The General Talk or Moan About Your Dart Skills Thread

whaaames

had a smashing game tonight, honestly have never been happier with the way i played,..

played N01 on level 6, and the computer was playing at the higher end on the level 6 scale. Only had time for a first to 3 set match but first time i can honestly say i finished a match without a moan.
Won 3 sets to 1, computer averaging 69.88...

I hit 22 100s, 8 140s but alas no 180s, finished with a 73.83 average, my highest ever for a prolonged period of time. I'm actually buzzin' after it, i'm just dreading throwing a 55 average 2moro to bring me down to earth, ha...

ratinakeg

whaaames wrote: »

had a smashing game tonight, honestly have never been happier with the way i played,..

played N01 on level 6, and the computer was playing at the higher end on the level 6 scale. Only had time for a first to 3 set match but first time i can honestly say i finished a match without a moan.
Won 3 sets to 1, computer averaging 69.88...

I hit 22 100s, 8 140s but alas no 180s, finished with a 73.83 average, my highest ever for a prolonged period of time. I'm actually buzzin' after it, i'm just dreading throwing a 55 average 2moro to bring me down to earth, ha...

:cool:
That's some impressive throwing!
Even if average 55 or so, you'll be a good pub player!

Kingp35

whaaames wrote: »

I hit 22 100s, 8 140s but alas no 180s, finished with a 73.83 average, my highest ever for a prolonged period of time. I'm actually buzzin' after it, i'm just dreading throwing a 55 average 2moro to bring me down to earth, ha...

That's an excellent average, if you can average over 60 on a regular basis you would do well on a pub team. If you can average 70 then you would definitely win more matches than you lose. Very good average that, fair play.

Evolution Enter

Finally got a go on this programme, did well on level four when averaging 20.75 over 3 sets

Went at it the day after and averaged 14.75, just goes to show my own inconsistancy, but great being able to monitor your own stats and introduce some pressure to practice

passinginterest

Was playing n01 on level 6 on and off all day. Played 10 sets best of 7 legs and won 6-4. 60 legs in total, hit 70 tons 20 140's and 3 180's, High out 101, best leg 16, average 66.57 and checkout 24.63%.

Happy enough with that, checkout % is above average for me and my average scoring is creeping up. Decided to try the narrow flights again yesterday and ended up changing my stance too, partly due to the flights and partly due to a sore back, it seems to be working though. In the last set I won 4-1 and had an average over 75 which I'm delighted with.

ratinakeg

passinginterest wrote: »

Was playing n01 on level 6 on and off all day. Played 10 sets best of 7 legs and won 6-4. 60 legs in total, hit 70 tons 20 140's and 3 180's, High out 101, best leg 16, average 66.57 and checkout 24.63%.

Happy enough with that, checkout % is above average for me and my average scoring is creeping up. Decided to try the narrow flights again yesterday and ended up changing my stance too, partly due to the flights and partly due to a sore back, it seems to be working though. In the last set I won 4-1 and had an average over 75 which I'm delighted with.

Serious Darts!:cool:
Great average considering with the amount of legs and sets you played.

whaaames

thanks lads, appreciate the support, im gonna start playin a bit in a few competitions and maybe on the team thats startin in my club...

have to say tho i dont always average that, most of the time i finish a match with a 67/68 average, never really less (which is good) but sometimes i can push it over the 70, but again it goes back to the thought that i dunno how my nerve would be in a pub, only one way to find out i suppose...

i am throwing more consistant since i'm playing with N01

Kingp35

If you can average that all the time then you would be one of the better pub players. If you average around 60 you would hold your own and you are well above that so you should definitely go and give it a go. I'm a good bit off that at the moment, I'm waiting until I'm hitting over 60 regularily before hitting the competitions.

matty84

Just after playing the computer level 6 on no.1 best of 13 legs eventually winning 7-6 in the end, im not over the moon about my performance but not disappointed either as i hadnt picked up a dart since friday, i had a checkout percentage any pro would be proud of, but just not scoring enough ton+'s and not taking out any big finishes seems to be my problem at the minute, had a 180 in the final leg which i was pleased with as it really sowed up the victory for me..Also lost count how many times i hit 85's/95's:rolleyes:

my stats
100+s=8
140+s=3
180's=1
highest out=40
best leg=16
worst legs=31
3 dart ave=62.24
first 9 dart ave=64.64
checkout % =53.85 7/13

comp stats
100+s=15
140+s=3
180's=1
highest out=40
best leg=19
worst legs=25
3 dart ave=60.83
first 9 dart ave=75.51
checkout % =19.35 6/31

Kingp35

Very good checkout stats for such a long game.

I played today as well and I finished up with a checkout percentage of 36% against the computer having beat him 8-5. It's so annoying though because the last few times I have played my percentage was as low as 6% which is awful but it has also been as high as 83% in a match that I won. It changes so much, i have no consistency on my doubles at all. If I could hit one of of three everytime I would be very happy.

whaaames

I think anyone would, 1 in 3 means that you will be taking out most legs without a second bite at it, and who wouldn't take that.

I'm like a yo yo on doubles, theres days when i feel i cant miss (even though i do,ha) and other days when i can't buy a double, even my favorite ones, and this always reflects in my average, i always average over 70 for the first 9, but when i'm off on the doubles it has such an effect...

Kingp35

Finally beat stupid N01 on Level 5 and I didn't just beat him I hammered him 8-3. Everything I threw went in today, I played some very good darts for me. I averaged 59.63 which is very annoying because I finally thought i would break the 60 barrier. I hit 12 100+'s and 2 140's and had a checkout percentage of 34.78 (8/23) with a highest out of 94.

I'm happy enough with that. Bring on the League!

passinginterest

I managed to have a first 9 average over 5 legs just over 90, against a real person last night Hitting 140, 140, 100 in the last leg did the job, mind you I still took 17 darts for that leg and my overall average was only just over 60. Felt extra good because the guy I was playing has only just started to play and he keeps nicking legs off me, I was really struggling, trying too hard in the other legs we had played, finally clicked last night and he wasn't best pleased :P

Degag

Still can't beat level 3... lost 8-6 twice today, which is still quite better than my previous attempts. In the first one i was 5 - 0 down and came back to 5-5 but ran out of steam then. Second one i was 4-2 up and then 6-6... when he went 7-6 up i hit a 180 and a 140 in the last leg but couldn't hit d6 to get a draw.:eek: My checkout was pretty good (for me at least) at 23% and average at only 42 which was what cost me i reckon, considering i've thrown close to a 50 average and lost 8-2 or 8-3... its starting to annoy me now that i can't beat it though.

Kingp35

Degag wrote: »

Still can't beat level 3... lost 8-6 twice today, which is still quite better than my previous attempts. In the first one i was 5 - 0 down and came back to 5-5 but ran out of steam then. Second one i was 4-2 up and then 6-6... when he went 7-6 up i hit a 180 and a 140 in the last leg but couldn't hit d6 to get a draw.:eek: My checkout was pretty good (for me at least) at 23% and average at only 42 which was what cost me i reckon, considering i've thrown close to a 50 average and lost 8-2 or 8-3... its starting to annoy me now that i can't beat it though.

This was the same as me on level 5. He beat me 7 times in a row before I finally beat him. Just stick at it. A 23% checkout is definitely a good percentage. The only advice I will give you for the scoring which has helped me is to concentrate on keeping the darts in the 20's rather than trying to hit trebles. If you can hit 60's you will do very well. The trebles will come if you can stay in the 20 bed.

Double Top

played a league match last night and i was muck, before the game i was throwing great but the first thing i started playing it all went downhill.
was all over the place, in the first game had 105 left 20,1,10 couldn't even hit a 15 to leave 70, finally ended on D1 next game picked it up a little bit got a 20 darter. i noticed that i the first game i was throwing much slower then normal and i have no idea why. really drives me crazy when i can put in 14-20 darters on a regular basis but nevwer in a row:mad::mad::mad:

padr81

I'm having a funny little problem, for some strange reason the darts seem to be coming out of my hand funny and sticking funny to the board.

I stand slightly to the right and never move.
If I throw for D11 the dart should angle slightly to the left if that makes sense.
Despite me throwing to the left the dart seems to stick in the board with the point to the right and the flight to the left, like its curving in the air.

Yesterday in practice against No.1 I beat it 10-1 on level 5 with a 70 average. Hit 2 16 darters in a row followed by a 14 and worst game was 24 (bar the one i lost in which i didn't finish in 30). Darts stuck perfectly, for my throw.

Against Patrick ten minutes later I averaged 54 and was lucky to scrape a 6-4.with my best being a 24 and worst being a 39 or something. Darts were sticking funny again. I had to ditch the 20's altogether cause i kept hitting T1 and blocking the 20 bed and had to switch to 18's to even start remotely playing.

Same thing Monday at the comp, in the few practice games before hand I threw nothing over 21 and held the board for about half and hour with my darts sticking absolutely perfectly. First round of the comp and I couldn't hit ****e lost 3-0 to a very poor player. Dunno what it was but it certainly wasn't nerves I've beaten the same guy about 10 times in the last 6 months.

Im going to give the big comp a miss tonight over this cause going down there against half the Mayo and Sligo team would only cause me to give up if I threw like that.

whaaames

thats a bit of a weird one, sounds like a simple thing you could be doing that just causes the dart to alter in flight a bit, like cocking your hand or releasing a small bit later than normal etc.
I have changed my grip on the dart about 6 or 7 times since i started playing about 6 years ago, i dunno why but i have, and everytime i find a new way of gripping the dart i think thats what ill settle on but for some reason it always ends up getting altered a bit.

but to be honest if i throw 3 darts each of them could enter the board at slightly different angles, and thats real weird but i dont mind once they are hitting the target.

Double Top

could be in your head, when your playing against the computer or just throwing some practice games you don't really worry if you lose because theres nothing riding on it, but when you play against a friend or in a match you can be nervous without even knowing it, happened with me last tuesday, threw a few games at home and got 3 180's and loads of huge shot out's but when i played the match i was cack.
maybe your putting to much pressure on yourself and not focusing on your darts but on your throw instead

padr81

DT - You could be on to something even though I don't really get the ****s I do tend to focus on making my throw correct in competition as opposed to just throwing if that makes sense. Maybe I'm trying too hard to keep my throw perfect as opposed to just throwing.

On Monday I'm gonna focus on my throw in practice and just throw when it comes to the games, put all my focus on the target and let the hand eye co-ordination do the work.

dionsiseire

Was out practicing with a young dublin team youth last night in preparation for our league match tonight

twas a good game overall thoroughly enjoyed it and a decent standard of darts

i lost 3-2 in the first set, 3-0 in the second set and 3-1 in the third set

The we played first to 5 and i won 5-1 and then we played first to 3 to finish off and i lost 3-1

overall 13-9 in legs against a very very good player. i was quite happy with that

matty84

dionsiseire wrote: »

Was out practicing with a young dublin team youth last night in preparation for our league match tonight

twas a good game overall thoroughly enjoyed it and a decent standard of darts

i lost 3-2 in the first set, 3-0 in the second set and 3-1 in the third set

The we played first to 5 and i won 5-1 and then we played first to 3 to finish off and i lost 3-1

overall 13-9 in legs against a very very good player. i was quite happy with that

Well played mate no disgrace in losing to a player that gets into his county team, plus it was close as well only 4 legs in it, did you record any averages at all?Gonna play level 6 in a few, on no.1 best of 13 legs ill post up the result/averages when im finished:D

whaaames

had a good practice session today, played N01 on level 7 for a bit of a test and was going great guns until the computer rattled of 2 17 darters in a row and took out 117 when i was waiting on 28 and i lost 7 legs to 5,..

one of these days ill beat that level 7, although it was a particularly sub par average from the computer at 71.08 on level 7 but i was happy with 68.92...

missed a rake ot fat numbers though on the combination finishes, twice i missed the fat 12 after hitting the treb 19 looking for 101, and thats so infuriating...

dionsiseire

yeah matty he averaged around 67 and me 63. Twas great craic. He is one of the top youths for dublin.

Tonight we had a league match and the cock somehow had mick mcgowan playing for them. Dylan (the youth) got drawn to play mick mcgowan and beat him 2-1 with magic darts. Mick mcgowan was sick. He barely congratulated 15 year old dylan and when mick barry went over to shake his hand he turned his back to him. I always thought mick mcgowan was lovely but after tonight im not a fan of his.

We won 4-2 and have 1 hand on the title. 3 points ahead. 3 games left and we play second place in 2 weeks. Gonna be a great finish to the league. Jacko and mick barry played fantastic darts tonight as did young dylan

Degag

Finally beat n01 level 3 tonight 8-3, averaged only 43 and my checkout wasn't great but i took my chances.

Played level 4 for the first time and very respectably i thought, lost 8-5, averaged nearly 50 so i was delighted with that and if my checkout was better i could have taken him.

shoutman

I'm brutal. Just got that n01 program. Currently losing 3-1 vs level 1. My only win was in a 75 darter epic. I just cant hit my doubles at all. Not too bad knocking off the 501 averaging about 40 to get me down to a checkout but from there on it all goes pair shape. Maybe I'll post up a video as i'm sure i'm not holding/throwing properly. Also I need new darts as the flights on my current ones are a bit worn and showing wear and tear.

padr81

shoutman wrote: »

I'm brutal. Just got that n01 program. Currently losing 3-1 vs level 1. My only win was in a 75 darter epic. I just cant hit my doubles at all. Not too bad knocking off the 501 averaging about 40 to get me down to a checkout but from there on it all goes pair shape. Maybe I'll post up a video as i'm sure i'm not holding/throwing properly. Also I need new darts as the flights on my current ones are a bit worn and showing wear and tear.

Theres no proper method on how to throw your darts mate, find a stance that feels comfortable (its different for everyone), and throw a few darts naturally. You'll have a natural throw (everyone does). Stick with this and make sure you stand and throw the exact same way every single time.

Finding the right set of darts will bring your game on no end and I find a heavier dart seems to be more consistent for beginners. i wouldn't advise going above 27 though. Grip is all important too.

After all this things will become easier.

One your comfortable with your throw it'll just come naturally. At this stage pay no attention to your throw and give alll your focus to your target (shoulda taken this advice myself the last couple of weeks).

To be honest I'f Im throwing for a T20 and hit a 1, I'm so focused on the T20 I don't notice the 1 till after all 3 darts are gone.

Another beginner mistake is to compensate for their throw. For example you aim at the 20 and hit the 1. Never than adjust you arm to the right and aim at the 5 to hit the 20. It was your throw that was off not your aim. the next dart will be straighter and so will the next one and so on.

With regards doubles I never encourage a total beginner to go round the board on doubles as it leads to frustration and they usually quit about 5 or 6. Go round the board on big numbers making sure you nail them all, than throw maybe 6 darts at each double and move on whether you hit it or not.

passinginterest

Good advice there. One of the first things I learned was make sure you have a well balanced stance, you should be stable when you throw the dart, with both feet remaining on the ground (I used to have a habit of lifting my back foot).

The easiest way to get your grip is to grip the dart as you would a pen, you can then modify it from there for comfort. My dart grip is practically identical to how I hold a pen, just with my fingers spread slightly further apart.

As was said earlier from there just throw at the board and you'll find a natural action. Rather than trying to score on 20's all the time use the left side of the board, where you have some relatively high numbers grouped together. Also just practice throwing towards the bull, aiming to keep all three darts within the treble ring to begin with, this should help you develop your natural throw and your aiming.

Evolution Enter

shoutman wrote: »

I'm brutal. Just got that n01 program. Currently losing 3-1 vs level 1. My only win was in a 75 darter epic. I just cant hit my doubles at all. Not too bad knocking off the 501 averaging about 40 to get me down to a checkout but from there on it all goes pair shape. Maybe I'll post up a video as i'm sure i'm not holding/throwing properly. Also I need new darts as the flights on my current ones are a bit worn and showing wear and tear.

For a total beginner, I've a few words of advice to give. Throw from your elbow, not your wrist/hand. If your elbow is in line with the centre of the board, then some practice will go a long way, it's all down to weight then

If you want to practice doubles as a beginner, do nothing other than practice 32 and 40 check outs, in this way you'll end up shooting at 8 of the doubles on the board anyway.

As far as your stance goes, there is the ideal stance of keeping both feet on the ground, but the main thing is being comfortable - even though he's a bad example, Klassen is well up the WORLD rankings and his entire technique is terrible.

And if you are going to try study a pro's style to give you some pointers, I'd recomment Barney or Jenkins. Wade spins too much, Taylor's is too advanced and specific to his own biomechanics, and Priestly and Part's grip is very unusual. Barney is very natural and Jenkin's is very solid, a great combination

If your throw is all over the place I'll give you some advice that Terry Jenkins gave me: "Hang a piece of thread down the middle of the board and aim for that, once you are hitting near the thread in the 20's then the darts will start falling into the trebles"

Hope that helps

abbococo

Evo, was just thinking about that the other day as to which players have the nicest style. Barney definitely but also looking back at some Lowe on youtube he had a great style. I love the delay in the draw back as it was so controlled and am trying it out.... with varying degrees of sucess!

Watched Mardle in Prem League the other night... can't believe he has made it (kinda) with the steep angle on his darts and the fact it varies massively too.

Ronan|Raven

Being over 200 points in the lead against a player who would normally beat you out of sight and then loose due to some of the worst double finishing man has thrown is galling. A right old kick in the nuts.

Kingp35

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Being over 200 points in the lead against a player who would normally beat you out of sight and then loose due to some of the worst double finishing man has thrown is galling. A right old kick in the nuts.

Tell me about it, happens to me way more often than I would like! And the frustrating thing is that some nights I will hit every doubles first time and the next night I won't hit a thing. Makes no sense and annoys the hell out of you.

Evolution Enter

I think darts comes with age by and large, once you get to 30's/40's that's when you gain consistancy

Darts takes years, that's why I enjoy practice

whaaames

Evolution Enter wrote: »

I think darts comes with age by and large, once you get to 30's/40's that's when you gain consistancy

Darts takes years, that's why I enjoy practice

thats what i'm hoping for, they say darts players mature and steady out in their 30's so im looking foreward to getting better (wishful thinking) ha

Kingp35

So does this mean I'm going to have to wait until my 30's before I win the World Championships?

dionsiseire

Most likely your 40's

unless your Mardle

whaaames

it does seem to hold a bit of water that agruement, but i dont think it necessarily refers to age but more so experience, and since experience goes hand in hand with age it probley does carry through that when you hit your 30's (if you've been playing for quite a while) your experience will show through...

but thats the beauty of darts, you can be any age and still be competitive once you practice...

Kingp35

dionsiseire wrote: »

Most likely your 40's

Well at least you agree that I am going to win it so cheers

whaaames

i'd say the day you win the world championships is the day the super leeds win the premiership on the last day, but as a leeds fan i sincerly hope you win it, ha

anyway i just played a game with my mate, messing around more than anything but still it was in the back of my mind that i wasn't throwing particularly well, i'd generally be better than him but he was winning 3-2 before i started really trying and we called it a day with me 7-6 up but it was so frustrating the amount of times i wittled my way down to D1, i hate that number with a passion...

Declan30

Question Folks.
When throwing i hit the treble 20 with my first Dart then without any real movement on the next 2 darts i hit the 5 or 1.
Is there any tips you could give me to correct this.
Appericate any help

passinginterest

Declan30 wrote: »

Question Folks.
When throwing i hit the treble 20 with my first Dart then without any real movement on the next 2 darts i hit the 5 or 1.
Is there any tips you could give me to correct this.
Appericate any help

I think it happens to us all, it's really just about practice an control, there's a slight adrenaline rush when the first goes in and the second will get thrown a little harder or released a little earlier/later. That's the only explanation I can think for it and the only solution is patience, practice and control.

Degag

passinginterest wrote: »

I think it happens to us all, it's really just about practice an control, there's a slight adrenaline rush when the first goes in and the second will get thrown a little harder or released a little earlier/later. That's the only explanation I can think for it and the only solution is patience, practice and control.

Yeah, you're right... whenever i put two in the bed i take an extra half second just to re-focus and correct my stance etc... sometimes i just know that my third dart is going in there after i do this....

whaaames

i think thats the same with everyone, if the first 2 go in you'll band the third one in 7 or 8 times out of ten, because you've threw 2 perfect darts and you know what you've done and you just need to do it again, and that's savage...

but i have to say the amount of times i've put the first dart in the 60 all ready for 2 bedfellows and ended up with 78 or something is unreal, all to do with concentration i reckon, wish i could listen to my own advice...

Degag

whaaames wrote: »

i think thats the same with everyone, if the first 2 go in you'll band the third one in 7 or 8 times out of ten, because you've threw 2 perfect darts and you know what you've done and you just need to do it again, and that's savage...

but i have to say the amount of times i've put the first dart in the 60 all ready for 2 bedfellows and ended up with 78 or something is unreal, all to do with concentration i reckon, wish i could listen to my own advice...

Ah yeah, when i played ronan raven on sunday i probably put 10 absolutely perfect first darts in the triple bed and couldn't follow it up... once the second one goes in, you usually throw the third in the general direction and end up with a 140 at least a lot of the time

whaaames

i'd much rather be wide with the first 2 and end up with a ton than put the first one in and know you should've done better. when you're wide with the first 2 and you can readjust and finish with a ton it's great because you know you've controlled your aim and release...

i love when you put the first 2 in the 60 and you just know the third one is going in, you can feel it before you throw it, pity it doesn't happen more often...

matty84

Just had a great game on no.1 best of 11 legs, beat level6, 5-4 after been 4-1 up at one stage:eek: but kept my composure in the decider to take out 65 with 2darts single bull tops:D:D

Heres the stats

Computer
tons=7
100+s=6
140s=1
180s=0
Highest out=40
best leg=19
worst leg=25
average=67.61
first 9=72.52
checkout%=40% (4/10)

Me
tons=11
100+s=8
140s=2
180s=1
Highest out=65
best leg=17
worst leg=25
average=68,89
first 9=67.67
checkout%=50% (5/10)


Really enjoyed this game and at 4-1 up i was averaging in the mid 70s dont think ive played so well ever plus i have noticed a marked improvement in my game since ive changed my stance slightly, instead of having my front foot vertically on the oche i now place it horizontally (toes facing the board)!Mad the way such a slight change can improve your game dramatically!

whaaames

nice darts mate, checkin' out at 50% and with a 17 darter and a 180 over 11 legs, not bad at all, it's clear to see your finishin' is what won it for you with your first 9 average lower, i'd be in and around that level myself and i always find when you're playing n01 it takes a few legs to get goin n comes back at ya like a frate train, fair play killing the 65 to win it...

about the stance, i done the exact opposite about a year ago, i now stand with the feet 90 degrees from the board n i found it steadied my trhow, funn that...

matty84

Thanks bud but do ya no what is funnier ill go the pub friday night and will throw darts nowhere near that standard its always the same so annoying, maybe have the odd 15-21 dart leg but most will go 25-30darts :mad::mad:

Kingp35

I was atrocious today in my tournament match against death1234567. I think I averaged about 51 or 52 but I have been averaging close to and over 60 lately. i had just come back from the gym an hour before so I'm using the excuse that I was tired but nothing went my way. Really had to concentrate on keeping the dart in the 20 and forget about aiming for the treble.

I hate when you have a day where nothing goes for you at all. I don't understand it at all.

whaaames

thats the thing about darts, for some reason your performance changes day to day, sometimes you're buzzin' n really feel confident goin for every target on the board n other times you couldn't hit the bull of it was the size of an apple, it's real weird...but when it's goin well n your throwing well you could throw for hours no bother, but when it's not you just wanna lob the darts out the window...