help with autism

xavierg

hello and good evening. i am writing this in hope to get some advice and hopefully gain some knowledge on this subject. i am a father of 3 and a half(expecting my fourth in november). thier ages a 7, 4, and my youngest is gonna be 2 in august.my youngest is the child in question. my partner and i are currently having him evaluated for autism. now thats where i just fall aprt. i can honestly say i am in such denial and i will not accept that my boy has this. but like i said he will be 2 and still hasnt really put words together. his vocabulary will consist of maybe 17 words. and to tell the truth they are more sounds than words. and i know he's trying cause the babbles that comeout of him its so funny. and another thing that he does is follow lines on almost everythin. he sees a straigt line like a counter and will really focus and walk it. but will break away from it quite easily. and other things that he does cancel out the traits that follow autism like greet other people.. mostly women .. he likes the ladies.! i dont know were to start or were to begin. i want to follow my partners advice and research like she is( and oh my. does she research!) i want let him be and not force him to learn. let him be a child. at his own pace. but i know the world around him me and the family dont understand why hes 2 and acts the way he does. i dont know. and advice is welcome and help willbe greatly appreciated. thank you

Oryx

Thaedydal linked to brilliant lecture on autism on another thread here, its hugely informative. I cant link to it as im on mobile right now, but you could try a search or pm thaed.

RealistSpy

Did he get the 6 in 1 or 7 in 1 shot? My sister is studing this apparently those shots could cause it but I don't know. I have a newborn at the moment and am just still introuble with rashes.

Try researching about the side effects of the shots and remembers gp sometimes aren't always right. We know our kids better than anyone else.

Nevyn

Please watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wt1IY3ffoU

Your son is only two and is being diagnosed, so firstly congratulations that if there is an issue that is has been noticed and picked up on.

Autism is a scary word, it for a lot of people conjures what was called years ago someone who is retarded. We no longer use that word.

Firstly if your child is on the Autisim spectrum ( it is a range of how effected a person is) where they are on it will mean a lot but thier status can change as they grow and learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism

Autism is a brain development disorder that impairs social interaction and communication, and causes restricted and repetitive behavior, all starting before a child is three years old. This set of signs distinguishes autism from milder autism spectrum disorders (ASD) such as Asperger syndrome.

Autism affects many parts of the brain; how this occurs is poorly understood. Parents usually notice signs in the first two years of their child's life. Early behavioral or cognitive intervention can help children gain self-care, social, and communication skills.

So Autism covers a range of things and if it is that your child is on the autism spectrum then early intervention is key and there you are blessed.

Basically a person who is on the Autism spectrum has their brain wired a bit differently, this just means they have to learn in a different way to other children, it doesn't mean they can't learn but that a way that works for them has to be found and we have come on leaps and bound in this country over the last 10 years with the supports there are out there.

The population with the highest % of children who are on the spectrum is in silicon valley in California, there is something about how the brain is wired for high end coding, problem solving ect that is connected to what is call the
non neural typical brain.

Yes dealing with any child when they are going through the terrible twos and threes is hard and even more so if the child is on the spectrum and had delayed speach and is having communication issues but they get there.

Yes for you as an adult and a parent it's a shock and a huge learning curve but it will pass and I found the more information I had the better as I learned that my kid wasn't a brat and I wasn't a crappy parent it was my kid was on the autism spectrum and we had to learn a new way of doing thing so that he could grow and thrive.

There are more parents out there then what you think, you are not alone.

http://www.autismireland.ie/listing.asp?id=4

http://www.irishhealth.com/index.html?level=4&con=307

http://www.iol.ie/~isa1/

tallaght01

RealistSpy wrote: »

Did he get the 6 in 1 or 7 in 1 shot? My sister is studing this apparently those shots could cause it .

There is absoloutely zero evidence that vaccines cause autism. People who are trying to sell you individual vaccines might tell you that there is, but there isn't.

To the OP, I've no clue what's wrong with your child, if anything, and wouldn't even hazard a guess.

I'm not sure what it is that made your kiddy get evaluated for autism, or who's doing the evaluation. But speech delay at 2 years is common enough. Autism wouldn't be toping the list of causes of speech delay. Every paediatic clinic is full of people coming in with internet printouts about various illnesses that they think their kids have.

In 99% of cases, their kids don't have the illness.

I'm not saying that your child is not ill, or is ill. I wouldn't even hazard a guess. What I'm saying is that if "research" involves trawling the net, bear in mind that the internet is full of utter rubbish, particularly in terms of medical info.

If he's 2 and he's not speaking so well, get him seen by a paediatrician. That would be my advice to you as opposed to getting him evaluated for specific illnesses that you think he might have. A paediatrician will look at all the potential causes for speech delay. They are often able to give you reassurance that there's nothing wrong, if that's the case.

All the best with it.

Nevyn

RealistSpy wrote: »

Did he get the 6 in 1 or 7 in 1 shot? My sister is studing this apparently those shots could cause it but I don't know. I have a newborn at the moment and am just still introuble with rashes.

Try researching about the side effects of the shots and remembers gp sometimes aren't always right. We know our kids better than anyone else.

Vaccine shots don't cause a child to become autistic.

xavierg

much thanks forthe info and help. i know it will be a tough and long road ahead. But i know the stress and frustration will try to get the better of me.. but like i said. i will help him and not force him. im gonna let him be a child and have fun.. like me!lol and yes it is true. the internet is full of rubbish. you cant tell whats helpful and whos right or wrong. it seems everyone wants to be the expert.

xavierg

no he hasnt recieved them yet. wife wont let him. my other two kids got them in school. now which vaccines i dont know really. shes the one with all that info. but i dont think so

Nevyn

What makes you think that your child won't have fun ?
Play and fun is learning to kids when they are that age, they learn through play and repetition that certainly doesn't change.

As for the internet being full of rubbish the you tube link is of Dr Temple Grandin who has written a lot of book on the topic and I have done an awful lot of my own researching over the last 18months from when my son was diagnosed with AS.

The Black Oil

Temple Grandin is great. The vaccine stuff is nonsense.

Try your local library for some books on ASD. 2 is quite young to be picked up if it is ASD.

madser

The vaccine link hasn't been proven, it doesn't mean its rubbish, go with the single vaccine if your worried.

Nevyn

Single vaccines hadn't be licenced for use in this country as far as my dr was able to tell me.

madser

Thaedydal wrote: »

Single vaccines hadn't be licenced for use in this country as far as my dr was able to tell me.

There are private clinics that will give the single vacines but its not easy to do.

Redpunto

If your babe has difficulties then its vital that he gets the professional services as soon as he can as the sooner he gets them the better the outcome. Take it step by step and youll get there. BTW, if he does end up needing services like speech and language or occupational therapy then chances are youll need to go private as with all public health services in Ireland are Sh*te.

xavierg

i have abit of good news. his speech is improving and my wife is teachin him how to sign for things and he's doing and catchin it so well. even his words are more clear to say. im so proud of him. just last night i said the ole budwieser wassup to him and he said it right back and all! with expression like i did.. it was a great day. thanks to all for the helpful input greatly appreciated. :):):)

run_Forrest_run

RealistSpy wrote: »

Did he get the 6 in 1 or 7 in 1 shot? My sister is studing this apparently those shots could cause it but I don't know. I have a newborn at the moment and am just still introuble with rashes.

Try researching about the side effects of the shots and remembers gp sometimes aren't always right. We know our kids better than anyone else.

quit the scare mongering! as others have said here, there is no link between these shots and autism. Perhaps you yourself should do some research before you start scaring others with inaccurate information.

madser

run_Forrest_run wrote: »

quit the scare mongering! as others have said here, there is no link between these shots and autism. Perhaps you yourself should do some research before you start scaring others with inaccurate information.

Its not scare mongering if you read Dr Wakefields reserch theres a lot to be scared of for some people, if your worried you should seek single vacine if your worried, the link has not been disproven.

Nevyn

Guys if you want to have this debate please start a new thread.

nesf

madser wrote: »

Its not scare mongering if you read Dr Wakefields reserch theres a lot to be scared of for some people, if your worried you should seek single vacine if your worried, the link has not been disproven.

*blinks*

You do know that Wakefield was charged with professional misconduct over the mess that was his research?

If you want to debate it do it here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=392 they should be able to clear up a few things there. I'd advise any interested parents to ask questions on that forum since this is something that is really important. Vaccines far outweigh the risks and honestly, having had whooping cough, I've suffered first hand what not getting them can entail.

Redpunto

xavierg wrote: »

i have abit of good news. his speech is improving and my wife is teachin him how to sign for things and he's doing and catchin it so well. even his words are more clear to say. im so proud of him. just last night i said the ole budwieser wassup to him and he said it right back and all! with expression like i did.. it was a great day. thanks to all for the helpful input greatly appreciated. :):):)

Thats brilliant,,theres a programme called the Hanen Technique which is used for young children with language problems, it basically entails simpling your sentences when speaking like, instead of "go into the hall to get you coat" say "coat in hall". ANd repeat sentences back to kid but expand it a bit, like if babe says "car", you could say "yes, a red car". Id say there should be a good bit of info on web.

mikewest

OP. We went through a period with the eldest where we couldnt understand why he wasn't talking and were thinking Autism and everything. We had him to speach therapists and hearing tests with two different GP's etc. Now we are very lucky that we live next door to one of the partners in our GP's practice and after his wife got on to him about our son he said himself that he could find nothing wrong with the childs hearing but referred him to a specialist friend of his. Within 2 minutes of the start of the first consultation the specialist said that he had fluid in his ears that was not draining properly and would need grommets in his ears. Cue small operation and rapid improvement in speech.
The point of this ramble is that his speech problems may have other causes than what you are imagining and as was pointed out to us on many occasions some kids talk later.

lostinnappies

xavierg wrote: »

hello and good evening. i am writing this in hope to get some advice and hopefully gain some knowledge on this subject. i am a father of 3 and a half(expecting my fourth in november). thier ages a 7, 4, and my youngest is gonna be 2 in august.my youngest is the child in question. my partner and i are currently having him evaluated for autism. now thats where i just fall aprt. i can honestly say i am in such denial and i will not accept that my boy has this. but like i said he will be 2 and still hasnt really put words together. his vocabulary will consist of maybe 17 words. and to tell the truth they are more sounds than words. and i know he's trying cause the babbles that comeout of him its so funny. and another thing that he does is follow lines on almost everythin. he sees a straigt line like a counter and will really focus and walk it. but will break away from it quite easily. and other things that he does cancel out the traits that follow autism like greet other people.. mostly women .. he likes the ladies.! i dont know were to start or were to begin. i want to follow my partners advice and research like she is( and oh my. does she research!) i want let him be and not force him to learn. let him be a child. at his own pace. but i know the world around him me and the family dont understand why hes 2 and acts the way he does. i dont know. and advice is welcome and help willbe greatly appreciated. thank you

have you considered dispraxia, my niece was told she had autism till they then decided it was dispraxia. This means that the messages coming fromt the brain to the rest of the body gets crossed leading to clumsiness, breathing through the nose instead of speeking, poor fine motor skills and much more. She is 3 and a half and still doesnt speek, she uses sign laguage instead, she wont be potty trained for a very long time, she is very clumsy and whenever she bangs her head she passes out.

I dont know if maybe he has a milder version of this but it would be worth while to mention it when he is evaulated.

If it is autism dont panic too much, with very early intervention (even if you have to pay for it yourself cos there isnt much support in this country and lots of waiting lists) the difference can be amazing. Literally a near normal child who occasionaly has difficulty (depending on the severity but his doesnt sound like a very sever case).

Remember, all you have to do is love your child and he will be happy