Vectra - change timing belt, how many kms ?

Morrisseeee

Whats the recommended milage/kilometer-age before I change the timing belt ? Opel Vectra 2006.

Morrisseeee

bump..............
anybody?

Lucifer

You need to be a bit more specific, what engine is in it?

Morrisseeee

Ah yes, i knew i had forgotteen something, 1.6 petrol.

Lucifer

In a 06 model that would be a Z16XEP engine. The interval is 90,000kms or 5/6 years, not 100% on the years, would have to check and let you know tomorrow.

bazz26

Opel reduced the timing belt change interval on their cars a few years ago to about 40k miles afaik as there were reports of premature snaps, not sure if it was across the entire range or not though. Best thing to do is ring one or two Opel dealers and ask them if you don't have the manual.

To be honest if the car has anything near or above 40k miles I would get it changed rather than risk it. A new timing belt is alot cheaper than a new engine at the end of the day.

stratos

I saw an interesting idea for diy belt change, take a sharp knife and cut the belt in half lenghtways turning the engine by hand. Remove the outer half of the belt. Slip the new belt over the sprockets half way, then cut away the inner portion of the old belt. Then slide the new belt fully onto the sprockets. It sounds like a good idea not sure if it would be fully practical though. anyone tried it ?

Lucifer

The x14xe and z14xe engines in the astra g are 40,000 miles or 4 years.
The newer model astra is a z14xep which has a timing chain.

The x16xe and x18xe engines maybe 40,000 miles or 60,000, ill check. The z16xe and z18xe engines are 60,000 miles and 5/6 years

The z16xep and z18xep engines are 90,000 km, just not sure if it is 5/6 years.

I am a mechanic in an opel dealer so can confirm that this is correct but just to be 100% I will check our computer in work tomorrow and post back with a correct time as well as mileage.



As for cutting the belt, and sliding the new one on, in theory, yes it would work, the timing should stay the same, but I would not reccomend it for 2 reasons.
1- for alot of engines, it is recommended to replace the tensioner when replacing the belt (most opels - you replace the tensioner, pulleys and water pump) so to do this it would be necessary to remove the belt. Even if it is not recommended to replace them you should still feel them to make sure the rotate smoothly and there is no play in them.
2- All of the above aside, all belts will never be exactly the same size and will also stretch slightly with age so it is necessary to set the tension correctly when you fit the new belt.

Morrisseeee

many thanks lucifer......
Q. Have you seen the new Vectra (Insignia) yet ? ie. has one arrived in Ireland yet ? They look nice....

kluivert

Check your owners manual

Morrisseeee

Check your owners manual

I would if I could but I can't......doh !

furtzy

Morrisseeee wrote: »

many thanks lucifer......
Q. Have you seen the new Vectra (Insignia) yet ? ie. has one arrived in Ireland yet ? They look nice....

Was at the lauch over at the motor show in London. They are very nice in the flesh. The interior is very nice indeed. Only criticism is the rear head room in the hatch back. The C pillar obstructs you getting in or out of the back seat.

Judgeing by the crowds around them i think they're are on to a winner

Lucifer

hi, havnt seen one yet, only pictures so far.

I checked the belt interval for all the various engines and printed it out but had to leave work early in a rush and forgot to bring it with me so i will have it tomorrow. The z16xep is 54,000 miles or 90,000km and is more than 6 years, think it was 8 or 10! Its long I know, but I only looked at it for a second so I will confirm tomorrow and post the intervals for the other engines also.

manta mad

yep !!! change timeing belts, tensioner, pulleys and water pump at 40,000 miles ,
on every opel !

i was also at the london motor show , as a guest of opel to see the new insignia

it was very well recieved by the public ,its a huge improvement over the vectra & will do very well . a few pics of the opel insignia

Lucifer

manta mad wrote: »

yep !!! change timeing belts, tensioner, pulleys and water pump at 40,000 miles ,
on every opel !

Trust me, its not 40,000 miles on every opel, as I have said, its 40,000 for some. Most of the new engines are not 40,000. The OPs engine is 54,000 miles or 90,000km.

I will post a list of the correct mileage and time for all of the other engines tomorrow.

Lucifer

Ok, I have to admit I was wrong about saying the OP's engine was 90,000kms, its actually longer.

From 2003 onwards (engine - kms - years)

Z16XE - 90,000 - 6
Z16SE - 120,000 - 8
Z16XEP - 150,000 - 10 (OP's Engine)
Z18XE - 90,000 - 6
Z20LET - 60,000 - 4
Z20LEL - 90,000 - 6
Y26SE - 120,000 - 8
Z32SE - 120,000 - 8
Y17DTL - 150,000 - 10
Z17DTH - 100,000 - 10
Z19DT - 120,000 - 6
Z19DTH - 150,000 - 10
Y30DT - 150,000 - 10

If anyone has any questions or wants me to check a specific car/engine let me know

furtzy

Lucifer wrote: »

Ok, I have to admit I was wrong about saying the OP's engine was 90,000kms, its actually longer.

From 2003 onwards (engine - kms - years)

Z16XE - 90,000 - 6
Z16SE - 120,000 - 8
Z16XEP - 150,000 - 10 (OP's Engine)
Z18XE - 90,000 - 6
Z20LET - 60,000 - 4
Z20LEL - 90,000 - 6
Y26SE - 120,000 - 8
Z32SE - 120,000 - 8
Y17DTL - 150,000 - 10
Z17DTH - 100,000 - 10
Z19DT - 120,000 - 6
Z19DTH - 150,000 - 10
Y30DT - 150,000 - 10

If anyone has any questions or wants me to check a specific car/engine let me know

Mine is the 1.9 CDTi 150 which I presume is the Z19DTH and I was told it was advisable to change it at 80k. This is the concensus over at the vectra c owners club by Vauxhall mechanics. was planning to do it at my next service which is due at 78k....don't know whether to do it now...any advise?

Lucifer

Well as lots of people are saying, prevention is better than cure, but from looking at this personally I wouldnt be doing it yet, unless you drive the car very very hard.

Looking at the info i have here, the 2001-2002 Y17DTL engine (1.7diesel) is also 150,000km or 10 years, compared to most of the petrols of that age being 60,000km so its not a new thing for the diesels to have such a long belt life. If you like I will talk to a few of the lads in work tomorrow and confirm that these are all correct but I am pretty sure they are as I printed this info from our computer in work which is updated regularly by opel so would have the most up to date info.

EDIT by the way, yes yours would be a Z19DTH, and you say the vauxhall mechanics said 80k, is that 80k miles or 80k kms? the uk still deal in miles so this would be 128,000 kms.

furtzy

Lucifer wrote: »

Well as lots of people are saying, prevention is better than cure, but from looking at this personally I wouldnt be doing it yet, unless you drive the car very very hard.

Looking at the info i have here, the 2001-2002 Y17DTL engine (1.7diesel) is also 150,000km or 10 years, compared to most of the petrols of that age being 60,000km so its not a new thing for the diesels to have such a long belt life. If you like I will talk to a few of the lads in work tomorrow and confirm that these are all correct but I am pretty sure they are as I printed this info from our computer in work which is updated regularly by opel so would have the most up to date info.

EDIT by the way, yes yours would be a Z19DTH, and you say the vauxhall mechanics said 80k, is that 80k miles or 80k kms? the uk still deal in miles so this would be 128,000 kms.

They were saying around 50k miles so its 80k klms. Most of them even go as far to say 40k miles. I'm stuck in traffic a lot so 80k for me wouldn't be the same as 80k for someone else flying up and down motorways all day long. I suppose you have to factor that in as well since the belt, pulleys etc are moving even if you're stuck in traffic. Think I'll play it safe and get it done. would be good if you could check with the other guys.....thanks

furtzy

General concensus on the vectra c owners club is 40k miles or every 4 years without exception on every model. They say anything over that is a gamble. I trust what they say as theres not much they don't know about this model.....must book mine in then!

Run_to_da_hills

stratos wrote: »

I saw an interesting idea for diy belt change, take a sharp knife and cut the belt in half lenghtways turning the engine by hand. Remove the outer half of the belt. Slip the new belt over the sprockets half way, then cut away the inner portion of the old belt. Then slide the new belt fully onto the sprockets. It sounds like a good idea not sure if it would be fully practical though. anyone tried it ?

That’s a lazy way of doing it and many back street garages will do it this way, another trick is to use tipex marks on the old belt against pinions and then mark the new belt accordingly without subsequently replacing the pinions. These are old tricks and not recommended. By doing it this lazy way you over see any damage or wear to the water pump, pinions and tensioner. There is only one way of doing the job right and that is by booking it into your main Opal dealer at the specified time.

Rowley Birkin QC

Just had mine done on a Vectra B, €380 from a local independent (150 labour, 230 parts that I sourced myself).

58,000km since last change.:o


Going out to it right now to service it, €57 for plugs, air, oil and fuel filter and a bottle of Redex.

voteforpedro

Does any one know if a 2005 2.0 sri vectra has a chain or belt? and at what interval it should be changed

Pedro

Jenna69

Lucifer wrote: »

Ok, I have to admit I was wrong about saying the OP's engine was 90,000kms, its actually longer.

From 2003 onwards (engine - kms - years)

Z16XE - 90,000 - 6
Z16SE - 120,000 - 8
Z16XEP - 150,000 - 10 (OP's Engine)
Z18XE - 90,000 - 6
Z20LET - 60,000 - 4
Z20LEL - 90,000 - 6
Y26SE - 120,000 - 8
Z32SE - 120,000 - 8
Y17DTL - 150,000 - 10
Z17DTH - 100,000 - 10
Z19DT - 120,000 - 6
Z19DTH - 150,000 - 10
Y30DT - 150,000 - 10

If anyone has any questions or wants me to check a specific car/engine let me know

Hi Lucifer

I just bought a 2001 Renault Clio 1.2 and there's 56000miles on the clock. Can you tell me when the timing belt needs to be changed. Jenna