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Nightclub refuses fat girls

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    I'm fat and I don't consume "huge amounts" of food. Plus we're already paying tax for Minister trips on helicopters a 10 minute drive away, so er.... cut the crap about "tax payers". You know full well that wasn't the issue here. It's just a forum for [the majority of] men to behave like ill mannered pigs, most of which aren't any oil paintings by any standards I'm sure. Anyway. Straying off topic now. Apologies Mods.

    I should have been clearer. Too much of the WRONG foods. Foods the fat tax would target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I'm fat and I don't consume "huge amounts" of food..

    Why are ther no overweight ppl ina famine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    I'm fat and I don't consume "huge amounts" of food. Plus we're already paying tax for Minister trips on helicopters a 10 minute drive away, so er.... cut the crap about "tax payers". You know full well that wasn't the issue here. It's just a forum for [the majority of] men to behave like ill mannered pigs, most of which aren't any oil paintings by any standards I'm sure. Anyway. Straying off topic now. Apologies Mods.

    I agree that some guys on here are being ill-mannered pigs but I think (hope) a lot of it is tongue in cheek. Otherwise they'd wanna be fairly hot....

    But you can't take comments on here personally. Don't let them upset you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Nicely put pookie. I'd say some of them are not having a laugh and just being obnoxious but it is only because they have the luxury of anonymity. And yes, I doubt they're as hot as they think putting down others makes them seem.

    snyper, that comment is irrelevant. Why are there no fat people in an advanced aerobics class? And they eat.

    Keep it on-topic - this is about that nightclub in Jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    snyper wrote: »
    Why are ther no overweight ppl ina famine?

    Come on, there are sometimes other reasons for people being overweight: thyroid/health problems, medication etc. But for those who inflict it upon themselves with fatty foods, a fat tax would cover the health costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    i smell a new thread....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    I presume you mean the strain that is also supported by drinking, drugs, smokers? So you're telling me you're a fighting fit slim non - smoker and non - drinker? Your blood pressure, cholesterol etc are all at the "healthy" recommendations?

    Wow, fair play to ya if you are :)

    I'm not overweight, excercise regularly, gave up smoking at christmas, try to eat healthily, have normal bp and cholesterol levels. I do drink alcohol, but not to the extent that it will give me any future health problems. But that's all beside the point. No one goes around saying its healthy to smoke or do abuse illegal drugs or alcohol.

    The point is that being overweight is unhealthy and has consequences. These consequences can and do effect others. Therefore I strongly object to the message that 'its ok to be overweight' spouted by sections of the media and some people in this thread.

    For the record, I'm not suggesting that everyone needs to be a size zero or whatever. I've seen the consequences of anorexia up close and it is not pretty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Also, I'd like to add that I'm not attempting to make fun of anyone or belittle anyone. I'm in no way physically perfect - I'm an ugly motherf*cker in real life. I'm sorry if anyone is offended by anything I said, but I stand over it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Unless the foundations were weak, I see no reason to ban those girls on account of their extra pounds. It's a disgrace in my view.

    What's next, bathroom scales outside the nightclub doors? They should sue the feckers.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    I actually like women with a fuller figure... never saw the size zero attraction myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    Wreck wrote: »
    This is just not true. Obesity is a massive problem already, and all the studies show that it is on the increase already. This is and will continue to put a huge strain on our already underperforming health service and cost millions and millions of tax payers money. At least smokers provide extra revenue in terms of tax on cigarettes.

    In the UK there are no tax on cakes and biscuits, otherwise the tax revenue would be bulging ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    I for one support this nightclubs decision, freedom of speech being expressed here and also a kick in the craw of the obesity that has engorged this country! Also as Glen Quagmire said, "Fat chicks need love too, but they have to pay!" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I wonder did they provide a bin liner full of popcorn for them in the alleyway?!

    -c- Cinema Manager in The Simpsons.


    Strange how the manager said he received complaints from customers about them, were the regulars dissapointed that the WAGS werent arriving its Jersey FFS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭AFC_1903


    I've 2 friends over 25 stone, for medical reasons, and another one who probably is about the same. One is one o my best mates, and I (10+1/2 stone) eat about twice what he does...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    AFC_1903 wrote: »
    One is one o my best mates, and I (10+1/2 stone) eat about twice what he does...

    I doubt that very much, unless you are some kind of Iron Man

    In my view, simple science if you consume more calories than your burn = weight gain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Red Alert wrote: »
    I actually like women with a fuller figure... never saw the size zero attraction myself.

    Big difference between a 'fuller figure' and a fat mess tbh, and that's what most people are saying is wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    hussey wrote: »
    I doubt that very much, unless you are some kind of Iron Man

    In my view, simple science if you consume more calories than your burn = weight gain.
    I'd agree in general - but there ARE those prone to excessive weight gain due to a medical condition. It's not true that there's only one reason - most of the time that one reason is applicable all right, but there are genuine exceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'd agree in general - but there ARE those prone to excessive weight gain due to a medical condition. It's not true that there's only one reason - most of the time that one reason is applicable all right, but there are genuine exceptions.

    I agree. But I seriously doubt the poster eats twice as much as his 25stone friend. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'd agree in general - but there ARE those prone to excessive weight gain due to a medical condition. It's not true that there's only one reason - most of the time that one reason is applicable all right, but there are genuine exceptions.

    But they're in the almost irrelevant minority. Things like kidney failure, liver cirrhosis and lymphatic problems usually cause the person much more pain than just weight gain and when they're (hopefully) fully recovered, there's no reason any excess weight shouldn't be lost through good diet and regular exercise. Other conditions such as Cushing's disease are so rare that they're not really worth considering in this debate.

    It always amazes me how quickly the issue of 'medical conditions' comes up when discussing obesity, as if a significant proportion of obese people were overweight not because of their lifestyle but because of a mysterious, uncontrollable illness. The fact of the matter is that if you're obese, it's almost certainly because you're overeating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Email doing the rounds at the moment but it says that the incident happened in Copper Face Jacks. Not bloody likely!! They've have to turn away most of their customers if that was the case!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Dudess wrote: »
    I'd agree in general - but there ARE those prone to excessive weight gain due to a medical condition. It's not true that there's only one reason - most of the time that one reason is applicable all right, but there are genuine exceptions.
    Homer wrote:
    I'm not fat, it's glandular!

    Trouble is through, the "medical anomoly" line, along with the "real woman with curves" line is trotted out so often that it's lost it's credibility when used by the (relatively) few genuine cases.

    The reality is masses of obese (often morbidly so) people, in complete denial of the simple reasons for their condition:
    (a) diet of crappy food
    (b) little or no exercise to counteract (a) even a little
    (c) complete denial


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    Duckjob wrote: »
    Trouble is through, the "medical anomoly" line, along with the "real woman with curves" line is trotted out so often that it's lost it's credibility when used by the (relatively) few genuine cases.

    The reality is masses of obese (often morbidly so) people, in complete denial of the simple reasons for their condition:
    (a) diet of crappy food
    (b) little or no exercise to counteract (a) even a little
    (c) complete denial
    Too ****ing right. I hate when people start making up excuses for their weight. I was three stone over weight a while back. I was putting on weight because I was eating crap in big portions and not exercising enough.

    I started eating properly and exercised more and I lost the three stone within two months. Its not hard to lose weight, and its actually harder to put on weight if you're relatively active.

    I know everybody is different and that there are medical conditions out there that make it hard for people to lose weight or maintain a weight that is healthy for themselves, but surely this only affects a small minority of the population and not 50% of people in a night club for example.

    Most fat/obese people are just LAZY. Simple as that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 757 ✭✭✭milod


    Duckjob wrote: »
    Trouble is through, the "medical anomoly" line, along with the "real woman with curves" line is trotted out so often that it's lost it's credibility when used by the (relatively) few genuine cases.

    +1

    If I hear another asshole complain about a 'slow metabolism' while stuffing a can of pringles down their gullet, I'll have to be held down.

    When will people stop trying to bend the laws of physics to excuse their laziness and gluttony?!

    I don't say this in a condescending fashion either - I'm about a 2 stone overweight but I know exactly how it got there, and I'm doing something about it!

    Pies+Sofa=Lard - it really is that simple... But you'll never find anyone angrier than a porker that's made to face their own fatness...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 giddynurse


    Milod is completely correct here..

    To be honest.. why should people get so much sympathy for being fat?
    They know what they are doing when they ram 2 tubes of jaffa cakes, and a packet of mikados into their pie hole..

    These girls are being idiots .. they're just drawing more attention to themselves by raising the issue with the media..

    The most effective way for them to get return on the club.. would be to disappear for 4 months.. get a healthy diet together, following by an exersize schedule.. and come back to the club, looking absolutely fabulous.. but not go in.. just make a statement and disappear..

    basically.. if fat people are so miserable and sensitive about being fat.. then why dont they do something about it instead of live in denial and use the stupid of excuse of ''women have curves..'' .. that just makes women look like retards.. i have curves.. i am a size 12, with F chest.. but my god i do not have a whopper belly and bingo wings to match..

    if fat people are miserable.. would they stop wasting the medias time, and do something about it..

    however.. if it doesnt affect them to be fat.. then they should quit soiling nightclubs reputations, and drink at home with the rest of the gigantic individuals..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    giddynurse wrote: »
    The most effective way for them to get return on the club.. would be to disappear for 4 months.. get a healthy diet together, following by an exersize schedule.. and come back to the club, looking absolutely fabulous.. but not go in.. just make a statement and disappear..

    LOL. Then the manager will claim to be right and every club will put in this policy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭The Mighty Ken


    giddynurse wrote: »
    Milod is completely correct here..

    To be honest.. why should people get so much sympathy for being fat?
    They know what they are doing when they ram 2 tubes of jaffa cakes, and a packet of mikados into their pie hole..

    These girls are being idiots .. they're just drawing more attention to themselves by raising the issue with the media..

    The most effective way for them to get return on the club.. would be to disappear for 4 months.. get a healthy diet together, following by an exersize schedule.. and come back to the club, looking absolutely fabulous.. but not go in.. just make a statement and disappear..

    basically.. if fat people are so miserable and sensitive about being fat.. then why dont they do something about it instead of live in denial and use the stupid of excuse of ''women have curves..'' .. that just makes women look like retards.. i have curves.. i am a size 12, with F chest.. but my god i do not have a whopper belly and bingo wings to match..

    if fat people are miserable.. would they stop wasting the medias time, and do something about it..

    however.. if it doesnt affect them to be fat.. then they should quit soiling nightclubs reputations, and drink at home with the rest of the gigantic individuals..

    To be fair, these women were grossly discriminated against and I hope the club gets sued into bankruptcy. Although I do agree with your fundamental point - I feel embarrassed for people who try to defend being overweight as if it wasn't their choice when, in almost all cases, it is.

    Let's also not forget though that there are a lot of reasons why people become obese other than just downright gluttony and laziness. People who suffer from drepression, for example, can tend to overeat to try and alleviate their symptoms. As such, a certain amount of empathy is needed. At the end of the day, nobody wants to be fat.

    The only people I have a problem with are those who are genuinely lazy and greedy yet who take the attitude that their weight is everthing and everyone else's fault but their own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭marti101


    Im not fat im just undertall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭ImDave


    The manager actually thinks that this is going to improve business? Is this some kind of viral marketing stunt?


  • Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 12,739 Mod ✭✭✭✭cournioni


    EI-DAV wrote: »
    The manager actually thinks that this is going to improve business? Is this some kind of viral marketing stunt?
    I'd go into a club if they didn't allow fat girls into them, for sure. Too bad it would be empty around here... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yeah, but most people who have a go at overweight people aren't even thinking about stuff like that. They're just taking advantage of how it's "fair game" to make fun of overweight people and it makes them feel good about themselves. Having to see fat people, having to work with fat people, having to talk to fat people - that's the context they're referring to, and it doesn't affect them remotely.
    Actually, a number of studies show that subconsciously people *are* affected by other people's weight, in that they deal with that person differently.
    For example, a study was done (no links atm) where people were told about a job that was being filled in their team. They were given two identical candidates, same sex, same age, comparable qualifications, and shown a photo. One candidate being overweight, one being of "normal" size. The results showed that in nearly every test, the person picked was the one who was of "normal" weight. Even when both candidates were overweight, the less overweight person was picked.
    The age, sex or weight of the person doing the picking didn't seem to make a difference.

    So from that point of view, clearly the weight of the person you're interacting with has some sort of effect on your attitude to them, even if you don't realise it.
    AFC_1903 wrote: »
    I've 2 friends over 25 stone, for medical reasons, and another one who probably is about the same. One is one o my best mates, and I (10+1/2 stone) eat about twice what he does...
    As pointed out, this is very unlikely. You don't say whether your best mate is one of the ones with the medical condition or just the fat guy.
    Dudess wrote: »
    I'd agree in general - but there ARE those prone to excessive weight gain due to a medical condition. It's not true that there's only one reason - most of the time that one reason is applicable all right, but there are genuine exceptions.
    The number of people who are overweight for medical reasons is very small. Even more, the number of people who are overweight for medical reasons which cannot be treated effectively is much smaller again.

    In general, when someone comes on and says, "I am fat because I have a medical condition", and they can't immediately tell you the name of that medical condition, then you know they're talking crap.
    Duckjob wrote: »
    The reality is masses of obese (often morbidly so) people, in complete denial of the simple reasons for their condition:
    (a) diet of crappy food
    (b) little or no exercise to counteract (a) even a little
    (c) complete denial
    To be fair, weight loss is primarily to do with diet. Even if someone exercises 5 hours a day, 7 days a week, they'll still be a fatso if they spend the rest of their time eating takeaways.

    I don't think "denial" adequately covers the mental part of the problem. There are few overweight people who think they're not overweight. However, there's usually a mental block which they've developed which prevents them from facing up to the fact. Often the problem is compounded because their method of hiding from their problem is to find comfort in their food. More so then denial, the real issue is "will". Much like giving up smoking, you can bleat on about wanting to lose weight until the cows come home, but until you decide, "this is it", you won't lose the weight.

    It's a sort of "Eureka" moment. Sometimes people will go for a day eating healthy and then forget about it the next day. That just means your heart wasn't in it - you didn't really want to lose weight. When you really, really want to change your lifestyle, you will know, and you will stick with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    giddynurse wrote: »
    These girls are being idiots .. they're just drawing more attention to themselves by raising the issue with the media..
    Why? The women were clearly discriminated against and publicly insulted too.
    Any establishment has to right to refuse admission but giving "you're too fat" as an excuse is blatant discrimination. And sure one of the girls was only a size 14, hardly morbidly obese.

    giddynurse wrote: »
    The most effective way for them to get return on the club.. would be to disappear for 4 months.. get a healthy diet together, following by an exersize schedule.. and come back to the club, looking absolutely fabulous.. but not go in.. just make a statement and disappear..
    You're watching waaaay too many American teen movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 546 ✭✭✭AFC_1903


    hussey wrote: »
    I doubt that very much, unless you are some kind of Iron Man

    In my view, simple science if you consume more calories than your burn = weight gain.


    I have a really fast metabolism, and a huge appetite. If one of the lads on boards who know me in person see this post, i'm sure they'll agree with me on this! I also do several sports on a regular basis, inc football and cycling.

    My friend on the other hand has a bad back and gets very little exercise. His diet is pretty good, definitly not bad - about the same as mine. He wasn't able to take his dog out for walks and he had to give her up, so as not to be unfail/cruel to it (this broke his heart to do). He tries to do what he can, in terms of diet and exercise but his back prevents most exercise. It pains me to see him like this, but things are slowly improving.


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    This sounds like the greatest club ever. Now you don't need to become friendly with the fat chick to get with the hot one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 316 ✭✭Magpie!


    Anyone get the email yet that's doing the rounds saying it was Coppers that this happened at? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    I agree 100% with the manager. It is his club and management reserve the right to refuse admission as they see fit.

    If I was refused from a bar because I didn't look after myself and I smelled of BO/wearing filthy clothes and was told I cannot enter because "You stink and your clothes are dirty" - I'd have to accept that.

    End of the day, fat people are fat due to laziness and gluttony, RARE medical exceptions aside.

    Also this 'Proud to be fat' BS is simply that, BS. I think it was Dudess that hit the nail on the head when she said if there was a pill to melt away the fatness, they'd take it.
    AFC_1903 wrote: »
    I have a really fast metabolism, and a huge appetite. If one of the lads on boards who know me in person see this post, i'm sure they'll agree with me on this! I also do several sports on a regular basis, inc football and cycling.

    Without meaning to go to far OT, what is a typical days diet for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    seamus wrote: »
    I don't think "denial" adequately covers the mental part of the problem. There are few overweight people who think they're not overweight. However, there's usually a mental block which they've developed which prevents them from facing up to the fact.

    I'd agree that most overweight people are probably all too aware that they're overweight.

    By denial I was referring to people who are in denial about the reasons for their weight problem - people who claim they exercise rigourously everyday, eat healthy meals and by some medical anomoly they just happen to be 15 stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Naos wrote: »
    I agree 100% with the manager. It is his club and management reserve the right to refuse admission as they see fit.
    AFAIK they're not supposed to give a reason though because that leaves them open for cases of discrimination. That's why if you get refused from a nightclub you usually get some BS reason like "Club's full" or "Regulars only"

    Naos wrote: »
    If I was refused from a bar because I didn't look after myself and I smelled of BO/wearing filthy clothes and was told I cannot enter because "You stink and your clothes are dirty" - I'd have to accept that.
    Not really the same thing though. And where do you stop? size 10? 12? 14? Are bouncers going to have to do BMI calculations before they allow people into clubs?
    And what next?
    "Sorry mate no Gingers"
    "But, but it's not my fault I'm ginger!"
    "Well it is your fault you haven't dyed it. Go home and dye it and I'll think about letting you in"


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    BaZmO* wrote: »
    AFAIK they're not supposed to give a reason though because that leaves them open for cases of discrimination. That's why if you get refused from a nightclub you usually get some BS reason like "Club's full" or "Regulars only"



    Not really the same thing though. And where do you stop? size 10? 12? 14? Are bouncers going to have to do BMI calculations before they allow people into clubs?
    And what next?
    "Sorry mate no Gingers"
    "But, but it's not my fault I'm ginger!"
    "Well it is your fault you haven't dyed it. Go home and dye it and I'll think about letting you in"

    The majority of fat people are fat through their own actions and laziness, with a small, small minority due to medical reasons. Gingers are born that way, the poor bastards. Besides, maybe having no gingers would be a good thing. It's just plain freaky when their pale pale skin becomes incandescent with the fluorescent lights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    BaZmO* wrote:
    AFAIK they're not supposed to give a reason though because that leaves them open for cases of discrimination. That's why if you get refused from a nightclub you usually get some BS reason like "Club's full" or "Regulars only"

    Fair enough that they are open to discrimination, but a great marketing ploy none the less if it was meant. However discrimination in nightclubs is quite prevalent, what about Ladies nights?
    BaZmO* wrote:
    Not really the same thing though. And where do you stop? size 10? 12? 14? Are bouncers going to have to do BMI calculations before they allow people into clubs?
    And what next?
    "Sorry mate no Gingers"
    "But, but it's not my fault I'm ginger!"
    "Well it is your fault you haven't dyed it. Go home and dye it and I'll think about letting you in"

    I disagree. Gingers are genetically predisposed to having ginger hair. Fat people are not. They choose to be that way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    The majority of fat people are fat through their own actions and laziness, with a small, small minority due to medical reasons. Gingers are born that way, the poor bastards.
    Yes I know that but the point I was making was where do you draw the line? And who decides what's "too fat"?

    Listen, don't get me wrong I slightly irks me when I see people that are grossly over weight through laziness but there seems to be this media witch hunt where they want everybody to look the same. I understand the health implications of being overweight but carrying a few extra pounds is hardly a crime against humanity.

    It's just plain freaky when their pale pale skin becomes incandescent with the fluorescent lights
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭PurpleBerry


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    but there seems to be this media witch hunt where they want everybody to look the same.

    I think it was Groove Armada who put it best

    If everybody looked the same
    We'd get tired of looking at each other
    You know a fella's good for the moola


    Meanwhile, back on topic,

    It seems the "fat hate" on this thread stems from attacking people of or above a certain size for being lazy. So, my angle is: What if you were a size 20-something lady, realised it was time to put down the fork, lost a couple of stones, reduced your size to the mid-to-late teens, went to a nightclub and got refused for being "too fat". Could you show them a "before" picture and claim that you are in the process?

    Probably not in this case, the bouncers would've just said. "Great, at this rate you'll be welcome here by Christmas" but it is another point to bring up in the "lazyness" debate. You see a large person (male or female) and think "Lazy sod" but for all you know they were 3 or 4 stones bigger just a few months back and are actually doing a lot about their problem. it doesn't happen overnight.

    Judge not lest ye be judged and all that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    Did you see the girl in the picture?

    She was not carrying "a few extra pounds". She was very obese.

    Who decide's who's overweight? Fat is fat dude.

    As for this media scaremongoring wanting everyone to look the same? The articles are all about how skinny and unhealthy celeberities are now, not about how fat they are.

    Even so, there is nothing wrong with people being "the same" if it's for everyones benefit. It would be a better world if everyone was a non-smoker. It would be a better world if everyone was healthy and not fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Naos wrote: »
    Did you see the girl in the picture?

    She was not carrying "a few extra pounds". She was very obese.

    Who decide's who's overweight? Fat is fat dude.

    As for this media scaremongoring wanting everyone to look the same? The articles are all about how skinny and unhealthy celeberities are now, not about how fat they are.

    Even so, there is nothing wrong with people being "the same" if it's for everyones benefit. It would be a better world if everyone was a non-smoker. It would be a better world if everyone was healthy and not fat.

    and if everyone decided to wear clothes that fit them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭STUBBORNGIRL


    Well for what it is worth i think that is pure discrimination! would he be treated the same way if he had refused a black person? In my opinion regardless of someone's weight, height, race, religion, disability etc... no one is entitled to use that as an excuse to refuse someone entry to anywhere! he should definitely be done for discrimination.

    I am overweight and I find in general people do not care - yeah the odd comment but it doesnt effect me! People should live and let live! at the end of the day it is no-ones business if the person is happy then good for them!

    And i would just like to say to all those shallow men on boards - and from reading this i gather that there are many of you - i hope ye are all as hot and as good looking as ye imply and that ye never put on weight - lets hope the sun keeps shining for ye! ye never know what is around the corner so i think its best not to be so judgemental!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭marti101


    Everybodys going on about being overweight but just because you are skinny doesnt mak you healthy. I was very underweight and i was unhealthy i ate some crap because i could eat what i liked and not put on a pound.Now on other end of spectrum overweight but trying to do something bout it.My cousin is so overweight that shes in a wheelchair and is registered disabled


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Well for what it is worth i think that is pure discrimination! would he be treated the same way if he had refused a black person? In my opinion regardless of someone's weight, height, race, religion, disability etc... no one is entitled to use that as an excuse to refuse someone entry to anywhere! he should definitely be done for discrimination.

    I am overweight and I find in general people do not care - yeah the odd comment but it doesnt effect me! People should live and let live! at the end of the day it is no-ones business if the person is happy then good for them!

    And i would just like to say to all those shallow men on boards - and from reading this i gather that there are many of you - i hope ye are all as hot and as good looking as ye imply and that ye never put on weight - lets hope the sun keeps shining for ye! ye never know what is around the corner so i think its best not to judge!

    In fairness the prices in night clubs are through the roof now..

    15 euro in the door 6-7 euro a pint the last thing I want to be looking at after paying that is the happy clappy fat chicks wobbling around the dance floor in tank tops two sizes too small...

    There are loads of places for fat women, night clubs just isn't one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    marti101 wrote: »
    Everybodys going on about being overweight but just because you are skinny doesnt mak you healthy. I was very underweight and i was unhealthy i ate some crap because i could eat what i liked and not put on a pound.Now on other end of spectrum overweight but trying to do something bout it.My cousin is so overweight that shes in a wheelchair and is registered disabled

    it doesn't mean your healthy it means your nicer to look at and the nightlub owners dont care how healthy you are they want the place full of hot women which brings men who spend a hell of lot more money (in general)

    your health is not there concern


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Captain Ginger


    I'm willing to bet most of the people on their anti fat crusade here were at one time fat messes in their lives and because they beat it are getting up on their high horses and condeming others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 giddynurse


    i dont watch tv whatsoever.. it was an idea, nothing more.
    listen.. fat people arent human.. thats my new answer :)
    ok im joking
    but seriously.. its just ridiculous..
    would you like a nightclub full of gigantic people?
    no!
    you want slender hotties!
    dont try and be politically correct.. be flippin honest!!!!

    BEEEE HONESTTTT!! gah!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    ntlbell wrote: »
    it doesn't mean your healthy it means your nicer to look at and the nightlub owners dont care how healthy you are they want the place full of hot women which brings men who spend a hell of lot more money (in general)

    your health is not there concern
    Yep. Naos and a few others have been saying stuff like "these women are unhealthy, lazy etc, and the club owner has every right to turn away people like that" - if that were their reason for turning away paying customers it would warrant a discrimination suit. Wtf? Having an aversion to a person's lifestyle is NOT grounds for turning them away from a club. However, if you feel it is in the interests of business, then you have more grounds - and that is the case here.


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