New Pc Spec Opinions please

Irish Gunner

Ok time to upgrade views on this from marxcomputers.ie

PC Core 2 Quad Q6600

- Intel Q6600 Core 2 Quad 2.4GHz
- MS-Tech ATX Midi Tower (black)
- 620W power supply
- 4GB DDRII RAM PC800
- Asus P5KPro So 775 Motherboard
- Radeon 3850 512MB PCIExpress Graphics
- 6channel sound, USB2, GB LAN on board
- 500GB S-ATAII Hard drive
- 20x DVD+/-RW/Dual Layer SATA DVD writer
- Logitech Cordless keyboard + optical mouse
- Nero Express,PowerDVD
Wifi PCI 20.00
Arctic Silentium 10.00
2nd 500GB S-ATAII 93.00
WinXP Home 110.00

Total cost €1188

Views please worth it or go somewhere else using it for internet and a lot of downloading and what a pretty good one with plenty of memory

techguy

That sounds like a well spec'ed machine..

What make is the RAM and powesupply??

Will you need the 1TB storage from the word go? If you wont only buy 500gb now and then when you need the second 500GB drive it will cost a lot less or you might get a 750GB or 1TB for the same price..Thats what I chose to do when building my machine a few months back..

Irish Gunner

techguy wrote: »

That sounds like a well spec'ed machine..

What make is the RAM and powesupply??

Will you need the 1TB storage from the word go? If you wont only buy 500gb now and then when you need the second 500GB drive it will cost a lot less or you might get a 750GB or 1TB for the same price..Thats what I chose to do when building my machine a few months back..

Not sure what the make of Ram and powersupply

its the last pc on the below link

http://www.marxcomputers.ie/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=PCs&cart_id=

You maybe right in relation to storage may just go for the 500gb

Shiny

Also you would be able to get a cheaper second hand copy of
windows xp from adverts.ie

Irish Gunner

Have Xp installed on current desktop and laptop dont think I can use these or can I have cd?

If not can get a copy elsewhere cough cough....

May put in order today

Anti

seems fairly over priced to me. www.komplett.ie do much cheaper deals for the same or better spec. Same with ankermann.

techguy

Would you be opposed to building your own computer?

It's not really that hard..lots of help available online.

You could price the parts on komplett.ie and hardwareversand.de

I'm sure you would get this computer for a bit less then maybe.

When I built my computer I didn't get one part of it in Ireland.

Just a thaugh.

Irish Gunner

Not to keen on building it myself and did check out Komplett & co

Have dealt with marx and they were ok and have a face fronting shop so easier to deal with

Now I would love to be able to build my own but basically just a bit lazy and would probably f it up

How much would I be saving?

Irish Gunner

From Ankermann

System: INTEL Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.67GHz
NVIDIA 9800GTX 512MB
Equipment:
- ASUS P5N-D nForce 750i SLI
- NVidia GeForce 9800GTX 512MB
- 1TB HDD SATAII Western D. 7200rpm 16MB: £ 68.00
- 4GB 800MHz RAM Kingston
- LG GH20LS 20x DVD-RW SecurDisc
- A-DIS X-Cruiser Midi-Tower: £ 0.00
- Cooler Master CPU cooler
- 600W Power | 12cm Fan
- Realtek ALC888 7.1 Audio
- Gigabit Ethernet LAN DSL Ready

MS Windows XP Home Edition SP 2 CD

£722.80+£25 delivery

About €955 so is this any better?

Sqaull20

Go with Ankermann, great site and terrific service.

I have bought 2 pc's off them before, as have many others on this site.Build quality for the prices they sell at is excellent, I got a really nice 8800gt pc off them last year for a friend and its dead quiet and all the components are of good quality.Power supply it shipped with wasnt a known brand, but it was quality and had no trouble powering, very fast 9800gx2,Q6700 even though it was only rated 500watt.

I would either go Hardwareversand and spec up a pc ( best value ) or go with Ankermann, nothing beats them for value and service imo.Overclockers uk have ok prices these days with the weak sterling, but build quality with them is rushed and flimsy.

This one from Ankermann is better, graphics card is way faster ( basically top end, can max out every game ) and cpu is brill.

€659 + €39 delivery

NVidia GeForce GTX 260 896Mb
4Go RAM DDR2 800MHz KINGSTON
MSI P43 Neo-F
SAMSUNG 500Gb
LG GH20LS 20x DVD-RW SecurDisc
7.1 Audio
Gigabit Ethernet LAN
52en1 Cardreader
Case Ankermann
CPU Coolermaster
600Watt

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=150273729795&Category=3736&_trksid=p3907.m29

Seller is a really nice guy, he will add in OS, monitor, whatever you want for a good price.

A friend of mine ordered above one on my recommendation on tuesday.He like you didnt want any hassle.

Irish Gunner

How does the spec on the Ankermann Pc compare to that of the one on Marx

Not good at distinguishing between 2 pc's and all the specs

Cheers

Sqaull20

Graphics card is like 2.5 times faster if not more.Its latest tech going for €250, while one in marx is €80 card at best.

Rest of the pc is very similar, with cpu in Ankermann being faster.

Overall its a way better gaming pc and much cheaper.

batman2000

I got this from Komlett and it cost €710 Plus Del.
You can do some customisation, depends what you want the Gfx card to do for you....


Qty SKU Description
1.00 310193 KOMPLETT Gamer i-30 Crossfire

1.00 337691 NZXT HU-001B, Black Aluminum Front
2X Blue LED Fans, Screwless design,(With
1.00 340649 Corsair Powersupply 550W Bulk, black,
ATX/EPS, 120mm fan, 4xSATA, SLI
1.00 339337 Gigabyte GA-P35T-DS3P, P35, Socket-775,
ATX, SATAII, GbLAN, DDR3, 2xPCI-Ex16
1.00 330169 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
Socket LGA775, 8MB, BOXED w/fan
1.00 324460 OCZ Platinum DDR2 PC6400 2048MB KIT,
w/two 1024MB PC6400 XTC,CL4-4-4-15, Rev2
1.00 345397 Sapphire Radeon HD 3650 512MB DDR2,
PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI-I/HDMI
1.00 355538 Samsung SpinPoint T166 HD502IJ 16MB,
F1 SATA 500GB
1.00 339196 LG DVD Drive, GDR-H20NRBB, SATA, 16x52,
Black OEM
1.00 350140 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Eng
SP1 OEM DVD 32bit

Anti

I'd deffo go with the ankerman one. Great spec for that price.

Irish Gunner

Cheers

Wont be doing any gaming online with it leave that to Ps3 etc

just want enough memory and cpu power for downloading and saving movies and music. Dont want vista will stick with windows xp

Will keep current hard drive as external driver

So I am looking for the best but at a reasonable price....don't we all

Its more then the basic I am looking for something thats wont slow me down

So any suggestions welcome

Sqaull20

If you dont want to game that changes everything.

Something zippy and quite is what you want, those graphics card in the pc's you/we have linked are all much too loud for general use imo.

What about Dell?

€567.49 delivered

Intel® Core™2 Quad Q6600 Processor (2.40GHz, 1066MHz, 8MB cache)
Genuine Windows® Vista™ Business with XP Professional installed and Vista Media - English
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
No 19" Wide Monitor
3072MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024 + 2x512]
500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?b=&c=ie&cs=iebsdt1&kc=D4X41002&l=en&m_30=143659&oc=D074119&rbc=D074119&s=bsd

batman2000

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Cheers

Wont be doing any gaming online with it leave that to Ps3 etc

just want enough memory and cpu power for downloading and saving movies and music. Dont want vista will stick with windows xp

Will keep current hard drive as external driver

So I am looking for the best but at a reasonable price....don't we all

Its more then the basic I am looking for something thats wont slow me down

So any suggestions welcome

So without the gaming aspect, a good Dell PC even with Core2Duo with 3Gb or RAM and a 320Gb HDD is plently as it's only used for downloading and movies/music. Save the money and maybe if you want to look into later getting a bigger monitor (HDMI) or Blu-Ray DVD drive. (Not sure what currently have)

Irish Gunner

Was thinking of Dell but dont they load up all PC's with Vista and I dont want Vista

Dont want a keyboard mouse speakers or monitor

Do they just do Harddrives and one with plenty of power and memory ?

jonny72

http://www.ankermann-pc.com

choose OFFERS INTEL

two PC's there perfect for you, the two topmost pc's, 329 and 449 euros respectively

(all the ones below them are generally older PC's at that 'old' prices, so don't look at them)


All you have to do is get windows XP from them + pay delivery

The only thing is you might want to add a wifi card, will still work out at about half the price of that Marx PC, for the same performance or better.

Irish Gunner

Ankermann looks good how long do they normally take to deliver

So which is better

items below is the €449 one the best whats the difference between this and those at the higher prices taking into account what I require?

http://www.ankermann-pc.com/en/

Or this one

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=150273729795&Category=3736&_trksid=p3907.m29

All that I require is a wifi card windows xp and a dvd / cd burner drive

Think I have cut it down to these 2

Opinions please

batman2000

Irish Gunner wrote: »

Was thinking of Dell but dont they load up all PC's with Vista and I dont want Vista

Dont want a keyboard mouse speakers or monitor

Do they just do Harddrives and one with plenty of power and memory ?

You can get a Dell with XP. You can also ring them if the option to remove the monitor and keyboard is not online. But in fairness, they will ship it with a keyboard because the cost of one is so smal.

As to which Ankermann is better.

The €659 is a Quad Core(4x2.66Ghz) versus the €449 for a Core2 Duo (2x3.0Ghz). But the RAM in the €449 is still 4Gb and the HDD is big at 750Gb SATAII, DVD/RW w/Lightscribe, with a damn good Gfx. As you are not using the PC for gaming the €449 seems pretty good to me.....

Irish Gunner

Has anyone got any experience with Ankermann ?

Did a google and could not see anything other than whats on their ebay store

Whats their delivery and after customer service like ?

batman2000

I have never dealt with them so I can't comment. other's comments have been positive. But if you are uneasy just buy the Dell.....

jonny72

They seem to have a good rep, keep in mind they are german which helps..

My friend ordered a PC and it arrived on time, well packaged etc.


If I was you, I'd email them, ask them to install XP on the PC for a small extra free.. try it.. it would give you the peace of mind that if they've installed the OS and that the PC is definitely working.

If you couldn't be bothered with the worry.. go for the Dell, also try their outlet site, theres a dell XPS 420 for 640 euro total (+vat, +delivery, -discount)

Irish Gunner

whats the url of the dell outlet

what about the below from marx

AMD Athlon 6000+ CPU - 144euro
Asus M3N-HD/HDMI Mother board - 134euro
2GB DDR2 800 Memory(2x 1GB) - 60euro
620W PSU - 68euro
Radeon HD3450 Graphic (entry card) - 56euro
XP Pro - 170euro
500GB Sata HDD - 80euro
W/Lan PCI 54m - 25euro
Lite On DVD-RW +/- Sata - 39euro
MS Tech ATX Case - 40eruo

Total - 816euro inc VAT

Take out xp pro go for home and maybe increase space to 750

Or just stick with Dell for peace of mind what is their url & in comparison to the above whats it like ?

would like Ankermann but just wary if something buggered up

batman2000

So Irish Gunner.....The difference in PC that you are mentioning is Marx €816, Ankerman Core2Duo€449. Ankerman QuadCore €659, Dell QuadCore €567 (Incl Del)....

The Marx PC is more expensive and is not mush different in Spec (for what you need the PC for) compared to the Dell. You can get the Dell with XP, you know they deliver generally with no problems, you know Dell have a Tech Support (not saying it's fantastic, but they have it none the less).

The Dell Outlet had PC's like the XPS420, but prices are Ex VAT and Del.
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=ie&l=en&s=dfh&~ck=betafrbsd
http://outlet.dell.com/Emea_Dfo/EuDispatcher?country=IRL&target=InventoryPage&lob_constraint=DIM

Outlet : €518 plus VAT and Del,
Inclusive of VAT+Del: Approx €676
XPS 420 (System Identifier. F50620HD)
XPS 420 Viiv E6550 Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 667MHz
320GB HD
256MB ATI Radeon 3650
DVD+/-RW (ReadWrite) 16X
19-in-1 Bluetooth Media Card Reader


So go and buy a new Dell as in Squall20 post (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56691868&postcount=16)

Irish Gunner

I know re the price its just spec as trying to distinguish...

Getting a quote and spec from Dell and will post here and its the best value with xp

Just need peoples opinion on it if I need more or less

Just waiting on the spec to be mailed and will put it up here

Irish Gunner

Views on this spec anything that I could add remove ?



Vostro™ 200 ST (D07S027) Qty 1
Intel® Core™2 Duo E8300 processor (2.83GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache), Genuine Windows® Vista™ Business with XP Professional installed and Vista Media -


Base Intel® Core™2 Duo E8300 processor (2.83GHz, 1333MHz, 6MB cache)

Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows® Vista™ Business with XP Professional installed and Vista Media - English

Memory 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [4x1024]

Keyboard Dell™ Enhanced USB Multimedia Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)

Video Card ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT 256MB

Hard Drive 640GB (2x320GB) 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive - Dual HDD Config

Mouse Dell Optical Scroll Premium Mouse

Optical Devices 16x DVD +/- RW Drive

Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio

Wireless Networking Dell 1505 Wireless-N Network PCIe Card

Shipping Documents English Documentation with UK/Irish Power Cord

Gedis Bundle Reference D07s027

Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
Standard Warranty 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day

Enhanced Service Packs 3Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
CompleteCare Declined CompleteCare

Dell System Media Kit Resource DVD - (Diagnostics & Drivers)

Promotions Hidden Option Class Free memory upgrade from 2048MB to 3072MB

Irish Gunner

ok going to go with Ankermann spec below

System: Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz
E8400 Wolfdale FSB 1333
Equipment:
- ASUS P5KPL G31 1333 ATX
- NVidia GeForce 8600GT 1024MB
- 750GB SAMSUNG SATA-2 HDD
- 4GB RAM DDR2 800MHz KINGSTON
- LG GH20 LS15 20x Multi DL DVD-RW LightScribe
- DVD-RW Samsung 18x/18x/4,0x RAM DL SH-S182A/BEBE: € 37.90
- Ankermann MidiTower Silver: € 0.00
- Coolermaster Box Cooler
- 600W PFC Switching power supply
- Realtek ALC850 6 Channel Audio
- 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN DSL ready
- 52in1 Cardreader in 3.5inch slot

MS Windows XP Home Edition SP 2 CD

WL-PCI PCI mit Antenne 108 MBit

Total price of €573.50 +€39 delivery

Going to install Photoshop, Dreamweaver u torrent, convertxtodvd maybe Nero, Also using Zone Alarm pro Eset Nod32 and Ad Aware and Ad watch
also install some codecs but other than that nothing

Opinions please

jonny72

Ankermann PC is fine, make sure you get the ENGLISH windows XP.

Just wanna compare Marx with hardwareversand..

AMD Athlon 6000+ CPU - 144euro (91 euro)
Asus M3N-HD/HDMI Mother board - 134euro (93 euro)
2GB DDR2 800 Memory(2x 1GB) - 60euro (30 euro)
620W PSU - 68euro (47 euro)
Radeon HD3450 Graphic (entry card) - 56euro (29 euro)
XP Pro - 170euro (100 )
500GB Sata HDD - 80euro (50 euro)
W/Lan PCI 54m - 25euro (15 euro)
Lite On DVD-RW +/- Sata - 39euro (25 euro)
MS Tech ATX Case - 40eruo (30 euro)

In brackets are the hardwareversand prices (some not there so they are equivalents)..

Marx = Total - 816euro inc VAT
Hardwareversand = 510 + 20 build + 30 delivery = Total - 560

I really have a grudge against highstreet PC shops, just went into one today, 8500GT graphics card, nearly 150 euros. Thats 3 times the online price. I've seen PC's advertised in the window for 999 euros that I could build online for 400.. I mean the shop itself could buy the PC online and still make a 100% profit.. they make no effort, I have no sympathy for them, I would never buy that Marx PC, total ripoff.

Moneymaker

that build looks good.