Big clamp down on MP3 & DVD piracy in the UK. Ireland will follow.

4Xcut

token56 wrote: »

They were talking about bringing this in before for PC's however there would be uproar if they did so I believe they backed off the idea.

More specifically, I think they were trying to bring it in for pcs with tv cards in them. Not every pc as far as I know, but i could be wrong.

OT: If the ennual fee guaranteed an amnesty on copyright prosecution i would be willing to pay considerable more than €30, perhaps even up to €200. However, there would have to be substantial legal assurances that it was what it was advertised as, not some restricted scam.

I also would wonder what the legalities of throtteling a custmers service is, when not told to do so by someone with the power of law. Bit like a bank paying money out of your account for a bill you owe without your permission(which is illegal since the bank have no legal authority to do so unless instructed by a court or some other legal institution).

Not only that, but if one company decides not to, then they can rake in a lot of customers. It would be a very foolish business decision and to be honest, letters are as far as i can see ISPs going.

CheapStuff

dont make me laugh its only those people living in the 90s who use bit torrent. Pay for music, do me a favour... Winehouse and the like can get out work for a living instead of buying crack with my 79c.

dr.bollocko

CheapStuff wrote: »

dont make me laugh its only those people living in the 90s who use bit torrent. Pay for music, do me a favour... Winehouse and the like can get out work for a living instead of buying crack with my 79c.

yow wat mate?

CheapStuff

Artists sing because they enjoy music as they are so fond of telling us in every interview they ever give. So lets make it a charity and they can work in the local chippie between song sessions. That way everyone wins, free music and the artistes do what they love doing.

Gegerty

The question is, what technology do the music industry have to track you? Are they going into every single torrent and taking down the IP addresses? This is the problem with the latest deal. They don't have to reveal their technology and don't have to prove anything. If the music industry tell the ISP you are downloading then they have to take it as fact, without any questions. So you're pretty much buggered.

Personally I don't see it working in Ireland. Our courts would tear it apart in a blink.

Gegerty

CheapStuff wrote: »

Artists sing because they enjoy music as they are so fond of telling us in every interview they ever give. So lets make it a charity and they can work in the local chippie between song sessions. That way everyone wins, free music and the artistes do what they love doing.

Exactly. And what makes the music industry so special that a single song should make so many of them millionaires?

CheapStuff

The music industry are required to the ISP with IP addresses, they cannot merely suggest you downloaded.

All the ISPs are doing is sending letters saying, which when reading between the lines say 'be discreet when getting mp3s so these music knobs will get off our case, then we can all go back to pummelling the net'

storm in a teacup brought up by the media, spin spin sugar

Gegerty

CheapStuff wrote: »

All the ISPs are doing is sending letters saying, which when reading between the lines say 'be discreet when getting mp3s so these music knobs will get off our case, then we can all go back to pummelling the net'

And how can you be discreet about it? If you're connected to a torrent that they're watching you're caught, plain and simple. You cannot hide your IP address.

CheapStuff

Who uses torrent?? only those who can't understand the alternatives.

Enuff said

Gone West

Gegerty wrote: »

And how can you be discreet about it? If you're connected to a torrent that they're watching you're caught, plain and simple. You cannot hide your IP address.

You're wrong there man.
Very easy to hide it, there are at least 3 easy ways for you to use torrents in almost absolute privacy.

CheapStuff

One question - why torrents? slow you have to share

Gegerty

FuzzyLogic wrote: »

You're wrong there man.
Very easy to hide it, there are at least 3 easy ways for you to use torrents in almost absolute privacy.

Name them. How can you communicate without an IP address?

CheapStuff

Thanks Mr S its folks like you that help the minority have a happy life. Keep on using those torrents guys

Terry

CheapStuff wrote: »

Thanks Mr S its folks like you that help the minority have a happy life. Keep on using those torrents guys

No discussion of how to avail of illegal downloads.

Gegerty

Terry wrote: »

No discussion of how to avail of illegal downloads.

At least let him explain how he is able to communicate over a network without an IP address. Although I can understand why he would want to keep it secret, technology like that would be worth billions

CheapStuff

Tel has spoken, it will remain a secret.

Terry

Mr.S wrote: »

he didn't say anything?

I deleted posts.

techdiver

I think if ISP's clamped down on this they would ruin their business. No one needs 10MB broadband to surf normal web pages. Much of the use for such speeds is torrents, plain and simple.

Gegerty

CheapStuff wrote: »

Tel has spoken, it will remain a secret.

So explain how it works without mentioning anything illegal.

CheapStuff

The industry had no part in burners only cds and dvds. The same they had no part in VHS or BetaMax...

Itunes works very well... its simply a failure to move with the times on others parts.

CheapStuff

Secure Socket Layer encrypts transactions between IPs while a person may be doing something, the content is unknown and indecipherable. All that is apparent is that there is a connection to the server.

Gegerty

Mr.S wrote: »

i assume its a program that just masks/disguises your IP

Masking does nothing, because at the end of the exchange it has to get demasked. Although you're probably right that this is probably what he is talking about, or maybe using a proxy server....ignorance is bliss I suppose!

CheapStuff

Torrent = P2P I am talking about something else that is not P2P.

Think encrypted Mail and you are on the right track.

Gegerty

CheapStuff wrote: »

Secure Socket Layer encrypts transactions between IPs while a person may be doing something, the content is unknown and indecipherable. All that is apparent is that there is a connection to the server.

Thats your secret? Happy anonymous downloading LOL

CheapStuff

I never mentioned its being mysterious or new... several companies are already offering this as a selling point for their services.

Suits me just fine. Never received a letter from an ISP and never will.

Averaging 200GB (of free stuff) per month.

Terry

CheapStuff wrote: »

Torrent = P2P I am talking about something else that is not P2P.

Think encrypted Mail and you are on the right track.

Why is it that you can't encrypt your ip address here, Slinky too?

tech77

A bit OT but does anyone know how to update Peerguardian's IP lists.
Or know a good alternative to Peerguardian?

Gegerty

CheapStuff wrote: »

Torrent = P2P I am talking about something else that is not P2P.

Think encrypted Mail and you are on the right track.

I'm not talking about p2p or torrents. I'm talking about anonymous communication over a network. You're probably talking about Usenet, its ok to say it its not illegal! And you're still not anonymous.

Gegerty

Terry wrote: »

Why is it that you can't encrypt your ip address here, Slinky too?

LOL brilliant!!

CheapStuff

Why is it that Boards cannot differentiate IPs from the same company?

MOH

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

As you are probably aware already the US authorities have access to ALL UTube files for the last five year this was even before the Viacom court case saga. The Patriot act gave them the right to access anything if they suspect terrorism, They know what UTube videos you are watching and what stuff you are interested in and have watched in the past, They can tell immediately whether you are watching videos or downloading / leaching from an illegal torrent site, These guys are not stupid.

Good for them. Hope they have fun wasting their resources keeping track of everyone in all the countries in which they have no jurisdiction.

Jumpy wrote: »

Anyone else think run to da hills posts are very uninformed? It seems from his posts that he has a specific agenda, either that or he actually believes all the sensationalism he is posting.

+1

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Technically "yes" but the authorities have ways and means around this, they can breach any privacy if they suspect "terrorism" or "child porn". They have the right to snoop through anything on your computer and can do from a remote source any time you are on line if they suspect you. What ever you think you have to block any authorities from snooping through your PC they will be one up on you.

Yes, and if they want they can plantz the evidenz even while my computer is turned off, unplugged, and buried in a lead casket at the bottom of the Atlantic. Oh noes!!

CheapStuff

Yeah not to mention the Super Hero Registration Act, no one is safe these days.

Run_to_da_hills

MOH wrote: »

Yes, and if they want they can plantz the evidenz even while my computer is turned off, unplugged, and buried in a lead casket at the bottom of the Atlantic. Oh noes!!

Provided you remove the bios battery from your motherboard

Gone West

Gegerty wrote: »

ignorance is bliss I suppose!

Ahh you might as well get clued up man.
Theres a few ways, socks proxies, VPN, tunnelling, NAT from somewhere nice, etc.

CheapStuff

no dont tell him those things, only the Illuminati should know them. We control the Fire!!!