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Installing your own house alarm?

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  • 28-07-2008 4:43pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭


    I recently bought a newly built house which is wired for alarm and I got a quote for €1450 to get one fitted. It's my first house. I've never had any dealings with alarms before. The quote covered 17 windows, 3 doors and a text dialler (which I have since decided is pants). 2 panic buttons, keypad, control panel + backup battery, 2 PIR's a dummy box and the strobe box jobby.

    This seems like an insane price to me, anyone else? :eek:

    It got me thinking that I should really just install it myself. I'm sure I could manage it. Does anyone know a link for a good site for the parts or perhaps someone could pm me with a price or phone number of a company who could sell me the same.

    I'm kinda hoping I can do it myself and then pay someone to check it out for me


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    there are plenty of places to get kits, even the yale ones provide some level of protection. however you need to use a certified installer to get a cert. The Cert covers the installation of the alarm.

    Woodies have the Yale ones, you could shop around to get better prices. If you've never installed an alarm before a wired one might be a bit of a jump, I have no idea who would want to fix up someone elses alarm, it can sometimes be quicker to start from the top. So maybe a wireless unit would suit you better.

    http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=411+500001+1002982&Ntk=gensearch_003&Ntt=alarm&Ntx=

    these are some complete kits. Note you will get them at better prices, I'm not pushing CPC, just its a handy site for getting examples from. There was another site, www.diyhomealarms.com or something like that , an irish guy ran it. but i cant find the correct url.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Seems about right for HKC with text dialler. Sounds like a fairly big house. When you say 17 windows is that 17 openings??

    Stay away from the DIY stuff its a rip off & it will break your heart in the long run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    yeah the above post is spot on, I should have noted that the cost was decent enough and that DIY alarms are a curse I just thought that the wireless ones were the lesser of two evils, and i think some insurance companies have a deal recognizing the Yale ones??? is that correct?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Insurance companies only recognise systems to EN50131 & installed by PSA licenced companies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭fishdog


    I think the price is fair enough, if the work is done to a good standard.
    a text dialler (which I have since decided is pants).
    I think the text diallers are great!

    If you have electrical experience and are technically minded by all means give it a go! But it is not as easy as you think! It takes a couple to really get the hang of it.
    Woodies have the Yale ones, you could shop around to get better prices
    I would not go near these. I would go for HKC (best), Aritech or Astec(easiest to install). These unlike the Yale are made to EN50131
    Insurance companies only recognise systems to EN50131 & installed by PSA licenced companies.

    I would advise people not to inform an insurance company that you have an alarm system to avail of a discount. The reason for this is that insurance cover is null and void if you forget to turn your alarm on and you get broken into! I dont think that the small discount on the premium is worth that risk!

    Good luck with it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭limbovski


    Thanks for all the info so far guys.

    Yep 17 windows means 17 openings.

    Ouch I can't believe that's a good price :(. I've been asking a few people and most of them say their respective alarms cost much less. But if you think it is, then fair enough.

    I have zero electrical experience. I think I'll still do it myself and I'll get an electrician mate to help me.

    There's no phone line so can I still get a text dialler?

    Would anyone know where I could buy a HKC system?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    limbovski wrote: »
    Thanks for all the info so far guys.

    Yep 17 windows means 17 openings.

    Ouch I can't believe that's a good price :(. I've been asking a few people and most of them say their respective alarms cost much less. But if you think it is, then fair enough.

    I have zero electrical experience. I think I'll still do it myself and I'll get an electrician mate to help me.

    There's no phone line so can I still get a text dialler?

    Would anyone know where I could buy a HKC system?
    Most people who say thier alarmwas less probobly got it a good few years ago
    If you are paying that electrician to help you , you & him are breaking the law unless he is licenced by the PSA
    If you have no phone line you can use a text dialler with a D2M unit available from most suppliers . Costs between €300 -€400
    All good suppliers stock HKC


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭fishdog


    If you are paying that electrician to help you , you & him are breaking the law unless he is licenced by the PSA
    This is not correct. You are allowed to install an alarm in your own house without being a member of the PSA. An electrician that is not a member of the PSA is not allowed to install an alarm in your house for a fee.
    But this electrician is allowed to first fix the alarm for you and charge for this and provide free "advice" on 2nd fixing of the alarm.

    I rang the PSA in relation to this in the past, that is how I know. BTW I am not a member of the PSA.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Is that not confirming the quote you posted???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭fishdog


    Is that not confirming the quote you posted???

    Sorry, yes I see your point. I was thinking of the owner not breaking the law because it is his house and the electrician first fixing. I guess it is now too late for first fix now.


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