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Just found my old car for sale, something aint right!

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    sharkman
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭sharkman


    Hmmmmm , I think I'll call him and see if he can supply FSH for any car , He could be a handy contact :D


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    Advise the Gardai immediately, before someone gets stung with that car.


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    #4
    positron
    Registered Users Posts: 6,369 ✭✭✭positron


    May be he drove it in reverse for two years! :D


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    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    He/she should be stopped before somebody buys it.


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    #6
    Homer
    Registered Users Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Homer


    Well they have been emailed the link to this thread so they know about the discrepancy.
    They may be innocent (and is until proven otherwise) but then again it wouldnt be the first time a car dealer has fiddled with the mileage on a second hand car now would it?!


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    Fr0g
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Fr0g


    I remember looking at that car at the time. It was on carzone or cbg, I was thinking about buying it!


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    cashmni1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 629 ✭✭✭cashmni1


    AudiChris wrote: »
    Advise the Gardai immediately, before someone gets stung with that car.

    Good idea, I am all for this sort of thing to be stopped, but what are the guards actually going to do?

    You need to know a Guard with some time on his hands to get to the bottom of this.

    Suppose the man is innocent and bought from a garage with less that 90k on the clock. Then what happens? The Garage denies the fact that they ever clocked the car etc. Although I think the Guards can prosecute if they have evdince.

    Suppose the guy is guilty......someone already sent him a link this site so now he is aware.

    I really dispise clocking cars tho. All your hard work keeping the car well maintained, serviced and generally looked after. You sell it to a person who gets a nice motor.
    They sell it clocked later on to a person who gets a dodgy motor and make big money. --> Your money really. (cost of a well maintained car)


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    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    cashmni1 wrote: »
    Good idea, I am all for this sort of thing to be stopped, but what are the guards actually going to do?

    You need to know a Guard with some time on his hands to get to the bottom of this.

    Suppose the man is innocent and bought from a garage with less that 90k on the clock. Then what happens? The Garage denies the fact that they ever clocked the car etc. Although I think the Guards can prosecute if they have evdince.

    Suppose the guy is guilty......someone already sent him a link this site so now he is aware.

    I really dispise clocking cars tho. All your hard work keeping the car well maintained, serviced and generally looked after. You sell it to a person who gets a nice motor.
    They sell it clocked later on to a person who gets a dodgy motor and make big money. --> Your money really. (cost of a well maintained car)

    It's illegal to sell a car that you know to be clocked without advising the new buyer first.

    If the current owner's unaware the car's been clocked, the Gardai could make him aware and remind him of his duty to advise any potential purchaser accordingly. It would also give him the ability to go back to whoever sold him the car and ask if they were aware the mileage had changed (not too likely).

    If the current owner is aware it's clocked, the Gardai can again make sure he knows his responsibility to inform the new owner.

    The car will have to be sold eventually, the owner won't keep it forever, I'm just worried that the new owner will be taken advantage of. As long as they know the mileage is wrong and the FSH is false, they can alter their bid for the car appropriately.


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    Danbo!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    What are the chances you have your NCT cert from march 2006 (assuming you owned the car then?)- that would be proof of mileage and it could be used to prove when the car was clocked. Or who was in possession of the car when clocked.


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    Lord Nikon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    4700euro for a 97 A4, overpriced tbh


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    zzzzzzzz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭zzzzzzzz


    could be a typo. 102000 120000?


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    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    aidan.offbeat wrote: »
    could be a typo. 102000 120000?

    Then it would have the exact same mileage it had 2 years ago, which would still be suspicious.


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    snowman707
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭snowman707


    What are the implications if a car is returned for NCT in 2 years with lower mileage than previous?

    disgusted with ads. in a certain publication offering "mileage correction"


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    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    aidan.offbeat wrote: »
    could be a typo. 102000 120000?

    That would suggest he didn't drive it at all for 2 years. It's possible, seeing as he managed to find a full service history for it that the previous owner didn't have!


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    pa990
    Registered Users Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭pa990


    maybe it had a diferent engone put into it..


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    Biro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    pa990 wrote: »
    maybe it had a diferent engone put into it..

    Doesn't matter, there's more to a car than the engine - clock should never be altered in a car.


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    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    phutyle wrote: »
    Then it would have the exact same mileage it had 2 years ago, which would still be suspicious.

    people round that type of thing off

    maybe its above 120,000 and below 130,000

    he rounded it down to 120,000 but wrote 102,000 by mistake

    either way, get on with your life, there are con artists in this world for one reason, because there is also a huge supply of stupid people, if you don't let these stupid people do stupid things they'll never learn


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    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    people round that type of thing off

    maybe its above 120,000 and below 130,000

    he rounded it down to 120,000 but wrote 102,000 by mistake

    either way, get on with your life, there are con artists in this world for one reason, because there is also a huge supply of stupid people, if you don't let these stupid people do stupid things they'll never learn
    So the next car I sell with 127,000 miles I will round it off to 120,000 when advertising it, great way to get rid of a buyer :rolleyes:


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    Barr
    Registered Users Posts: 7,010 ✭✭✭Barr


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    people round that type of thing off

    maybe its above 120,000 and below 130,000

    he rounded it down to 120,000 but wrote 102,000 by mistake

    either way, get on with your life, there are con artists in this world for one reason, because there is also a huge supply of stupid people, if you don't let these stupid people do stupid things they'll never learn

    You dont have to be stupid to buy a clocked car . It could happen to anyone and there is no way of verifying milage of a car in Ireland , unlike the UK.

    Does anyone know what penalties there are for car clocking ? I've never heard of anyone being done for it


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    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    So the next car I sell with 127,000 miles I will round it off to 120,000 when advertising it, great way to get rid of a buyer :rolleyes:
    Some ppl are cheeky enough to do this. I enquired about a car that had "about 90 thousand" on the clock. When I get there it had 99,700.


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    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    This type of crap could be stamped out in the blink of an eye if the NCT records were made public. They wouldn't have to publish any personal details - just the date of test and the milage.

    I know you can pay and get a reprint of any cert - I don't think they'll give them to anyone except the owner though.


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    dingding
    Registered Users Posts: 4,931 ✭✭✭dingding


    I see the timing belt was changes at 100K, OP did you get the timing belt changed and did your mechanic write 100K on the timing belt cover?


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    ResDub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19 ✭ResDub


    Barr wrote: »
    You dont have to be stupid to buy a clocked car . It could happen to anyone and there is no way of verifying milage of a car in Ireland , unlike the UK.

    Does anyone know what penalties there are for car clocking ? I've never heard of anyone being done for it

    If someone is caught Knowingly selling a clocked car they can get done with deception carries massive fines and prison sentences. I know of a garage up in Inchicore (since gone bust) that got done as they were at it wholesale. Had to compensate everyone they conned.

    The problem is proving the knowing bit, say this car in this ad was passed on in the trade three or four times and is clocked along they way its hard to find out "who done it" as most traders don't keep records and there may be a few people in the chain between the op who can say for sure what the mileage was.

    Clocking is ruining car sales and its only a matter of time before they bring in laws obliging traders to record mileage when cars are sold. Opening up the NCT mileage records would be a massive help.


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    noblestee wrote: »
    What are the chances you have your NCT cert from march 2006 (assuming you owned the car then?)- that would be proof of mileage and it could be used to prove when the car was clocked. Or who was in possession of the car when clocked.
    The NCT do not provide mileage records apparently because of data protection towards previous owners or something!
    snowman707 wrote: »
    What are the implications if a car is returned for NCT in 2 years with lower mileage than previous?
    Absolutely none!
    SteveC wrote: »
    This type of crap could be stamped out in the blink of an eye if the NCT records were made public. They wouldn't have to publish any personal details - just the date of test and the milage.

    I know you can pay and get a reprint of any cert - I don't think they'll give them to anyone except the owner though.
    Yet another bullshít piece of logic in the NCT


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    brightkane
    Registered Users Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭brightkane


    dingding wrote: »
    I see the timing belt was changes at 100K, OP did you get the timing belt changed and did your mechanic write 100K on the timing belt cover?

    to be honest i cant remember when the tb was done on my car, i think there was something tippexed on the engine cover though.

    But the car was updated as sold today, either it was sold, or hes trying other avenues to sell it.......


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    Cionád
    Registered Users Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    kbannon wrote: »
    The NCT do not provide mileage records apparently because of data protection towards previous owners or something!

    If he had the piece of paper then that would have the mileage at the time he got the NCT done though. No need to contact the NCT again to verify...


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    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    people round that type of thing off

    maybe its above 120,000 and below 130,000

    he rounded it down to 120,000 but wrote 102,000 by mistake

    either way, get on with your life, there are con artists in this world for one reason, because there is also a huge supply of stupid people, if you don't let these stupid people do stupid things they'll never learn

    You don't honestly believe that nonsense you just wrote do you?


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    cgc5483
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭cgc5483


    Cionád wrote: »
    If he had the piece of paper then that would have the mileage at the time he got the NCT done though. No need to contact the NCT again to verify...

    That would be great if they could actually read the mileage correctly. At my NCT they recorded the my car mileage by using the trip odometer reading and even got that wrong at 67356 miles (it actually read 6725.6 miles). My car only had 27000 miles on it. They never get it right, unfortunately i didn't notice until a couple of weeks later.


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    boomboombazza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭boomboombazza


    sold

    more likely removed...


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    AntiVirus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    brightkane wrote: »
    Heres my old car I sold 2 yrs ago,

    http://www.octane.ie/ads/car.php?id=256

    Heres it for sale on carzone now, with 20k less miles, and also a full service history, (there wasnt any when i sold it)!

    http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/Audi/A4/car/1126454

    few things changed but its the same car, same reg!

    So what have you done to get to the bottom of this?

    Grow some balls and make this an interesting thread. :rolleyes:


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