Just got a court Summons for illegal plates

lotus791

keane2097 wrote: »

I've asked around - it's you.

and there was me lol not picking on an individual basis.....i guess when the shoe fits it hurts eh keane.

keane2097

lotus791 wrote: »

and there was me lol not picking on an individual basis.....i guess when the shoe fits it hurts eh keane.

Definitely.

Plug

Models-the only forum un-moderated:D

lotus791

well at least everyone got a bit of banter and thats what half the forums are missing .and lets face it ,its the most used tipic on here in months lol

Webmonkey

Plug wrote: »

Models-the only forum un-moderated:D

Considering my thread has being stuck in this dull douchebag infested part of boards for the last 5 days - I have to agree

keane2097

lotus791 wrote: »

well at least everyone got a bit of banter and thats what half the forums are missing .and lets face it ,its the most used tipic on here in months lol

I know I enjoyed it.

I applaud your attitude sir.

workaccount

keane2097 wrote: »

FYP.



According to you...

Do you notice how this conflicts with your earlier statement that "The law is the law" ?

Actually, I'm going to fix your post again in light of this:-





[X] Hilarious self-deprecation
[ ] Diliberate self-deprecation

Ok now to get back to this. The theme of this post is based on one sentence I posted by mistake but which was then edited before you even replied.

If you want to be pedantic there are old laws in this country if you google that are damn strange. There the law though - are you going to break them?

I'm not going to follow ill thought rules here there and everywhere if there pointless (eg. You have to go about 40km/h for a long distance outside Claregalway on a brand new wide road with 3 whole lanes becuase there are houses planted about the place sporadically) because quite frankly I'm not a sheep. The whole road and driver system in this country needs massive reform and most would agree (especially over on the motors forum)

keane2097

workaccount wrote: »

Ok now to get back to this. The theme of this post is based on one sentence I posted by mistake but which was then edited before you even replied.

If you want to be pedantic there are old laws in this country if you google that are damn strange. There the law though - are you going to break them?

I'm not going to follow ill thought rules here there and everywhere if there pointless (eg. You have to go about 40km/h for a long distance outside Claregalway on a brand new wide road with 3 whole lanes becuase there are houses planted about the place sporadically) because quite frankly I'm not a sheep. The whole road and driver system in this country needs massive reform and most would agree (especially over on the motors forum)

Ok all that is fine by me.

If you can finish the following paragraph to my satisfaction I'll consider the whole issue more or less closed (unless ciaran_dub decides to waddle back in and froth all over the place again):-

You think some speed limit laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. I think some license plate laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. The difference is.....

Mossin

keane2097 wrote: »

Ok all that is fine by me.

If you can finish the following paragraph to my satisfaction I'll consider the whole issue more or less closed (unless ciaran_dub decides to waddle back in and froth all over the place again):-

You think some speed limit laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. I think some license plate laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. The difference is.....

Its impossible to conceive that breaking a speed limit which can potentially lead to deaths, is a remotely similar crime as having the illegal number plates that the OP has.

keane2097

workaccount wrote: »

Oil stove for sale. Click here to view.

Top of the range headphones for sale. Click here to view.

What's your best price on the stove by the way?

KingLoser

Nobody has any problem with the Gardaí doing their job.

It's when they do it badly that the problems start. Like a previous poster said, in the North, they treat you well. Down here, if they stop you and realise they had no legit reason to, it's like they (sometimes) try their bloody hardest to justify it.

Not in Waterford though, the Gardaí here are lovely. HELLO WATERFORD GARDAÍ.

witnessmenow

Mossin wrote: »

Its impossible to conceive that breaking a speed limit which can potentially lead to deaths, is a remotely similar crime as having the illegal number plates that the OP has.

Not true i almost died when i was distracted by some ones number plates who were written in Italics :eek:









:pac::pac::pac:

Rember to 5* this thread!

Plug

Webmonkey wrote: »

Considering my thread has being stuck in this dull douchebag infested part of boards for the last 5 days - I have to agree

It wasn't always a dull douchebag infested place back in my day:(
God I remember it like yesterday.

syl77

I'm not going to follow ill thought rules here there and everywhere if there pointless (eg. You have to go about 40km/h for a long distance outside Claregalway on a brand new wide road with 3 whole lanes becuase there are houses planted about the place sporadically)

Its actually 50km/h, but that doesnt matter cause your usualy stuck in traffic when passing through it....:D

Webmonkey

syl77 wrote: »

Its actually 50km/h, but that doesnt matter cause your usualy stuck in traffic when passing through it....:D

Breaking speed limits while heavy traffic around...

..nah still not as bad as having none Arial font on my number plates or worse still not having the name of the county in Irish. :eek:

Ciaran_Dub

witnessmenow wrote: »

This thread is so just ridicolus!

So much crap, so little time to reply!

Personally I wouldn't drive with anything but standard number plates, not worth the hassle of something like this happening, but if Op get fined the guts of €2500 for having non standard number plates (full size ones) then there is something seriously wrong with the laws on our roads. According to here the max fine you can get for speeding is €800, is having dodgey number plates 3 times the crime!!? :eek:

I wouldnt be suprised if the Ops car was one of the reasons for him getting summoned. My Dad had a Lexus about 7-8 years ago and it came with non standard plates, had it for 4 years before he changed them and only changed them becuase of NCT. One gaurd mentioned to him once but said nothing about it really. And this was with rackign up serious milleage so they would have been seen plenty of times by Guards.

Ciaran you have made crap post after crap post after crap post... I've never seen someone talk so much sh1te on boards (and thats saying something!)
Welcome to my ignore list... Population YOU

Sorry you dare to critisice(sp) my posts when you just came out with the above drivel. If you are going to attack someone at least make some valid points and explain how my posts are crap!

Actually scratch that, the fact you didnt even have the decency to put together any thought induced arguements or even bothered to try and explain yourself means your opinion is worthless to me.

Just another lazy post from a nobody!

Ciaran_Dub

keane2097 wrote: »

Ok all that is fine by me.

If you can finish the following paragraph to my satisfaction I'll consider the whole issue more or less closed (unless ciaran_dub decides to waddle back in and froth all over the place again):-

You think some speed limit laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. I think some license plate laws are stupid and decide not to abide by them. The difference is.....

Didnt realise I needed your permission to post on these boards? Are you just trying to wind people up?

Plug

The moderator hasn't been active in 40 days:D
I love this thread, 5 stars.

Webmonkey

Plug wrote: »

The moderator hasn't been active in 40 days:D
I love this thread, 5 stars.

Models has now become the new Thunderdome

coolwings

Thunderdome! Thunderdome! Thunderdome! ......

witnessmenow

I'd have a few choice comments to make if it was moved there

EDIT:
The 'dome is now closed... we will have to make do here so :P

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Didnt realise I needed your permission to post on these boards?

The question mark at the end of this sentence confuses me greatly. Is this a question? A statement? Just more frothing? I've tried saying it out loud a few times intoning it differently. Going up in pitch at the end of it is what's implied by the question mark, but it just sounds strange to me. I don't know what to think...

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Are you just trying to wind people up?

No way dude, I'm standing up for what I believe in.

Also,

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

you dare to critisice(sp) my posts

This is some good stuff man. I have a vision of you saying this in a deep, booming, menacing voice - something like the bad guy from Legend.

keane2097

Just for anyone who has put Mister dub on their ignore list - this is what he said to witnessmenow.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Sorry you dare to critisice(sp) my posts when you just came out with the above drivel. If you are going to attack someone at least make some valid points and explain how my posts are crap!

Actually scratch that, the fact you didnt even have the decency to put together any thought induced arguements or even bothered to try and explain yourself means your opinion is worthless to me.

Just another lazy post from a nobody!

witnessmenow

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Sorry you dare to critisice(sp) my posts when you just came out with the above drivel. If you are going to attack someone at least make some valid points and explain how my posts are crap!

Actually scratch that, the fact you didnt even have the decency to put together any thought induced arguements or even bothered to try and explain yourself means your opinion is worthless to me.

Just another lazy post from a nobody!

You want my argument, fine

Correct me if i'm wrong. the way you talk in your posts has "i'm a guard" written all over it.

So someone comes on here and criticises how a guard handled himself and you cant take it, in your mind there is no conceivable way the cop could have handled himself badly, sure the Op must be an "idiot"

you seemed to think it was alright for the cop to act even more like a dickhead when the op looks at his friend... your right maybe that was a sign to kill the cop and dump his body in the nearest lake or maybe (just maybe) the op was nervous and didn't know where to look.

And then it has been suggested by some posters (myself included) that the Ops car might have had an impact on how the guard treated him, again you seem to be deeply offended by the notion of this... of course there is possibility that this might have been the case, sure I already gave you an example that my Dad was driving a car for 4 years with non standard plates and basically nothing was said to him (and he would have driven a lot 80,000+ miles) , ops car isnt even that old and he's getting court summoned for it.

Maybe i'm wrong, but to me you seem like another ****ing guard on a power trip.

keane2097

witnessmenow wrote: »

Maybe i'm wrong, but to me you seem like another ****ing guard on a power trip.

You are wrong. He's not a guard - this is him:-



And this is him when he's in good form:-

workaccount

keane2097 wrote: »

You are wrong. He's not a guard - this is him:-



And this is him when he's in good form:-

Give the lad a chance to reply now. What is the point of this? I'm sure some of your posts could be pulled apart for ignorance and insulting which puts you at the same level you think he is.

keane2097

workaccount wrote: »

What is the point of this?

I thought it was funny...

keane2097

I suppose I should point out, for the record, that I do not think Ciaran_dub is the devil-like villain from the movie Legend.

T-Maxx

Goes to prove that nothing goes OT as a thread in the models forum...

Fobiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..........................

Webmonkey

Fobia has been dead for the last few months.

Edit - actually he more than likely killed himself.

Ciaran_Dub

witnessmenow wrote: »

You want my argument, fine

Correct me if i'm wrong. the way you talk in your posts has "i'm a guard" written all over it.

So someone comes on here and criticises how a guard handled himself and you cant take it, in your mind there is no conceivable way the cop could have handled himself badly, sure the Op must be an "idiot"

you seemed to think it was alright for the cop to act even more like a dickhead when the op looks at his friend... your right maybe that was a sign to kill the cop and dump his body in the nearest lake or maybe (just maybe) the op was nervous and didn't know where to look.

And then it has been suggested by some posters (myself included) that the Ops car might have had an impact on how the guard treated him, again you seem to be deeply offended by the notion of this... of course there is possibility that this might have been the case, sure I already gave you an example that my Dad was driving a car for 4 years with non standard plates and basically nothing was said to him (and he would have driven a lot 80,000+ miles) , ops car isnt even that old and he's getting court summoned for it.

Maybe i'm wrong, but to me you seem like another ****ing guard on a power trip.

I was tempted not to read beyond "Correct me if i'm wrong. the way you talk in your posts has "i'm a guard" written all over it." Yes I will correct you I am not a member of An Garda Siochana, nor was my father or any family member or friend. So now that we got that incorrect presumption out of the way the arguement kinda ends there. You have just proved what I originally thought of you. You made presumptions instead of dealing with facts. I certainly dealt with more facts in my post then any of yours.

You seem to think that because daddy drove his Lexus for 4 plus years and nothing happened that it is incredulous that anyone is caught on illegal plates. My brother in law drove on illegal plates for less then a year, was pulled once by a cop at Dublin Airport who ordered him to change them he was then pulled by another Garda within a month near the border who told him he had X amount of days to change them and had to prove that he did. On this he changed them. So again you make presumptions which are wrong. Now do me a favour and get your facts straight before you reply to any of my posts again.

And I never condemned nor condoned the Garda in question for how he treated the OP what I did was trying to give a balanced few on the subject. Neither you nor I were in the car but you are going by the OP's description of the situation (No offence to the OP but I think he now understand where I was coming from what I mention all this). Now please do me a favour drop billy big bollix attitude and have a reasonable discussion/debate in future.

And I am still looking for evidence of how my posts where crap or ill informed!

Keane, my apologiesfor putting a ? instead of a ! but when you have a screaming 6 month old baby looking for attention there is not always time to proof read posts no matter how short. Now stop trying to be some kind of keyboard warrior and stop trying to wind people up like your friend above try and have a common sense adult debate some time you would be amazed how it might expand your mind!

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Keane, my apologiesfor putting a ? instead of a ! but when you have a screaming 6 month old baby looking for attention there is not always time to proof read posts no matter how short.

I was wondering why you seem so angry all the time...

Ciaran_Dub

keane2097 wrote: »

I was wondering why you seem so angry all the time...

You just cant come up with a sensible arguement. It's either childish/ignorant/inuslting with you. If you want I will go down that root with you but I am more of man than you could ever hope to be. Now leave it there.

And why would having a kid make me angry? Again another lazy ill informed postfrom another nobody

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

You just won't come up with a sensible arguement.

Fixed your post - you're making it too easy this way. If you'd stop being so excitable and agitated your posts would seem less hilarious to people like me and I'd be forced to actually retort.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Now leave it there.

Okiedoke, we'll leave it there so.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

And why would having a kid make me angry?

Well I suppose it shouldn't really, but you're using it as an excuse for your posts' other shortcomings, so I assumed your inability to control your aggression and irritation could also be blamed on your child.

I now see that this was a presumption rather than a fact and that I shouldn't have said it. I withdraw the comment forthwith and hang my head in shame.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Again another lazy ill informed postfrom another nobody

Now here you've simply slipped into the realm of the absurd. This is the interwebs man - everybody's a nobody! Like, really, what are you even talking about here? What makes me a nobody? Are you a nobody? If not, have you always been a somebody or did you start out being a nobody as well? Is there a step-by-step guide on transitioning from being a nobody to a somebody? Is there a judging panel that ultimately decides what my classification is in terms of bodiness?

Actually I've noticed that this is the second time (at least) that you've called someone a nobody in this thread. In light of that fact the answers to the above questions become even more important - this place is clearly crawling with nobodies and only you, it seems, can help us.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

If you want I will go down that root with you but I am more of man than you could ever hope to be.

More of the same stupid bull**** here. What do you even mean by "more of a man"? You're taller? Probably, I'm not that tall so you've got me there.

I hope, on reflection, you will be able to see how ridiculous that statement is considering you've made it about a person you've never seen, never met or can even reliably verify the gender of. Really, I can't actually believe an adult would make that statement without it being a joke of some sort.

Also, if you use Firefox you can get a spell-check add-on for free.

Ciaran_Dub

keane2097 wrote: »

Fixed your post - you're making it too easy this way. If you'd stop being so excitable and agitated your posts would seem less hilarious to people like me and I'd be forced to actually retort.



Okiedoke, we'll leave it there so.






Well I suppose it shouldn't really, but you're using it as an excuse for your posts' other shortcomings, so I assumed your inability to control your aggression and irritation could also be blamed on your child.

I now see that this was a presumption rather than a fact and that I shouldn't have said it. I withdraw the comment forthwith and hang my head in shame.



Now here you've simply slipped into the realm of the absurd. This is the interwebs man - everybody's a nobody! Like, really, what are you even talking about here? What makes me a nobody? Are you a nobody? If not, have you always been a somebody or did you start out being a nobody as well? Is there a step-by-step guide on transitioning from being a nobody to a somebody? Is there a judging panel that ultimately decides what my classification is in terms of bodiness?

Actually I've noticed that this is the second time (at least) that you've called someone a nobody in this thread. In light of that fact the answers to the above questions become even more important - this place is clearly crawling with nobodies and only you, it seems, can help us.



More of the same stupid bull**** here. What do you even mean by "more of a man"? You're taller? Probably, I'm not that tall so you've got me there.

I hope, on reflection, you will be able to see how ridiculous that statement is considering you've made it about a person you've never seen, never met or can even reliably verify the gender of. Really, I can't actually believe an adult would make that statement without it being a joke of some sort.

Also, if you use Firefox you can get a spell-check add-on for free.

I could not be bothered to read more of your contrived drivel. Either say something to add to the discussion of the thread or keep your childish goading to yourself.

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

I could not be bothered to read more of your contrived drivel. Either say something to add to the discussion of the thread or keep your childish goading to yourself.

Is this code for "I cannot justify my previous comments as they are nonsensical"?

Seriously, have a go:-

keane2097 wrote: »

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Again another lazy ill informed postfrom another nobody

Now here you've simply slipped into the realm of the absurd. This is the interwebs man - everybody's a nobody! Like, really, what are you even talking about here? What makes me a nobody? Are you a nobody? If not, have you always been a somebody or did you start out being a nobody as well? Is there a step-by-step guide on transitioning from being a nobody to a somebody? Is there a judging panel that ultimately decides what my classification is in terms of bodiness?

Actually I've noticed that this is the second time (at least) that you've called someone a nobody in this thread. In light of that fact the answers to the above questions become even more important - this place is clearly crawling with nobodies and only you, it seems, can help us.

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

If you want I will go down that root with you but I am more of man than you could ever hope to be.

More of the same stupid bull**** here. What do you even mean by "more of a man"? You're taller? Probably, I'm not that tall so you've got me there.

I hope, on reflection, you will be able to see how ridiculous that statement is considering you've made it about a person you've never seen, never met or can even reliably verify the gender of. Really, I can't actually believe an adult would make that statement without it being a joke of some sort.

Ciaran_Dub

keane2097 wrote: »

Is this code for "I cannot justify my previous comments as they are nonsensical"?

Seriously, have a go:-

So now you want to have an adult conversation/debate! Well your not worth it my humble opinion. So no I wont rise to you anymore.

Can you justify any of your previous posts? I think not.

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

So now you want to have an adult conversation/debate! Well your not worth it my humble opinion. So no I wont rise to you anymore.

I think everyone's going to see that as you conceding victory to me old boy.

Not saying I do, but everyone else will...

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

Now stop trying to be some kind of keyboard warrior and stop trying to wind people up like your friend above try and have a common sense adult debate some time you would be amazed how it might expand your mind!

I assume this was you blowing smoke right? As soon as your towering intellect is challenged somewhat you conveniently decide you're not playing anymore.

Well, take your ball and run away home imo.

FuzzyWuzzyWazza

Jesus lads, will both of ye just stop!

workaccount

keane2097 wrote: »

I think everyone's going to see that as you conceding victory to me old boy.

I doubt anyone is even following this petty cross fire between the two of you.

Stop bickering.

Ciaran_Dub

keane2097 wrote: »

I think everyone's going to see that as you conceding victory to me old boy.

Not saying I do, but everyone else will...



I assume this was you blowing smoke right? As soon as your towering intellect is challenged somewhat you conveniently decide you're not playing anymore.

Well, take your ball and run away home imo.

By all means think what ever way you like. You have added nothing to the original discussion except attack people other then myself (re your first post)and bring the thread down to this level but well done for that and showing how little intelligence you have.

To be honest I think the best thing that can happen to this thread is it is locked because it has gone so far off topic at this stage.

keane2097

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

well done for that and showing how little intelligence you have.

I might not be very intelligent, but I know how to spot a bully - and you've proven yourself to be one admirably in this thread.

You started off by laying into the OP, continuing to call him an idiot long after he accepted his wrongdoing in the incident. Then as soon as somebody turns the tables and starts picking on you you cry off for a foul, using your baby (!?) as an excuse for some of your nonsensical posts, and finally refusing to answer any hard questions (even though you've been asking for them for about three pages).

This thread was going great for you for a while - you were able to pound away at webmonkey, but as soon as you met a small bit of resistance you did what bullies always do and started crying.

Now you're calling for the mods to lock the thread - why don't you tell your mom about it as well?

keane2097

workaccount wrote: »

I doubt anyone is even following this petty cross fire between the two of you.

Besides you I guess.

Mossin

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

You seem to think that because daddy drove his Lexus for 4 plus years and nothing happened that it is incredulous that anyone is caught on illegal plates. My brother in law drove on illegal plates for less then a year, was pulled once by a cop at Dublin Airport who ordered him to change them he was then pulled by another Garda within a month near the border who told him he had X amount of days to change them and had to prove that he did. On this he changed them. So again you make presumptions which are wrong. Now do me a favour and get your facts straight before you reply to any of my posts again.

Wait a second!

The OP was giving out about getting summonsed for having illegal number plates, and you told him to stop his bickering and that it was his own fault that he got caught and to take the punishment. Yet you can come on here and say how your brother-in-law got caught for the same "crime" and yet he was given the leniency of being given X number of days to change his plates. Double standards of the Gardai is what drives people so mad in this country.
As for Witnessmenow's dad driving his Lexus without being caught, thats just lucky. It may be because its a Lexus, and not the "boy-racer" car type like that of the OP. Which is another reason the OP was pissed off.

FuzzyWuzzyWazza wrote: »

Jesus lads, will both of ye just stop!

Why? I think its entertaining.

workaccount wrote: »

I doubt anyone is even following this petty cross fire between the two of you.

Stop bickering.

I'm following it!

Ciaran_Dub wrote: »

To be honest I think the best thing that can happen to this thread is it is locked because it has gone so far off topic at this stage.

I've attempted to bring some of the conversation back on topic.

Webmonkey

KingLoser wrote:

It's when they do it badly that the problems start. Like a previous poster said, in the North, they treat you well. Down here, if they stop you and realise they had no legit reason to, it's like they (sometimes) try their bloody hardest to justify it.

This is my point - the power is going to a lot of Gardai's Heads.

witnessmenow wrote:

you seemed to think it was alright for the cop to act even more like a dickhead when the op looks at his friend... your right maybe that was a sign to kill the cop and dump his body in the nearest lake or maybe (just maybe) the op was nervous and didn't know where to look.

What was worse is that it wasn't even when he was talking to me - it was when he looked in through the windscreen while having a look to find something to grill me on.

witnesmenow wrote:

And then it has been suggested by some posters (myself included) that the Ops car might have had an impact on how the guard treated him, again you seem to be deeply offended by the notion of this... of course there is possibility that this might have been the case, sure I already gave you an example that my Dad was driving a car for 4 years with non standard plates and basically nothing was said to him (and he would have driven a lot 80,000+ miles) , ops car isnt even that old and he's getting court summoned for it.

Ciaran Dub, I still stand by this - I am sick of getting followed by the Gaurds every second month because of the car. It clearly was a factor.

Ciaran_Dub wrote:

And I never condemned nor condoned the Garda in question for how he treated the OP what I did was trying to give a balanced few on the subject.

I still disagree here, you clearly had it in for me thinking I was some typical boy racer.

Ciaran_Dub wrote:

(No offence to the OP but I think he now understand where I was coming from what I mention all this).

Not really no :rolleyes: - you jumped to too many conclusions too quickly.


I'm sorry but just because I backed down doesn't mean I accepted what the Gaurd done as fair and just - it was far from it. I have being talking to two gaurds since and they said It wasn't acceptable. He should at least have given me the opportunity to change them before getting a Summons.

Double standards of the Gardai is what drives people so mad in this country.

I have to agree, its a disgrace.

keane2097

Webmonkey wrote: »

This is my point - the power is going to a lot of Gardai's Heads.


What was worse is that it wasn't even when he was talking to me - it was when he looked in through the windscreen while having a look to find something to grill me on.



Ciaran Dub, I still stand by this - I am sick of getting followed by the Gaurds every second month because of the car. It clearly was a factor.



I still disagree here, you clearly had it in for me thinking I was some typical boy racer.



Not really no :rolleyes: - you jumped to too many conclusions too quickly.


I'm sorry but just because I backed down doesn't mean I accepted what the Gaurd done as fair and just - it was far from it. I have being talking to two gaurds since and they said It wasn't acceptable. He should at least have given me the opportunity to change them before getting a Summons.


I have to agree, its a disgrace.

Uh-oh - somebody's about to get called an idiot again...

TheNog

Mossin wrote: »

Double standards of the Gardai is what drives people so mad in this country.

There was no double standards here only two options to the same end. One given the chance to change the plates and one to court with both options ending with the proper plates on a car.

Webmonkey wrote: »

This is my point - the power is going to a lot of Gardai's Heads.

There is no evidence of power going to anyone's head. The guard simply used his power to summons a person who was not comply with traffic laws.

Webmonkey wrote: »

Ciaran Dub, I still stand by this - I am sick of getting followed by the Gaurds every second month because of the car. It clearly was a factor.

Why is it every second month only? Maybe there is something about your driving or maybe the previous owner of the car that draws the attention of the Gardai?

Webmonkey wrote: »

I'm sorry but just because I backed down doesn't mean I accepted what the Gaurd done as fair and just - it was far from it. I have being talking to two gaurds since and they said It wasn't acceptable. He should at least have given me the opportunity to change them before getting a Summons.

But did the guards you spoke to tell that the guard was quite entitled to summons you. It may not have been what they would have done but it is acceptable to do. The guard used his discretion.
Traffic laws state that all vehicles must have the legal registration plates but it does not say anywhere that drivers should be given a chance to change them so the guard did act within the law.
Having said that I wouldnt have summonsed you for it but have given you a chance to change and display them but thats my opinion, not the next guard you will meet.

keane2097

TheNog wrote: »

Traffic laws state that all vehicles must have the legal registration plates but it does not say anywhere that drivers should be given a chance to change them so the guard did act within the law.
Having said that I wouldnt have summonsed you for it but have given you a chance to change and display them but thats my opinion, not the next guard you will meet.

I think webmonkey knows that the guard was within his rights to stop him, summons him etc over having illegal plates - he's stated several times that he understands that he is at fault for having them.

His issue (correct me if I'm wrong webmonkey) was that the guard's behaviour towards him was out of order, not that he shouldn't have been in trouble in the first place.

The idea that you can't look at the person sitting in the passenger seat because a guard is walking around your car seems rather absurd to me, and the guard giving a driver grief over something like that does smack of a power trip to me.

As a guard yourself, would you reprimand a driver for looking at his passenger while you inspected the outside of the vehicle? I sincerely doubt looking at a passenger is mentioned in any laws as something a driver can't do in a situation like this!

TheNog wrote: »

There was no double standards here only two options to the same end. One given the chance to change the plates and one to court with both options ending with the proper plates on a car.

You don't think it's a double standard that one driver is given the oppertunity to simply change his plates himself while the next driver is forced to appear in court for the exact same offence?

Webmonkey

TheNog wrote:

There is no evidence of power going to anyone's head. The guard simply used his power to summons a person who was not comply with traffic laws.

Fair enough he had the right to summons me but the nature in which he done it was all wrong.

TheNog wrote:

Why is it every second month only? Maybe there is something about your driving or maybe the previous owner of the car that draws the attention of the Gardai?

My driving style is perfect thank you very much - I didn't mean literally every 2 month - just it often happens that they would follow me until they are at the border of their district then turn back - If its to intimidate me now or not I don't know.

TheNog wrote:

But did the guards you spoke to tell that the guard was quite entitled to summons you. It may not have been what they would have done but it is acceptable to do. The guard used his discretion.

Again I am not denying that he didn't have a write to summons me - Christ I accept that no problem - fair enough, though a fine would be nice first. Again its the way he approached the whole thing.

TheNog wrote:

Having said that I wouldnt have summonsed you for it but have given you a chance to change and display them but thats my opinion, not the next guard you will meet.

I believe most would be same as that considering nothing else is wrong with the car. And I am not one of those guys that think having illegal number plates is cool in anyway, they just happened to come with the car so I left them.

I believe the Gaurd in question was having a bad day.

keane2097 wrote:

His issue (correct me if I'm wrong webmonkey) was that the guard's behavior towards him was out of order, not that he shouldn't have been in trouble in the first place.

Least someone is hearing me.

As well I am not being precious here - I just pointing out that some gaurds need to develop on their people skills, or even if they having a bad day that they should still speak professionally and get on with their job - Give me the summons and leave it at that.

sharkDawg

Webmonkey, I think its time to give the Garda Ombudsman a call or at least get him in on this thread.