actually livens BGRH up, which isn't exactly easy. While some will undoubtedly find his posts trollish because they lack the sense of humour the rest of us have (i.e. perverted, twisted and sick :)).

    I vote to let the piggie back into the trough. I don't think he deserves a permaban. And for the record, I don't think Thaedydal always gets the in-jokes that are going around in BGRH. I'm a bit of a lurker, but I can still figure it out.


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    #75
    Star Lord
    Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »
    I always find Pighead's posts very funny, he actually livens BGRH up, which isn't exactly easy. While some will undoubtedly find his posts trollish because they lack the sense of humour the rest of us have (i.e. perverted, twisted and sick :)).

    I vote to let the piggie back into the trough.

    I beg to differ, I am pretty damn perverted twisted and sick... (Did I just admit to that O_O) and I find maybe 1 in 100 of pigheads posts funny, and don't recall having seen any in BGHR that weren't simply attempts to insult as many people as possible, or single users, and not a single post that fitted in with the "spirit" of BGRH. IMHO the only reason he want's back in there is so that he can try to wind people up some more.

    Low level trolling = trolling, but trying to do it at the level where it's just scraping the boundaries so that they can be pointed back at and made out differently.


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    #76
    John Mason
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »
    Seems a bit harsh alright.
    I wonder did DesF or anyone else report the post?

    No-one reported the post

    personally, i think the piggy banning stinks of bullying


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    #77
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


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    #78
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    DamoElDiablo wrote: »
    I beg to differ, I am pretty damn perverted twisted and sick... (Did I just admit to that O_O) and I find maybe 1 in 100 of pigheads posts funny, and don't recall having seen any in BGHR that weren't simply attempts to insult as many people as possible, or single users, and not a single post that fitted in with the "spirit" of BGRH. IMHO the only reason he want's back in there is so that he can try to wind people up some more.

    Low level trolling = trolling, but trying to do it at the level where it's just scraping the boundaries so that they can be pointed back at and made out differently.

    Why do you think people keep voting him back in so?


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    #79
    Marcus.Aurelius
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    DamoElDiablo wrote: »
    I beg to differ, I am pretty damn perverted twisted and sick... (Did I just admit to that O_O) and I find maybe 1 in 100 of pigheads posts funny, and don't recall having seen any in BGHR that weren't simply attempts to insult as many people as possible, or single users, and not a single post that fitted in with the "spirit" of BGRH. IMHO the only reason he want's back in there is so that he can try to wind people up some more.

    Exactly my point, I think the brand of "humour" in BGRH is very different because of the male slant on virtually all the posts there.
    Low level trolling = trolling, but trying to do it at the level where it's just scraping the boundaries so that they can be pointed back at and made out differently.

    I agree with that in principle, but trolling is hard to define, a lot of people just jump in and out of forums posting slightly relevant material. Look at AH or again, BGRH. A troll is someone is is just out to get a reaction. At least Pighead's posts are unusually well-written and well presented for a good laugh. I wouldn't ever put him in the same league as the 'tards in the prison forum.


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    #80
    _blank_
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    Marcus.Aurelius wrote: »
    And for the record, I don't think Thaedydal always gets the in-jokes that are going around in BGRH. I'm a bit of a lurker, but I can still figure it out.

    I think you are wrong in that for a start.

    Pighead, are there ANY posts in BGRH, which you made, but which have since been deleted, which you could have been banned for?

    Remember this.

    Mods of the forum, the Rec CMod (WWM), SMods and Admin can still see deleted posts.


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    #81
    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    jsb wrote: »
    <unnessecery crap>

    So if a thread isnt going the way you want you think posting funny pics will sort it? Just like TD did when he replied?


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    #82
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Pighead is the most distinctive and hilarious poster on Boards. His post are a pleasure to read.
    Personally I'd question the sensitivity of anyone who takes him seriously, particularly in a supposed "tongue-in-cheek" forum like BGRH, but I guess that says more about the direction the forum has moved in than the poster.

    The bad appears to be unfair, but I doubt my pointing that out will do anything constructive to resolve that. Pighead, I can understand your drive to sort this out, but consider this: if the ban was lifted, would the joy still be there? Would you really want to post in that forum again knowing what you now know?

    There are plenty of other forums that require your attention!


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    #83
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    Pighead wrote: »
    Ok first off your "Support the bring back Pighead to the bar" campaign sucks. You're not helping the case at all! Pighead demands you find a new cause.

    hey I am just helping bring your fans to the table I never said where I stood (ok I did I said I think a infinite number of 1 month bans should be put in place as I do think the BGRH needs you but only in small doses)


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    #84
    justsomebloke
    Registered Users Posts: 10,407 ✭✭✭✭justsomebloke


    6th wrote: »
    So if a thread isnt going the way you want you think posting funny pics will sort it? Just like TD did when he replied?

    well if you bothered answering the questions I asked of you maybe I would of gone with a serious response but you didn't and yet picked up on a later post


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    #85
    Gone West
    Registered Users Posts: 6,374 ✭✭✭Gone West


    seriously though, when a majority of users are actually siding with the feedbackee, cat pics are unwelcome and stink of childishness.

    USE YOUR WORDS man. Use your words...


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    #86
    Anti
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,401 ✭✭✭✭Anti


    irishbird wrote: »
    No-one reported the post

    personally, i think piggy banning stinks of bullying

    I dont agree with you often, but this time i do !


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    #87
    Beruthiel
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I would like the questions in my first post to be answered. ie - was he actually banned for the two comments he highlighted?

    I am aware that Piggie is one of those posters you are either going to like or not.
    However, if I were to ban for no other reason than not liking someone, we'd be down a few people at this stage....


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    #88
    _blank_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    irishbird wrote: »
    No-one reported the post
    How do you know?


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    #89
    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    I think BGRH kinda turned a corner there about 6 months ago.
    And again, with greatest respect to the brothers as I do love that forum and think it gets some great posting and great users.
    But it seems more of a private club to me.
    I dont post there much anymore, just lurk, I guess because a lot of what I would post would be largely tongue in cheek.
    Plus I ****ed up on there once, left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, like a veggie burger with side salad.


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    #90
    John Mason
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Anti wrote: »
    I dont agree with you often, but this time i do !

    i am an extremely agreeable person, so i find it strange that you wouldnt agree with me more often :confused:

    anyway, back on topic LET THE PIG BACK IN, YOU MEANIE MODS


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    6th
    Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    jsb wrote: »
    well if you bothered answering the questions I asked of you maybe I would of gone with a serious response but you didn't and yet picked up on a later post

    You mean your post where you ignored my question and just posted a few of your own? :rolleyes:


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