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Substitute for chilli

  • 02-08-2008 9:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭


    OH is allergic to chilli but is there any substitute that I could reasonably pass off for dishes that demand it?

    I want to give a trial to The Kitchen Revolution which has just arrived from Amazon in the post and lo and behold in the very first week chillie is demanded!

    Help?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Can you give us an idea of the main ingredients of the recipe ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe




  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭balon


    How about some mustard powder or wasabi for some bite? Unusual to have an allergy to chili, it's often the cure for what ails you!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Well making a chilli dish for someone who can't eat chillis won't be easy but my Allergy website that I use from time to time say :

    Chili powder - dash hot pepper sauce, cumin, and oregano.

    Though I would have thought that there would be chilis in the pepper sauce too ?


    Anyway, the recipe says to use as much or as little as you like so you can always try it with just none :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    Thanks for replying, will give those a go. I am coeliac and as I said OH is allergic to chilli but usually its the gluten that causes a problem ( although after more than ten years being diagnosed I am pretty good at substitution now). Its only now cropping up cause I do want to try out this book and stick to it as much as I can.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    If what you're after is the after burn, try Cayenne pepper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,958 ✭✭✭✭RuggieBear


    i'll echo wasabi.love the stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,784 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    nipplenuts wrote: »
    If what you're after is the after burn, try Cayenne pepper.

    Which is made from chillies & may cause a reaction.

    OP - Wasabi or mustard or maybe even white pepper would give a certain amount of heat to the dish. If you want to eat a hot dish - do a search for something that doesn't include chillies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    wasabi and ginger:) very common in hot Japanese dishes. Don't know if you can get it but Chinese Shinsen Toban Jan paste is also popular and quite hot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Sichuan peppercorns for a different type of heat - more a numbing sensation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 286 ✭✭SnowMonkey


    Minder wrote: »
    Sichuan peppercorns for a different type of heat - more a numbing sensation.


    great if you've got tooth ache


    Cianne peaper... if thats any good dunno if its made from chili but its nice...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Wantobe wrote: »
    OH is allergic to chilli but is there any substitute that I could reasonably pass off for dishes that demand it?

    I guess a lot would depend on what it is in the chilli that the OH is allergic to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    I have no idea!

    But thanks for the suggestions. I'm not familiar with wasabi- what is it/made from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,472 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Wantobe wrote: »
    I'm not familiar with wasabi- what is it/made from?
    It's a Japanese kind of horseradish, light green in colour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Alun wrote: »
    It's a Japanese kind of horseradish, light green in colour.

    It's supposed to be a Japanese kind of horseradish, light green in colour - but what passes for wasabi in the West is more often a mixture of western horseradish, mustard and a green dye. As wasabi is closely related to mustard and horseradish - the experience is very similar.

    True wasabi is slow to mature taking 3 to 4 years for the rhizome to swell to a useable size - making it expensive. It loses it's flavour very quickly when cut - which makes it difficult to process into a powder or paste. The heat from wasabi is not like chilli - it is short lived and affects the nasal passages rather than the mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Minder wrote: »
    It loses it's flavour very quickly when cut - which makes it difficult to process into a powder or paste.
    It is readily available here in Japan in paste form in plastic tubes and keeps for a long time. However, as minder hinted at, nothing you can buy can compares to real freshly ground wasabi. Its like someone stuck a fire cracker up your nose and lit it. I have seen grown men weep, a little goes a long way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,529 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Is it an allergy or an intolerance? What are the reactions?

    Given that Chilli and it's derivatives are used pretty much everywhere, if your OH has a serious reaction, you should narrow it down, as it could be quite dangerous. This will also help you to find a good substitute.

    Does the OH also react to sweet peppers/Capsicum which are from the same family as the chilli?

    Perhaps they react to an ingredient in Chilli powder, rather than fresh chillis? Chilli Powder can include things like Cinnamon, cloves, garlic, coriander, mace, butmeg, tumeric, cumin, oregano, etc.. and in some extreme cases, toxic carcinogens (remember the Sudan Red 1 colourant fiasco?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Asiaprod wrote: »
    It is readily available here in Japan in paste form in plastic tubes and keeps for a long time. However, as minder hinted at, nothing you can buy can compares to real freshly ground wasabi. Its like someone stuck a fire cracker up your nose and lit it. I have seen grown men weep, a little goes a long way.

    Is it as difficult to grow as I am led to believe? I have read of the need for gravel beds in just the right climate next to pure crystal streams..... I have also read of shoving a couple of seeds into a bucket of well draining soil and keeping it well watered. Probably a moot point as the seeds are as rare as horse feathers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Minder wrote: »
    Is it as difficult to grow as I am led to believe? I have read of the need for gravel beds in just the right climate next to pure crystal streams..... I have also read of shoving a couple of seeds into a bucket of well draining soil and keeping it well watered. Probably a moot point as the seeds are as rare as horse feathers.
    I am told it is hard to grow, and it is planted in running water. Even here where they grow it it is very expensive. But the taste.......yummy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    Thanks to every one who replied. Can confirm that cayenne pepper caused the same reaction so that's out. Tried to get wasabi today in tesco but no go. Also mirin and sake...This weeks recipes from thekitchenrevolution call for chilli again ( and mirin and sake)...may have to give up on the book!:cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Try somewhere that sells sushi (sp), they should stock wasabi.


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