Keane completes Liverpool Move

GuanYin

BBC are reporting 20.3 million here

Still not sure about this move for either Keane or Liverpool but I guess time will tell. I think that Spurs have mistreated both Keane and Bent in the past so I'm not sure a lack of loyalty can be claimed.

I feel sorry for Spurs, they must have the most changing strikeforce in the EPL. They won't improve if they continue to lose their best players.

rosboy

Welcome Robbie. This will be our year!

Melion

Its on the official site aswell
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N160674080728-1837.htm

andrewie

Great signing for Liverpool. He and Torres will be some partnership.

Karmafaerie

Oh.........




.....IT'S ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dub13

andrewie wrote: »

Great signing for Liverpool. He and Torres will be some partnership.

Lets hope so,I am still not sure but only time will tell.

Mossy Monk

Over priced?

Creamy Goodness

hopefully this will give him a big boost for the world cup campaign

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Mossy Monk wrote: »

Over priced?

IF Liverpool put in a sustained title challenge, and aren't resting players for the CL in February, then yeah, it'll be a decent bit of business.

Robbie Keane is at his peak, is a regular goalscorer in the PL, and has the experience to do it for a top 4 club.

If he breaks his leg in training tomorrow, well then, it won't have been good business.

Mr Alan

World cup?! Liverpool cant play in the world cup

International thread>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.that way

from Levy:

"I was incredibly disappointed when I first heard, not only that Liverpool had been working behind the scenes to bring Robbie to Anfield, but that Robbie himself wanted to go and he submitted a transfer request to this effect.

"I have already made my opinion clear on the nature of this transaction. I don't regard it as a transfer deal - that is something which happens between two clubs when they both agree to trade - this is very much an enforced sale, for which we have agreed a sum of £19m as compensation plus a potential further £1.3m in additional compensation."

Liverpool FC has also acknowledged that the way its website reported comments of its manager, which were widely covered by the media, was inappropriate and in light of that acknowledgement has apologised and agreed to make a donation to our Club's main charity, the Tottenham Hotspur Foundation. Tottenham Hotspur has therefore agreed not to pursue its official complaint to the Premier League.

staker

rotation system will destroy him. he's a confidence player.

Running Bing

GuanYin wrote: »

BBC are reporting 20.3 million here

Still not sure about this move for either Keane or Liverpool but I guess time will tell. I think that Spurs have mistreated both Keane and Bent in the past so I'm not sure a lack of loyalty can be claimed.

I feel sorry for Spurs, they must have the most changing strikeforce in the EPL. They won't improve if they continue to lose their best players.

What the fvck do you mean mistreated?


Sorry but thats boll0x! you mean because we did not give both an automatic place and tickle their balls with feathers?



Robbie (like Bent) had to work for his place....and work he did...until he was on that pitch every week. Quality player, one of my favs. He didnt handle this situation particularly admirably but Ill still have a lot of time for Robbie.To say he was ever mistreated at Spurs is just ridiculous though.

spockety

staker wrote: »

rotation system will destroy him. he's a confidence player.

Yes, rotation has certainly destroyed the rest of Liverpool's top talent, like Torres, Gerrard, Carragher, Reina, Mascherano........

Mr Alan

staker wrote: »

rotation system will destroy him. he's a confidence player.

thank god he has moved to a club that wasnt anywhere near the top of the rotation table last season then and in actual fact only rotates positions that are up for grabs :rolleyes:

last year certain starters:carragher/hypia/arbeloa/mascherano/alonso/gerrard/torres/kuyt/reina

ill informed tripe tbh, turn off Sky NOW! :mad:

Dub13

staker wrote: »

rotation system will destroy him. he's a confidence player.

I don't think this will be the case,he has been out of the Spurs team many times and fair play to the lad he always got his head down and got back into the first 11.

Karmafaerie

Mr Alan wrote: »

World cup?! Liverpool cant play in the world cup

International thread>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.that way

from Levy:

Ha!

If they've reported Liverpool as they say, it's out of their hands.
It's up to the FA.

If Liverpool were in the wrong, donating to a charity doesn't fix that and the should be punished.
It's just we all know that Liverpool didn't tap up anyone, no matter what Levy wants to insinuate.

Melion

staker wrote: »

rotation system will destroy him. he's a confidence player.

Get out or would you care to show us all about this rotation policy

Karmafaerie

Mr Alan wrote: »

thank god he has moved to a club that wasnt anywhere near the top of the rotation table last season then and in actual fact only rotates positions that are up for grabs :rolleyes:

last year certain starters:carragher/hypia/arbeloa/mascherano/alonso/gerrard/torres/kuyt/reina

ill informed tripe tbh, turn off Sky NOW! :mad:

Yeah well..................zonal marking!!!!!!!!!!



(Just tought I'd get that out of the way!:P)

Boggles

For Irelands sake lets hope Mr. Benitez doesn't try to turn him into a winger or give him prolonged spells on the bench.

spockety

Here we go. A load of rubbish that is not against the rules to post, but is wholly inaccurate and designed purely to get a rise out of Liverpool supporters on the day of their biggest signing of the summer. Bah to you all.

I notice a few old friends returning to the Liverpool thread today, just in time.

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Request to Liverpool fans.

When your new darling has a shíte game for Ireland, and people point it out, don't take it as a slight on your club and get all hot headed about it.

zAbbo

It's great having one of your countries best ever players at your club in his prime

I'd say he's delighted to get the chance to play for the team he's supported, I'd compare it to Robbie Fowler coming back and Hartley joining Celtic.

Karmafaerie

staker wrote: »

maybe so, i'm not too well up on his stats tbh but he was a far better player before last season.. i blame rafa's selections but hey, what do i know??
i just think keane's gonna go the same way. best of luck to him, rake in the dosh.

You do remember Alonso breaking his foot at the start of last season right?

Or is it still "rotation" now when the players in hospital!!!

Mr Alan

Boggles wrote: »

For Irelands sake lets hope Mr. Benitez doesn't try to turn him into a winger or give him prolonged spells on the bench.

i actually hope to see something like

Keane

---

Gerrard

---

Babel

---

Torres

---

gerrard--alonso--mascherano--babel

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Torres

---

Keane

---

Kuyt

---

Gerrard

---

Keane

---

Torres

---

Gerrard---Keane---Babel

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Torres

---

Keane

---

Gerrard

---

Kuyt

---

Torres

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loads of possibilities no?:D

Karmafaerie

zAbbo wrote: »

It's great having one of your countries best ever players at your club in his prime

I'd say he's delighted to get the chance to play for the team he's supported, I'd compare it to Robbie Fowler coming back and Hartley joining Celtic.

Hartley maybe, but I almost cried when the prodigal God came home!:D

spockety

Des wrote: »

Request to Liverpool fans.

When your new darling has a shíte game for Ireland, and people point it out, don't take it as a slight on your club and get all hot headed about it.

Sounds like a fair request.

Here's one for non Liverpool fans. Before Keane has even kicked a ball for Liverpool, can we not re-hash the same old Benitez/Rotation/OutOfPosition/OneBillionDollars debates? Especially if you're gonna post without checking the most basic of facts (Alonso/Rotation??).

PHB

The Alonso discussion is in a new thread. Let's keep it there.

spockety

Statement from Keane:

'I would like to place on record my thanks to the board, players and fans of Tottenham for the past six years, which were the best and most enjoyable of my career to date.

'I will never forget them. I would specifically like to thank chairman Daniel Levy for understanding, that, as a fan, joining Liverpool is a lifelong dream of mine and one I couldn't let pass me by.

'I hope one day the Spurs fans, who have been brilliant to me, can understand this too.

'I have only good things to say about my time at Tottenham and expect them to go from strength to strength under Juande Ramos and Daniel Levy.'

staker

i'm not intentionally goading or anything but that is my opinion, i do think keane will disappoint. that's my 2cents

Melion

Des wrote: »

Request to Liverpool fans.

When your new darling has a shíte game for Ireland, and people point it out, don't take it as a slight on your club and get all hot headed about it.

I'll still hate him for Ireland, dont worry about that.

Mr.Nice Guy

Might be a tad over priced alright but that seems to be the way the market is these days. I think he might struggle at first but I can see him getting goals eventually.

Damien Duff's old transfer record as the most expensive Irish player has been broken anyway. :cool:

HashSlinging

keane AND finnan now playing4 LFC . Hopefully this will pave the way for more.

zAbbo

Just wanted to add that while Spurs fans might face the prospect of both their strikers leaving for clubs above them, in Juande Ramos they have a master in rebuilding a team.

Running Bing

Karmafaerie wrote: »

Ha!

If they've reported Liverpool as they say, it's out of their hands.
It's up to the FA.

If Liverpool were in the wrong, donating to a charity doesn't fix that and the should be punished.
It's just we all know that Liverpool didn't tap up anyone, no matter what Levy wants to insinuate.

If they did nothing wrong why would they apologise and pay money to a Spurs charity?

And whose to say the FA dont feel this is a satisfactory settlement?

spockety

staker wrote: »

i'm not intentionally goading or anything but that is my opinion, i do think keane will disappoint. that's my 2cents

Unless you can provide us with anything substantial to back up your opinion, then yes, you are goading.

Given that Keane has been a top striker in the PL for the last 3 years, what do you offer us to suggest that he is going to disappoint when surrounded with even more talented service?

PHB

And now he has a bit of money to play around with. IMO this is a good deal for Spurs too. They need young talent to develop to higher levels if they want to ever challenge. 19 million on a 28 year old player no matter how good is good for that sort of club.

PHB

spockety wrote: »

Unless you can provide us with anything substantial to back up your opinion, then yes, you are goading.

Given that Keane has been a top striker in the PL for the last 3 years, what do you offer us to suggest that he is going to disappoint when surrounded with even more talented service?

No he's not. He's giving an opinion without anything to back it up. Unless you think this post

Great signing for Liverpool. He and Torres will be some partnership.

is goading, I suggest you just respond to the post instead of calling it something.

happydayz182

Its funny how spurs end up significantly strengthening a team that they realisticly aim to challenge for a top 4 spot but make such a big deal of avoiding selling berbatov to man utd....they hardly expect to challenge for the title do they?

Ah well...this is keanes defining move and will either make him or break him in terms of what hes thought of after he retires...one of irelands greatest ever or just very good..Il think he wont score as much as he did at spurs but still link up wit torres well..

Karmafaerie

Babybing wrote: »

If they did nothing wrong why would they apologise and pay money to a Spurs charity?

And whose to say the FA dont feel this is a satisfactory settlement?

So I shoot you, your family think that a box of roses make up for it, so the Gardai don't arrest me?!
No.
If Tottenham reported Liverpool, then the FA have to look into it.
Tapping up is something that they've spent the last two years tring to stop!

Liverpool admitted that Rafa could have been wrong for saying that he was interested in Keane (not against the rules).
The made a donation to make up for that.
Levy is implying still that Liverpool tapped Robbie up, which he can't back up, cause it didn't happen.

Liverpool broke no rules, Liverpool never appoligised for breaking rules because the didn't!
But Levy is implying that Liverpool are admitting guilt.

I'll say one thing, he's great with the spin.
he has all the Spurs fans believing the gospel according to Levy!

Mr.Nice Guy

I wonder who Spurs will get to replace him. Is Pavlyuchenko still in Spurs' thoughts? I'd love to see the Pavster in the Premiership.

Karmafaerie

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I wonder who Spurs will get to replace him. Is Pavlyuchenko still in Spurs' thoughts? I'd love to see the Pavster in the Premiership.

He'd do well.

zAbbo

PHB wrote: »

And now he has a bit of money to play around with. IMO this is a good deal for Spurs too. They need young talent to develop to higher levels if they want to ever challenge. 19 million on a 28 year old player no matter how good is good for that sort of club.

Yeah, but I think Ramos has always had a good mix of experience, I'd say he didn't bank on losing Keane this summer though.

Ruskie4Rent

Can't help but think this is a good deal for liverpool, despite the price. I'm sure he'll fit in well.

Melion

PHB wrote: »

No he's not. He's giving an opinion without anything to back it up. Unless you think this post



is goading, I suggest you just respond to the post instead of calling it something.

Huh?

DeadSkin

Great to see the deal is done & dusted. I'm really lookin' forward to seeing Robbie play in the red shirt.

I have one slight concern :eek: :pac:

1. According to his page on Bebo.com Robbie loves listening to music and picks out Blink 182, Robbie Williams, Ronan Keating and Eminem as some of his favourite artists.

Source

spockety

PHB wrote: »

No he's not. He's giving an opinion without anything to back it up. Unless you think this post



is goading, I suggest you just respond to the post instead of calling it something.

You're comparing a post that could not possibly offend anybody at all (not even by a Liverpool supporter!), with the last in a line of posts from someone who came in blabbing with what has been shown and admitted to be absolute nonsense.

But yes, I think that even if someone has something positive to say, they should back it up. There has been plenty of things posted to suggest that Keane will be a good player for Liverpool.

I don't know if he will, I stated in another thread that we won't really know if he has been worth it until 2 years have passed.

darkskol

Delighted keane has finally moved to Liverpool, cant wait to see him play next season (maybe even tomorrow!).

eZe^

zAbbo wrote: »

Just wanted to add that while Spurs fans might face the prospect of both their strikers leaving for clubs above them, in Juande Ramos they have a master in rebuilding a team.

Not necessarily true. Juande Ramos is a fantastic coach, and will always get the best out of players, he can quite easily make a star out of raw talent. There are two things in my mind that may cause him to be less effective at rebuilding a team in England, as opposed to when he was at Seville, where he replaced their best stars every year with people who were in most of cases even better.... (Please make sure you don't interpret this as me saying he WON'T rebuild the team, I'm just saying there are more obstacles for him to overcome now that he is managing in the EPL)

The first is, transfers are different in La Liga when compared to the EPL. Since you are all fans of the EPL, you probably think transfers are basically controlled by the manager at the club. However, the manager isn't the one who has the final say when a club is deciding who or who not to purchase in La Liga. Ultimately it's a combination of the President, and the Director of Football who control the transfers. Sure the manager consults, but it's kind of like, the manager gives a shortlist of 10 players to the President, and then the President will negotiate to sign 2/3 of the players in that list. Sometimes in cases it may mean that a player the president dislikes on the list may not even be contacted, despite the manager thinking he is a potential signing.

Ok, what has this got to do with Sevilla and Juande Ramos you say? Well, basically, you say that Ramos is a 'master at rebuilding teams'. I'd almost say it was more down to their president, Del Nido. He has signed so many good players for the club, and selling them for massive profits in all cases, including Dani Alves, Reyes(youth product I know), Adriano, Kanoute, Fabiano, Keita, Escude, Baptista, and Poulsen in the past couple of seasons. Just look at the Alves signing, he bought the boy for about €500,000, and has sold him for €35,000,000. He is probably the best president in the transfer department that I have been alive for, Arsene Wenger good. Never lets players go without making sh*t loads of money from it.

So yes, without Del Nido, I personally think Ramos will have a HARDER time rebuilding a squad. One things for sure though, he will always get the best out of his players, and if they make a couple of more shrewd signings, maybe he will rebuild the team as well has he did at Sevilla.

The second thing that would contribute to Ramos' successful rebuilding sagas at Sevilla was its youth system. Sevilla in the past couple of years have come out with some amazing youth players that have slotted in perfectly with the first team. Players including the likes of Reyes, Ramos, Navas and Capel... Will he get this injection of youth from Tottenhams academy? Only time will tell.


Anyway, this post was completely off topic, but I really like Juande Ramos, my favourite coach in the EPL. I really hope he succeeds in his time there and moves Spurs on to alot of future success. Maybe the points I have brought up will become completely irrelevant if he signs someone like David Villa, and harnesses the potential in players like Dos Santos.

Apologies for the off topic post. Best of luck to Robbie in his future endeavours with LFC...

GuanYin

Babybing wrote: »

What the fvck do you mean mistreated?

Sorry but thats boll0x! you mean because we did not give both an automatic place and tickle their balls with feathers?

Robbie (like Bent) had to work for his place....and work he did...until he was on that pitch every week. Quality player, one of my favs. He didnt handle this situation particularly admirably but Ill still have a lot of time for Robbie.To say he was ever mistreated at Spurs is just ridiculous though.

Calm down.

Spurs handled Keane quite poorly 2-3 seasons ago. They disregarded his form and continued to alternate him with Defoe as Mido's partner to the point that they player is reported to have discussed leaving.

Then, as he formed a partnership with Berbatov, with Defoe already there, they then brought in a substandard striker (Bent) and claimed that Keane would need to fight to keep his place. Keane is a professional striker who had just finished an excellent season, I think it was embarassing to see a club say that to him.

If I were of Keane's standard and saw the club pull that move, I wouldn't be thinking about staying at the club.

Spurs have not had a consistant strikeforce in years, losing Mido, Defoe, now Keane and soon Berbatov. Look at the other clubs and see how they manage their strikers, do you think Torres as been told that he will have to fight to keep his place this season?

happydayz182

But surely its a given Keane has/had to fight for his place?? I think all the competition for places improved his consistency in staying in top form...he would have known had he taken his foot off the gas spurs had other options..

its the same at liverpool ...keane will have to fight for his place...i dont think that counts as being mistreated...i do however agree that when keane was in form a few seasons back defoe was sometimes randomly choosen ahead for no apparent good reason but he obviously managed to keep his place in the long run

GuanYin

happydayz182 wrote: »

But surely its a given Keane has/had to fight for his place?? I think all the competition for places improved his consistency in staying in top form...he would have known had he taken his foot off the gas spurs had other options..

its the same at liverpool ...keane will have to fight for his place...i dont think that counts as being mistreated...i do however agree that when keane was in form a few seasons back defoe was sometimes randomly choosen ahead for no apparent good reason but he obviously managed to keep his place in the long run

Competition for places is important and sensible, it is a given. Publicly discussing Keane's position, when he is their most consistant forward in the squad is not sensible. This is what Spurs did with Mido and again with Bent.

Had Keane dropped form, I'd understand. He hadn't dropped form, he was scoring from the bench, where he should not have been to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still not a great fan of Keane, but I remember thinking Spurs were ludicrous with their PR in relation to Keane.

Can you see Ferguson saying to the media that Rooney or Tevez needs to prove themselves worthy of their places?