Another judge taking the pish

mike65

If you had a scummer up before you having been charged with two vicious murders would you give him bail and then cut him even more slack as he abuses the conditions of same?

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A YOUTH charged with the murders of two Polish men was yesterday warned he was at the "last chance saloon" over whether he could continue to remain free on bail pending his trial.

David Curran (18), with addresses at Lissadel Green, Drimnagh, and Deansrath Avenue, Clondalkin, both Dublin, can remain on bail providing he engages with a specialised service dealing with self-harm -- the High Court heard he was a suicide risk.

He is charged with murdering Pawel Kalite (29) and Marius Szwajkos (27) at Benbulben Road, Drimnagh, on February 23 last.

Last Tuesday, the State applied to revoke Curran's High Court bail after gardai found him in an intoxicated state on July 4, just as a curfew he had been put under was about to start.

Part of his original bail conditions were that he was to stay out of the Dublin 12 area and observe a 10pm to 7am curfew in a sober state.

The court heard he was arrested after he was among a group of youths found drinking on a school grounds in Drimnagh at around 9.50pm.

When approached by Garda Roger Quinn, he and some of the youths ran off. The garda gave chase and managed to catch him when he fell as he was about to climb over a wall.

Following his arrest, he admitted he had taken six ecstasy tablets. While in garda custody, his condition from the effects of the drugs deteriorated and he had to be taken to hospital.

His lawyer claimed the taking of ecstasy was an attempted suicide and, as a result, a local youth worker intervened and he obtained an appointment on Wednesday to see a psychiatrist.

Strip him naked, put a jumpsuit on him and throw the tosser into a padded cell. He can bide his time there.

Mike.

arse..biscuits

I'd hang the fcuking little nacker.

Beau x1

That's disgraceful. He should be put away for life for pulling that.

FunkZ

He lives in Dublin, lock him up FFS!

Mossy Monk

A YOUTH charged with the murders of two Polish men was yesterday warned he was at the "last chance saloon" over whether he could continue to remain free on bail pending his trial.

That is a joke. As Mike says, strip him naked, put a jumpsuit on him and throw the tosser into a padded cell. I found it ridiculous that he got bail at all in the first place.

galwayrush

Hang the scumbag and jail the judge on grounds of gross stupidity.

Dyr

Dont be silly the judicial system works fine, Ive never heard a judge or barrister say otherwise :pac:

Loopy

Its actually embarrasing, imagine the polish parents of those dead guys hearing about this...

Fucking Farcical....

galwayrush

Reality, if i told the Judge he was a ****ing idiot in court, i would be behind bars.

Guy:Incognito

Why send him to a service to help him stop self harming (moreso because sayign he was trying to commit suicide by taking the ecstasy is bull) , they sould be encouraging him to do himself as much harm as possible. Hopefully culminating in him topping himself.

Or better still, chain him to a wall in a room and broadcasr 24hrs to let people watch him die. People could pay €100 to give him a few digs aswell.

hussey

i seen this yesterday, it is a very sad day for ireland.

He can take 6 tablets, and nothing will happen to him.

zero19

Yeah...Thats complete bull****, he should be locked up for life, anyone who commits murder should never see daylight again imo

mobby

I know the tablets I would like to give him.

bronte

What a joke.

ejmaztec

Like the case yesterday where a couple tried to lure some kid into a car. The guy pretended to be a Guard. The judge said that it was an appalling case. He was so fucking appalled he gave them 6 months. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Miss Fluff

ejmaztec wrote: »

Like the case yesterday where a couple tried to lure some kid into a car. The guy pretended to be a Guard. The judge said that it was an appalling case. He was so fucking appalled he gave them 6 months. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Linky?

ejmaztec

Miss Fluff wrote: »

Linky?

Sorry, too lazy then, but here it is now:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fake-gardai-jailed-for-six-months-over-teen-assault-1439768.html


Here's the first bit:

A JUDGE has described a case where a man and a woman tried to entice a 13-year-old boy into their car under the pretence that they were gardai as "one of the most disgraceful and outrageous" he has ever presided over.

the_syco

ejmaztec wrote: »

A JUDGE has described a case where a man and a woman tried to entice a 13-year-old boy into their car under the pretence that they were gardai as "one of the most disgraceful and outrageous" he has ever presided over.

It'd be LOL if the kids father, and four of his buddies "tried to entice" the scum bags "into their car under the pretence that they were" IRA. I wonder would the judge if so caring then?

ejmaztec

the_syco wrote: »

It'd be LOL if the kids father, and four of his buddies "tried to entice" the scum bags "into their car under the pretence that they were" IRA. I wonder would the judge if so caring then?

That pair will probably be out by next weekend, after getting time off for good behaviour. No doubt "someone" will be waiting outside to offer them a lift home after their ordeal.

nobodythere

Like two weeks ago in galway, two travellers, one with 176 convictions and the other with 88 warned that this time it really was their last chance. Haha 177 strikes and you're out?

tallaght01

So, this guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet, has he?

Let's hold off the hangings etc just for the time being :P

kowloon

tallaght01 wrote: »

So, this guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet, has he?

Let's hold off the hangings etc just for the time being :P

That's hardly the fun, spur of the moment, justice I crave. Down with you and your due process I say!

ojewriej

tallaght01 wrote: »

So, this guy hasn't been convicted of anything yet, has he?

He is charged with a double murder. He broke his bail conditions - he should be locked up until the trial. Simple as that.

I couldn't believe that they bought the suicide story.

It's all very ****ing dissapointing.

I read somewhere (might've even be here on boards) that scumbags with a lot of convictions have a lot of experience in playing the system, that's why they are getting away with **** again and again. Ordinary citizens on the other hand, who for some reason get into trouble, don't know how to do it and end up having the book thrown at them.

I can't understand how people with 50 + convictions, including for violent crime, are allowed back on the streets. It's just not right.

ImDave

I think it's crazy the fact that anyone accused of murder can be given bail, never mind this little ****.

Mena

Ah, finally I found a use for that Watermelon knife. be right back.

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

If you had a scummer up before you having been charged with two vicious murders would you give him bail and then cut him even more slack as he abuses the conditions of same?

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Strip him naked, put a jumpsuit on him and throw the tosser into a padded cell. He can bide his time there.

Mike.

Enter him in a knife eating contest TBH

gazzer

That judge must be the stupidest person on the planet if he believed that crap about that scummer trying to commit suicide. He was out with his mates and drinking and taking drugs. He is caught out of his bin a few minutes before his curfew starts.. yeah that really cries suicide attempt to me. The parents of those 2 polish guys must be wondering what sort of justice system we have at all.

tech77

gazzer wrote: »

That judge must be the stupidest person on the planet if he believed that crap about that scummer trying to commit suicide. He was out with his mates and drinking and taking drugs. He is caught out of his bin a few minutes before his curfew starts.. yeah that really cries suicide attempt to me. The parents of those 2 polish guys must be wondering what sort of justice system we have at all.

IIRC a couple of psychiatrists actually stated they didn't think this guy was a suicide risk at all.
This guy is completely laughing at the system.

dSTAR

Maybe he just needs a cuddle.

gixerfixer

The system favours the accused and that wont change anytime soon.

tallaght01

ojewriej wrote: »

He is charged with a double murder. He broke his bail conditions - he should be locked up until the trial. Simple as that.

.

Well, to be honest, I was mostly referring to these types of comments. Unless you think they're appropriate punishments for breaking conditions of bail?

arse..biscuits wrote: »

I'd hang the fcuking little nacker.

Beau x1 wrote: »

He should be put away for life .

galwayrush wrote: »

Hang the scumbag

Stekelly wrote: »

they sould be encouraging him to do himself as much harm as possible. Hopefully culminating in him topping himself.

Or better still, chain him to a wall in a room and broadcasr 24hrs to let people watch him die. People could pay €100 to give him a few digs aswell.

zero19 wrote: »

he should be locked up for life,

mobby wrote: »

I know the tablets I would like to give him.

lostexpectation

tallaght01 wrote: »

Well, to be honest, I was mostly referring to these types of comments. Unless you think they're appropriate punishments for breaking conditions of bail?

Originally Posted by arse..biscuits View Post
I'd hang the fcuking little nacker.
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Originally Posted by Beau x1 View Post
He should be put away for life .
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Originally Posted by galwayrush View Post
Hang the scumbag
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Originally Posted by Stekelly View Post
they sould be encouraging him to do himself as much harm as possible. Hopefully culminating in him topping himself.

Or better still, chain him to a wall in a room and broadcasr 24hrs to let people watch him die. People could pay €100 to give him a few digs aswell.
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Originally Posted by zero19 View Post
he should be locked up for life,
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Originally Posted by mobby View Post
I know the tablets I would like to give him.


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ps a person charged with two murders should never be let out on bail.

smellslikeshoes

For a crime as serious as murder I don't think Bail should even be a possibility.

galwayrush

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

For a crime as serious as murder I don't think Bail should even be a possibility.

So true.

Agamemnon

When these two pieces of vermin were arrested, the Polish community were shocked that they were given bail. They will be horrified altogether when they see the slap-on-the-wrist sentences the two scumbags will get if convicted.

the_syco

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

For a crime as serious as murder I don't think Bail should even be a possibility.

Meh. It allows you to kill the witnesses.

galwayrush

the_syco wrote: »

Meh. It allows you to kill the witnesses.

Saves the state a fortune not having them in prison.
Creates more work for the legal eagles.
Win/Win for both:rolleyes: