Is censorship on the increase ?

pyure

I was watching the simpsons on channel 4 the other day, the episode where apu meets his arranged bride mandula (sp?), I'm most people will know the one. Anyway, at the end of the episode homer dresses up as the hindu god to try and break up the ceremony. I've seen this episode many times on tv, but this time that particular sequence was cut out...wft is up with that ?
Is censorship beginning to creep into out tvs ? Has anyone else noticed instances of this sort of thing ?

Captain Ginger

pyure wrote: »

I was watching the simpsons on channel 4 the other day, the episode where apu meets his arranged bride mandula (sp?), I'm most people will know the one. Anyway, at the end of the episode homer dresses up as the hindu god to try and break up the ceremony. I've seen this episode many times on tv, but this time that particular sequence was cut out...wft is up with that ?
Is censorship beginning to creep into out tvs ? Has anyone else noticed instances of this sort of thing ?

Is it right at the very end? Maybe they were short on time?

stevecrow74

censorship is fcuking every ****ing where.. you cant say **** **** or anything these days.. so to those censor maniacs, you can go and ***** ****** ****ing ***** ****** and **** ****** ******** ******** ********* ****** **** alone

gixerfixer

Cant say i watch the simpsons so no idea about that incident in particular but i have noticed a general trend towards censorship on the internet in general. You tube anyone?

Grudaire

Don't forget the Twin tower episode.... haven't seen that in a while, heard they cut that scene...

taidghbaby

sa both of them episodes recently and both scenes were in them!!

you boys are just madsers!

Even a significant number of the "tom & jerry" cartoons have been censored, the ones my kids see have several scenes deleted!

Pride Fighter

Get your Kakalsh. No bowl, stick.

kirving

In the episode where the Simpsons go to Japan, Bart is on the plane with a gameboy. The flight attendant asks him to turn it off, which he does. The plane then goes into a nose-dive and the stewardess starts screaming at him to turn it on.

That scene was cut from another version of the episode.

Orion

stevecrow74 wrote: »

censorship is fcuking every ****ing where.. you cant say **** **** or anything these days.. so to those censor maniacs, you can go and ***** ****** ****ing ***** ****** and **** ****** ******** ******** ********* ****** **** alone

well that's just fucking bullshit. How dare those fucktards c****r us.

krd

I have another version of that episode. Where homers Ganesh costum is pixalated to blur it out.

Some people may have taken offense at it. Ganesh is a very big Hindu god.

All media companies are jittery after the Danish Muhammed cartoons.

Real censorship is getting worse.

Journalists and papers will print stories that they know are untrue, if it serves the needs of one of their sponsors.

They will also surpress important public interest stories to serve then need of their sponsors too.

I was talking to journalist who works for a very large media group, who own a search engine. I said I had noticed they selective supressed some news stories and sites. And her attitude was this was normal acceptable practice. That her company had their interests and needed to protect them,, the publics right to true and accurate information did not come into it.

longshanks

piss, shit, arse, wankfuck

longshanks

longshanks wrote: »

piss, shit, arse, wankfuck

There's no problem with these type of expressions, it's just things that offend people that are from different cultures that cause the problems.

Orion

ah longshanks found the [nocensor] tag

longshanks

aye he did, he was about to ask you a question when the answer appeared before him

Holsten

Fu­ckin' Ganesh eh, that guy is a crazy bast­ard!

****ing piss **** fanny bags er teabag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Nrp7cj_tM

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

****ing piss **** fanny bags er teabag

Someone who can't fucking swear!

Jigsaw

Censorship is on the increase and it stops me in my tracks. I am a very foul mouthed person. I am also very bitter and angry.

Now I hate people who needlessly swear, but sometime a swear word is the only word that will do and I resent being restricted from using it when necessary.

Orion

Jigsaw wrote: »

Now I hate people who needlessly swear

fuck you

javaboy

Cliste wrote: »

Don't forget the Twin tower episode.... haven't seen that in a while, heard they cut that scene...

That episode disappeared for a few years after 11/9 but it's back now and I've seen it shown completely uncut since. Some movies were edited/delayed at the time too (Spiderman/Collateral). I think that was more a sensitivity thing than anything else.

Blurring/cutting out Ganesh is a bit ridiculous though. I think censorship has been on the increase ever since Bertie was ousted and replaced by the benevolent General Krull. All hail Krull and his glorious new regime!

Sincerely, Little Girl

Big_Mac

[nocensor]****[/nocensor]. It doesn't ****ing work.

Anyhoo, I'm surprised with Channel 4. they are normally the last to censor anything. UTV are terrible for censoring anything and everything

Fuck - Aah, there we go

Adam

Mac****

Oh well...

Xavi6

It's mad over here. 'Friends' is severely edited at 6pm. Any reference to sex and all that is cut out. Once 7.30pm comes though it's 'Fuck' this and 'wanker' that, like one of those Roddy Doyle books Ted.

'Ride me sideways', that was another one

hussey

Xavi6 wrote: »

It's mad over here. 'Friends' is severely edited at 6pm. Any reference to sex and all that is cut out. Once 7.30pm comes though it's 'Fuck' this and 'wanker' that, like one of those Roddy Doyle books Ted.

'Ride me sideways', that was another one

Sure just last monday I heard Irene saying
"None of your fancy shit , just lob it into me boss"

Xavi6

hussey wrote: »

Sure just last monday I heard Irene saying
"None of your fancy shit , just lob it into me boss"

Yeah that was the episode where Alf was swinging around his todger and slappin her in the face with it.

They might see it in Ireland in about 6 months time.

hussey

Xavi6 wrote: »

Yeah that was the episode where Alf was swinging around his todger and slappin her in the face with it.

They might see it in Ireland in about 6 months time.

The infamous 'Turkey Slapping' episode.

Don't worry Oireland you'll get it soon

Mossy Monk

UK television censor everything. Ever watch Paramount? Irish TV is much more liberal.

Overheal

thats not as bad as america still. yea whole scenes being cut is crap but watching a movie on network television? I tried watching American History X the other night and while they dont have a problem with neo-nazi's (the sidewalk-curb thing was cut out entirely, really killed the plot for me) they really take offense to words like bullsh*t (usually replaced by bologni) and **** you replaced with screw you, or freak you, or freaking. Didnt bleep out N*gger or Jew but they bleeped out F*ck. :rolleyes:

Then they killed Braveheart for me in one line:

The almighty says "Don't change the subject just answer the fukkin bleedin question."

I lost it, and went to watch CNN. I vow to raise my kids on HBO and Cinemax

the_syco

Censorship comes in two forms.

1) State censorship. See North Korea or America for examples: government good, anyone that they don't like, bad.

2) Liberal ba$tard censorship: censor anything that's bad. Usually to please terrorists, liberals, and religons that try to limit information any way they can.

whitetrash

TV censorship will always submit to whoever complains the most. If 95% of the viewers don't mind nudity but 5% complain, it'll get investigated, channels get fined and self-censor in the future.

It's always the busy-bodies who dictate what the rest of us can watch

Cookie_Monster

whitetrash wrote: »

TV censorship will always submit to whoever complains the most. If 95% of the viewers don't mind nudity but 5% complain, it'll get investigated, channels get fined and self-censor in the future.

It's always the busy-bodies who dictate what the rest of us can watch

+1

It's quite simply really, if you dont like it then DON'T FCUKING WATCH IT!!

/rant over, goes to throw something at some busy bodies

seamus

Channel 4, E4, Sky, Paramount Comedy and loads of others often show syndicated versions of shows, most notably Friends, which have been edited to shorten the episode and to censor it for pre-watershed viewing. This allows them to fit in more advertising around the more popular shows. It is very rarely done to appease the more jittery elements of society - it's largely done to make the show more profitable.
If you can show a popular programme like Friends at 6 o'clock by censoring the word "Bastard", then you can make money through the sponsors/advertisers who are clamouring to get their ads in around it.


If you watch the shows on BBC or RTE (or Channel 6 if you have UPC), you will see the full things in their unedited glory.

I love watching an old Simpsons episode on BBC and seeing a scene which was never there before.

Mossy Monk

The BBC don't show the Simposns anymore.

faceman

Pre 9/11 there was an episode on Star Trek the next generation that was about freedom fighting terrorists. It was called "the high ground". In the episode there was a reference to the resolution of the troubles in Northern and there being a United Ireland.

It was cut on most UK station broadcasts although I know Sky showed it in full.

Prof.Badass

On paramount comedy 1 they censore out the words bitch and ass!

seriously "ass".... who finds that offensive??? Also BBC tends to beep out what i can only assume to be fcuk and the like, i think channel 4 does it sometimes too. I'm talking about shows like "QI" and "8 out of 10 cats" and the like. The weird thing is half of these shows don't have beeps, and half do. so it's not like they have to

We're lucky to be living in Ireland where words like fcuk and {unt appear regularly on rte2.

Also, we can show a close-up of a vagina in a non-surgical context (unlike the uk).......that is of course unless that hour-long tv3 "documentary" about vaginas (it was a few months back) was a complete breach of regulations.

Fighting Irish

pyure wrote: »

I was watching the simpsons on channel 4 the other day, the episode where apu meets his arranged bride mandula (sp?), I'm most people will know the one. Anyway, at the end of the episode homer dresses up as the hindu god to try and break up the ceremony. I've seen this episode many times on tv, but this time that particular sequence was cut out...wft is up with that ?
Is censorship beginning to creep into out tvs ? Has anyone else noticed instances of this sort of thing ?

Yes it is, and unless its stopped we will end up like america. You wouldn't believe the stuff you're not allowed say on the radio in the US :eek:

javaboy

vinylmesh wrote: »

On paramount comedy 1 they censore out the words bitch and ass!

I don't have a problem really with censoring "bitch" or "ass" in the likes of Scrubs on Paramount at midday but I wish they'd use a bleep instead of just silence. It's much more irritating than a beep.

Duggy747

Fighting Irish wrote: »

Yes it is, and unless its stopped we will end up like america. You wouldn't believe the stuff you're not allowed say on the radio in the US :eek:

UTV are horrendous for chopping movies up. They used to cut Robocop to pieces to the point where the action scenes made no sense.

Channel 4 still cut scenes like in Under Siege where Seagal puts a guy under a mechanical saw and it goes through his shoulder (always loved that mindless bit )

At least RTE and TG4 don't edit any shows or movies. Though I remember when TV3 where to air South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut and Natural Born Killers but due to complaints they had to pull them at the last minute and replace them with some drippy rom-coms.

I find rom-coms highly offensive, they're an insult to intelligence.

Prof.Badass

javaboy wrote: »

I don't have a problem really with censoring "bitch" or "ass" in the likes of Scrubs on Paramount at midday but I wish they'd use a bleep instead of just silence. It's much more irritating than a beep.

This is what i don't understand! they censor out mere words but they leave in bits where poeple talk about drinking and casual sex???

saying fuck on tv isn't going to have any effect on a kid whatsoever? they hear it all the time!

I don't see the logic in not allowing completely non-sexual nudity but allowing whole dialogues about casual sex.

If such censorship is really about protect children who are impressionable then surely they have their priorities mixed up.

I can tell you this much as a fact! the constant talk of casual sex that fills our tv screens is far, far more likely to have a negative impression on kids than a brief scene of someone in their natural form or hearing the word "fuck".

slipss

pyure wrote: »

I was watching the simpsons on channel 4 the other day, the episode where apu meets his arranged bride mandula (sp?), I'm most people will know the one. Anyway, at the end of the episode homer dresses up as the hindu god to try and break up the ceremony. I've seen this episode many times on tv, but this time that particular sequence was cut out...wft is up with that ?
Is censorship beginning to creep into out tvs ? Has anyone else noticed instances of this sort of thing ?

Channel 4 are the worst offenders for this, they do the same on e4 and more 4, skipping out words like bitch, sex, whore and porn. Removing entire scenes that have religious or sexual references which may be deemed offensive so that the whole story line of the particualar episode of the programme makes absalutely no sense. Kind of sad considering channel 4 was started with the intent of being an edgy controversial alternative to the mind numbing clean cut conservative censorship of the BBC. I'd say the original creaters are turning in thier graves (if they are dead).

pyure

forgot the best one - the scrubs episode with the light bulb lodged in the guys colon. saw it uncut once, and every time since every reference to it is removed...it's the central plot to the story ffs! the only parts left in are an xray in the background and everyone laughing at the end when they replace kelsos lightbulb with the dirty one. other than that nothing.

anyway the point is: as we become more multicultural is tv being softened to avoid offending the new groups in our society ?
are we heading the way of the americans where their idea of showing a movie uncut is dubbing 'bad' words with less offensive ones ?
I remember watching two movies on the tv when I was in the states - me myself irene where whole scenes were cut to the point where the movie made no sense, and the usual suspects (uncut as the station announced) which dubbed over the bad language.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i was watching the video for 'gay bar' by electric six on mtv years ago, and I remember they censored the words 'nuclear' 'war' and 'bomb'.

was nice. made me feel safe.

tbh

was watching American breakfast tv once and they had a bit on about breast cancer. They showed an anatomical picture of a woman without skin, and had her nipples (or the bit of meat where the nipple would be) blacked out. As in, they had stuck pieces of black masking tape to the picture.

Ponster

tbh wrote: »

(or the bit of meat where the nipple would be)

You sure know how to talk to a woman !

Prof.Badass

Princess Innocent Knickers wrote: »

i was watching the video for 'gay bar' by electric six on mtv years ago, and I remember they censored the words 'nuclear' 'war' and 'bomb'.

was nice. made me feel safe.

that reminds me! I was watching the video for nickelback "rockstar" i think it's called. Anyway they removed the word "drug dealer" from the line "everybody's got a drug dealer on speed dial" which is only a reference to the fact that a lot of rock stars do drugs.

But they leave in the line "we'll all stay skinny coz we just won't eat" which i see as actively encouraging anorexia. Which is worse?

DemocAnarchis

vinylmesh wrote: »

Which is worse?

Listening to Nickelback tbh

Prof.Badass

DemocAnarchis wrote: »

Listening to Nickelback tbh

lol