All Ireland 1/4 finals 2008

Kingp35

Kingp35 wrote: »

Just heard on the news that the Dublin Tyrone game is a stand alone fixture and will be played on Saturday the 16th.

Delighted now, no mad scramble for tickets. There would have been killings at my club on Thursday!

Sweet! I'd have missed it if it was next weekend, so roll on the 16th.

Flukey

Kingp35 wrote:

Delighted now, no mad scramble for tickets.

When it comes to Dublin in the championship, even as a single header, there'll still be a mad scramble for tickets. Most will get sorted, but you'll have that scramble anyway.

Being a single header, on the day it will be a bit tougher getting into the stadium. With no early fixture to draw some of the crowd in earlier, much more people will be arriving at the same time, creating queues at the stiles and making it slower to get in. As usual, we'll have the Dublin fans getting blamed for it although it will, as usual, not be their fault.

mise_me_fein

Cannot believe this thread was opened with predictions for the draw.........what the fcuk???

Anyway, since I think Dublin are going to win the All Ireland this year, I have to back them to beat Tyrone.

Other winners, Kerry, Kildare and Armagh......I just fancy Kildare for some reason to do well.

eigrod

Flukey wrote: »

When it comes to Dublin in the championship, even as a single header, there'll still be a mad scramble for tickets. Most will get sorted, but you'll have that scramble anyway.

Being a single header, on the day it will be a bit tougher getting into the stadium. With no early fixture to draw some of the crowd in earlier, much more people will be arriving at the same time, creating queues at the stiles and making it slower to get in. As usual, we'll have the Dublin fans getting blamed for it although it will, as usual, not be their fault.

The GAA should be a bit more creative. They should get some of the out-of-work girls from Stringfellows, Parnell St to perform on a specially erected stage between the two 45 metre lines from 2.30 to 3.30. That might get the male fans out of the pub early anyway



I'll get me coat............

Denis Irwin

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

Dublin will be far from happy. Their training and preparation was geared towards playing on the 9th. Moving the game back a week will disrupt everything and Tyrone will have an extra week to prepare and get players fit :mad:

In fairness even though Pillar would have been preparing for the 9th. It would have had to crossed his mind that if their had of been a draw in any of the 3rd round qualifiers and we had been drawn to play the winners of the drawn game then our 1/4 final would have had to be put back til the 16th.

Yavvy

eigrod wrote: »

The GAA should be a bit more creative. They should get some of the out-of-work girls from Stringfellows, Parnell St to perform on a specially erected stage between the two 45 metre lines from 2.30 to 3.30. That might get the male fans out of the pub early anyway



I'll get me coat............

i like it... but unless they are actually offering free lappers under the stands they its not going to get the boozers out of the boozer.

Certainly a decent cheerleading squad a la Basketball would be most welcome :cool:

juvenal

Flukey wrote: »

Being a single header, on the day it will be a bit tougher getting into the stadium. With no early fixture to draw some of the crowd in earlier, much more people will be arriving at the same time, creating queues at the stiles and making it slower to get in. As usual, we'll have the Dublin fans getting blamed for it although it will, as usual, not be their fault.

TBH, it wouldn't make a damn difference to some of the Dublin fans if there was an early fixture to "draw the fans in".

No matter what, there's the usual band of Dublin supporters who waltz into the ground several minutes after throw-in. I know it myself, some of my close friends won't leave Gill's pub on the NCR until throw-in has happened:(

I usually am in the Hill ~20mins before throw-in if there's no early game, and you can see from the attendance, that it's fair weather Dublin fans that are usually to blame for the delay. Look at any pub in Ballybough, Drumcondra or the inner city and you'll see why the game is delayed.

If people can't be bothered to get into the stadium with plenty of time to spare, then it's their fault, not the GAA's for not putting on a pre-game entertainment line-up!

patmac

Well I'm going to say it I hope Dublin win there said it now, Christ that was difficult, heading to Canada that day so won't be able to see the game but the more I see of Tyrone this year the less I like them. Hope Galway win but unlikely, Cork should beat Kildare and Armagh Wexford. So we could have a Tyrone/Armagh and Kerry/Cork semi-finals which would be rather boring so lets hope it doesn't happen.

Flukey

juvenal wrote: »

TBH, it wouldn't make a damn difference to some of the Dublin fans if there was an early fixture to "draw the fans in".

No matter what, there's the usual band of Dublin supporters who waltz into the ground several minutes after throw-in.

Along with those fans there are always a sizeable amount of fans of the opposing team too. It is not exclusively Dublin fans as often made out. Even if they do get in earlier, you are still going to have the big queues because the span of time for entry to the stadium will be much shorter. Any time there is a single fixture, no matter what the venue or competing teams, more people arrive in over a shorter time period and that has an impact on the speed that they can get through the stiles.

Denis Irwin

Flukey wrote: »

Along with those fans there are always a sizeable amount of fans of the opposing team too. It is not exclusively Dublin fans as often made out. Even if they do get in earlier, you are still going to have the big queues because the span of time for entry to the stadium will be much shorter. Any time there is a single fixture, no matter what the venue or competing teams, more people arrive in over a shorter time period and that has an impact on the speed that they can get through the stiles.

I've actually found that the past number of times that the throw in has been delayed it's been a 2pm throw in but when it's a 4pm throw in the game nearly always started on time.

juvenal

Flukey wrote: »

Along with those fans there are always a sizeable amount of fans of the opposing team too. It is not exclusively Dublin fans as often made out. Even if they do get in earlier, you are still going to have the big queues because the span of time for entry to the stadium will be much shorter. Any time there is a single fixture, no matter what the venue or competing teams, more people arrive in over a shorter time period and that has an impact on the speed that they can get through the stiles.

Granted of course it's not exclusively Dubs, but it's fair to say that the majority of late-comers are locals.

If you're travelling from the country, the chances are you're going to be in Dublin in plenty of time. I feel that the Dublin fans are more to blame for the delay, as they're taking it for granted that the stadium "is only around the corner". That being said, there's latecomers from all sides, but as with the general population, there'll be a higher proportion of Dubliners.

That, and the fact that some of the bandwagon gang are out more on the píss for the day than actually following their team.

Anyway, hopefully there'll be no such problems come Saturday week!

Flukey

Hopefully there won't be problems on Saturday week, but I can see it and see the Dublin fans getting the blame. As Juvenal rightly pointed out, there is a bigger amount of fans, so while proportionately it would be same amount of latecomers, it seems that there are more late. It is also true to say that not all Dublin fans live in Dublin and a lot of fans of the other counties actually do. For example, for the Leinster Football Final, a lot of the people coming up from Wexford were in fact Dubliners that live there. Lots of rival fans often come up the day before too, so they don't have that far to travel come the day of the match. Stereotypes and assumptions of and from all sides run through the fans of various counties.

sam34

Flukey wrote: »

Along with those fans there are always a sizeable amount of fans of the opposing team too. It is not exclusively Dublin fans as often made out. Even if they do get in earlier, you are still going to have the big queues because the span of time for entry to the stadium will be much shorter. Any time there is a single fixture, no matter what the venue or competing teams, more people arrive in over a shorter time period and that has an impact on the speed that they can get through the stiles.

i've been at a lot of all-ireland finals, when croker is packed to 82k capacity, and yet these 82000 people generally get there in time. granted a few will be late, but not sufficient quantity to delay the start of the match.

juvenal

sam34 wrote: »

i've been at a lot of all-ireland finals, when croker is packed to 82k capacity, and yet these 82000 people generally get there in time. granted a few will be late, but not sufficient quantity to delay the start of the match.

Yes, although you'll find far less casual observers and fair weather fans at an All-Ireland Final as tickets are far more difficult to come by.

As the season progresses, there'll be less neutrals, less tourists (yes they do go to Croke Park to see our national game!), and less people inclined to miss the opening stages of the match. As the tickets become harder to come by, less people who pop up to Croker to spend an afternoon after a quick visit to Ticketmaster will be in attendance.

If I recall correctly, it's usually in the opening rounds of the championship that there's a problem, no?

As Flukey also pointed out, there's more Dublin fans now living in the pale around Meath, Kildare, Wicklow; sometimes even coming from Louth! While it may be usually a saunter into the city on Sunday, match crowds coupled with less parking and general congestion make it more challenging to reach the ground before kick-off.

It's up to the supporters of all teams to ensure that they're in their seat/position in plenty of time, not sitting in traffic or sipping a pint in the local! The GAA shouldn't have to provide an incentive for people to be on time, the throw-in is well advertised and printed on the ticket!

Anyway, this is getting off topic, mea cupla

Flukey

Sam34, between All-Ireland Senior Hurling and Senior Football Finals, I've been to over 50. As Juvenal says, you get a different kind of fan at the finals. While there are a lot of sunshine supporters there, given the way tickets are distributed, it is a lot harder for them to get tickets. So you have a lot of real GAA fans there, ones who want to be in to see the matches. You'll still get a lot of latecomers on final days though. The 2000 Football Final replay between Kerry and Galway was played on a Saturday. This resulted in a huge volume of traffic in the city and unfortunately I missed the start of the match. Getting back to the quarter finals, I don't think that next Saturday's Kerry and Galway match will prove to be as problematical. Unlike 2000, I hope that Galway win. If Kerry can keep a tight rein on Padraig Joyce in particular, it will be very difficult for Galway.

CyberDave

Flukey wrote: »

Unlike 2000, I hope that Galway win. If Kerry can keep a tight rein on Padraig Joyce in particular, it will be very difficult for Galway.

This is the worst draw for Galway possible. Worse than Tyrone. I think Kerry will just have too much for us (Galway). Galway still have a poor midfield, I don't think there will be as much difference as the post below suggests though:

Exocet wrote: »

Quater Final Predictions:
Cork by 9
Dublin by 3
Armagh by 10
Kerry by 7

Darragh O'Se may be getting on in years but he will still have the measure of Cullinane or Coleman. Joyce is the man that makes Galway tick(despite also getting on in years), but without a supply of ball he won't be much use. I know the league isn't the same but when the two teams met earlier in the year. Kerry were the better team and I don't expect much to have changed even if both teams have progressed since then. Plus factors for Galway is that Cooper wasn't his brilliant best against Monaghan and Galvins absence. The minuses far outweigh the pluses. I'd love it to be otherwise but I think they will have too much for Galway, maybe 3/4 points in it in the end.

Nalced_irl

My predictions:
Cork by 6
Dublin by 2
Armagh by 5
Kerry by 3

I would love to have drawn Kerry tbh. I think they are there for the taking at the moment and if they had either drawn Dublin or Armagh, they would more than likely be on their way out, if not in the quarters, in the semis as they would have 2 very tough games in a row for a depleated squad. As it stands, they will meet neither Armagh or Dublin until the final which i think is a huge relief for them. I expect they will beat Galway and Cork will be a tough one to call presuming Cork get through also. I will personally stick with the champo winner coming from what i think will be a Dublin v Armagh Semi Final but i could not possibly tell who would win that game. Tyrone look like they are a much lesser team than they were in the last few years but to be honest they lift themselves for games like this so im not overly confident. I think we SHOULD beat them this year as i think we can match them physically and also outdo them on fitness and stamina but you really never know with Tyrone.

CyberDave

Nalced_irl wrote: »

I think we SHOULD beat them this year as i think we can match them physically and also outdo them on fitness and stamina but you really never know with Tyrone.

I agree with the above facts I have noticed the improvement in the Dubs, I guess it boils down to the question, Can the Dubs be more cynical than Tyrone? because this is what I think will be the difference in the end.

Yavvy

CyberDave wrote: »

Can the Dubs be more cynical than Tyrone?

Oh God yeah...

but I think it will actually be Discipline that wins the game for the Dubs. Pillar and Clarke are big fans of "take your hit like a man" . they wouldn't stand for sly retaliation at this stage, there is too much to loose. Sure the dubs will be very very Physical and Tyrone wont get the opportunity to boss them as much. And the players back each other up very well, also most of them should have the cop on I hope. Dublin have squandered or nearly squandered games due to indiscipline in the past... I think they are coping on ( conveniently I have totally forgotten about meath... cause well its Meath, in Parnell park in winter)

blackbelt

If the Dubs do start mopping the floor with Tyrone,I can see Tyrone using some sort of distraction to break the momentum and regain their composure.Either that or the handbags will start.This seems to be a feature of most Dublin-Tyrone games.It is up to Dublin to not let this happen.Stand their ground but don't let themselves get too involved and concentrate on the game and not the one-upmanship.

In other years,Tyrone would use this and gain the upper hand.As Alany has said,Dublin will have copped on to past mistakes.I just hope we don't see the pushing and shoving and see each team just concentrate on playing the better football.

Kavinsky

What is the story with tickets for saturday (The wexford-armagh match) there is nothing on ticketmaster would I be able to get a ticket at the turnstiles? Thanks.

will1977

Flukey wrote: »

Hopefully there won't be problems on Saturday week, but I can see it and see the Dublin fans getting the blame. As Juvenal rightly pointed out, there is a bigger amount of fans, so while proportionately it would be same amount of latecomers, it seems that there are more late. It is also true to say that not all Dublin fans live in Dublin and a lot of fans of the other counties actually do. For example, for the Leinster Football Final, a lot of the people coming up from Wexford were in fact Dubliners that live there. Lots of rival fans often come up the day before too, so they don't have that far to travel come the day of the match. Stereotypes and assumptions of and from all sides run through the fans of various counties.

When it comes to Dublin in the championship, even as a single header, there'll still be a mad scramble for tickets. Most will get sorted, but you'll have that scramble anyway.

Being a single header, on the day it will be a bit tougher getting into the stadium. With no early fixture to draw some of the crowd in earlier, much more people will be arriving at the same time, creating queues at the stiles and making it slower to get in. As usual, we'll have the Dublin fans getting blamed for it although it will, as usual, not be their fault.

Rubbish ! COMPLETE RUBBISH. Bottom line is get there in time. No excuse. Why are none of the soccer or rugby matches delayed when its being filled from all over the country ? If they know there are going to be quays at the turnstiles get there earlier GET OUT OF THE PUB AND GET IN ON TIME !!!!

twenty8

As a Kildare man reading this I am delighted. Everyone seems to have completely written off Kildare's chances.

You should remember that Kildare are match sharp now after playing 3 games in a row. They mightn't have shook the world with their wins - but you can only beat what is in front of you - and Kildare have done that well.

Cork are no great shakes. People forget that Cork were 0-9 to 0-12 down with only a few minutes left against Limerick before they got 2 late goals. And of course there was the miracle of the Munster Football final. That is the only 2 games that Cork have played this year and there was nothing there to suggest that they are going to beat us by 9 points as some people have suggested.

Kildare is quite happy to be still in the Championship. Incredible to think that we are in the 1/4 final. Take one game at a time. Kildare does have the potential to play very very well. Just think of England in the last Rugby World Cup. Crap team, past their time, played badly for the last 4 years, lost their 1 st game of the tournament and still got to the final.

Us Kildare men like to dream - and unlike 26 other counties - we still are.

Yavvy

I agree with the above about Cork being no great shakes... I also agree Kildare will have grown in confidence and stature but they wull as the other thread discusses be knackered tired. Cork while not being great shakes are certainly more than good enough to beat the lillys. I hope they dont.. but I think they will ( exactly what I said about fermanagh so hopefully im dead wrong)

A-Train

Dublin tickets for people looking for them are on sale at 12 today on ticketmaster.

cruiserweight

Joe Kernan is having his say on the quarter final pairings in todays indo, I like the headline

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/armagh-in-danger-of-underestimating-resurgent-wexford-1446588.html

IF I'm not mistaken, there appears to be a palpable sense of something approaching relief in Armagh following the All-Ireland quarter-final draw.

The fact that Peter McDonnell's side have been paired against Wexford seems to have sparked the belief that a semi-final place is there for the taking.

But I would offer a strong word of caution: this could prove the ultimate banana-skin from an Armagh perspective.

Wexford may have been routed by Dublin in the Leinster final but last Saturday they showed a lot of character and no little skill by coming back strongly against Down.

I well recall in 2004 when Armagh came up against Fermanagh in the quarter-finals of the All-Ireland. And what happened? Fermanagh turned us over, thanks to a late point from Tom Brewster.

Armagh must be on their guard for this Saturday's potentially tricky assignment against a team who have a decent defence, a few scoring forwards led by Matty Forde and a new self-belief.

And Wexford will be glad to be going back to Croke Park just a week after beating Down -- they now have the inviting prospect of claiming two major Ulster scalps within a matter of days.

And while Armagh and Wexford will naturally be out to prove themselves at the business end of the season, Kerry will be particularly enthused about confronting Galway.

They may have flopped in the second half of the Munster final against Cork but the Kingdom showed against Monaghan last Sunday that they are still a very hungry outfit.

They have quality in their side, strength on the bench and the awesome incentive of going for three All-Ireland titles on the trot.

Kerry manager Pat O'Shea is likely to move Colm Cooper closer to goal this weekend as he could make a bigger impact when he is within shooting range.

Galway obviously are an attack-minded side but Joe Bergin has been a big loss to them and their defence tends to be vulnerable on occasions -- and there is no better team than Kerry in spotting and exploiting weaknesses.

The Ulster presence in the All-Ireland football qualifiers has been trimmed considerably. Up here we have been trumpeting our province's plus-factors but sadly last weekend served very much as a reality check.

Monaghan, Down and Fermanagh have all fallen by the wayside leaving Tyrone and Armagh as the only Ulster representatives left.

Tyrone manager Mickey Harte has his feet very much on the ground and is certainly not getting carried away by that one-point win over Mayo, but the challenge of meeting Dublin will bring the best out of them.

Monaghan emerged from their joust with Kerry with considerable credit. Manager Seamus McEnaney appears to have indicated that he might step down but I would be sorry to see this happen.

Similarly, Down boss Ross Carr has overseen progress since January and although his side have been in the firing line since Saturday, they should not be judged on the back of one performance.

Courageous

It was particularly disappointing to see Fermanagh head out through the exit door after their courageous displays against Armagh in the Ulster Championship.

They had beaten both Monaghan and Derry and looked more than capable of maintaining their drive for glory. The wheels have come off their wagon big time, but manager Malachy O'Rourke has not been looking for excuses.

They are a better side than they showed in those games but Fermanagh have discovered that it is essential to produce your best form when the chips are down.

Kildare manager Kieran McGeeney is normally a man who tends to keep his emotions under control, but on Sunday he reacted animatedly to every score his side landed and there was no doubting his satisfaction when the referee sounded the final whistle.

Kieran knew that his side's rehabilitation had reached another milestone and that they would now have an even bigger day out in Croke Park.

Cavan, Limerick and Fermanagh may not be regarded as three of the toughest cookies in the All- Ireland box, but the manner in which Kildare have disposed of them augurs well for their chances against Cork although the Munster champions will be favourites to make it a black day for the Lilywhites.

MBC

A-Train wrote: »

Dublin tickets for people looking for them are on sale at 12 today on ticketmaster.

Cheers for the info.

homerjay2005

tickets should be hitting the county boards today, well thats the story in kerry anyway. i assume ticketmaster has em too

K-9

The problem I'd have with Kildare is their performance in the first 25 minutes was atrocious. Fair enough Fermanagh have one of the best midfields and are one of the best teams in the country at winning breaking ball but Kildare were bad.

A few decent scoring forwards and Fermanagh would have been 4/5 points up at half time.

I think Kildare will keep it tight but Cork by 4/5 points in the end.

Armagh to win by 4/5 points as well. McDonnell and Clarke being the difference.

Kerry by 7.

Dublin by 2. Think this is going to be the tightest match. Tyrone are grinding out the results and I can see them winning this one, but I think it will be Dublin. Dublin need games like this to win an AI.

will1977

Dublin v Tyrone - Dublin by 4
Galway v kerry - Kerry by 8
Cork v Kildare - Cork by 3
Armagh v Wexford - Wexford by 2

odonnellcarey

Has anyone managed to get tickets for Dublin v Tyrone on Ticketmaster?

mobby

yep (4) Davin Stand happy days!!!:)

Yeah I got 4 for the lower hogan. But I got them at around 1 minute past 12, shortly after that it looked like they were all gone.

No standing were available as far as I could see.

VERYinterested

odonnellcarey wrote: »

Has anyone managed to get tickets for Dublin v Tyrone on Ticketmaster?

Yes I got two for the Lower Hogan, but almost immediately after I got them, one of the lads in work got the dreaded message that his query did not match tickets available. Looks like the site is in meltdown.

MBC

odonnellcarey wrote: »

Has anyone managed to get tickets for Dublin v Tyrone on Ticketmaster?

I seem to be having problems on ticketmaster.ie..........they couldnt be sold out already could they?

Bluetonic

Ticketmaster will only have sold a few 100 tickets for the Dublin game. They get tickets to sell as they've sold for the previous rounds. The GAA don't want or need them to sell tickets for the game but they are contracted to give them a very small amount.

It's the same every year.

Just did another test run, there are more tickets up (Upper Hogan). So they're not gone yet.

VERYinterested

My mate just got 4, so keep trying until it says 'Currently not on Sale'.

VERYinterested

VERYinterested wrote: »

My mate just got 4, so keep trying until it says 'Currently not on Sale'.

Where did they get them for?

babyhack

Managed to get 3 myself UPP714

BH

lisbon_lions

VERYinterested wrote: »

My mate just got 4, so keep trying until it says 'Currently not on Sale'.

Even when they do say "currently not on sale" still try the more info button as sometimes you can still buy when they appear not to be....
Good luck.

neonman

Took me 45 minutes of trying over and over and I ended up getting 2 for Cusack Row A UPP704

Very happy with that. Keep on trying until it comes up sold out they might be releasing them in batches?

VERYinterested

Myth wrote: »

Where did they get them for?

He got them for the Upper Hogan.

mobby

Seem to be back on sale again mate just got a family ticket (4) for Upr Hogan.

Bluetonic

Lots available at the moment, mind you in 701, 722 and 711. 6+ together.

MBC

Got sorted for the lower cusack happy days.

Slicklink

Quite clear that the ticketmaster website cannot handle the number of requests it is getting. The tickets are there.... it just cant process loads of applications at a time (I wonder what the actual no of sale connections that are actually allowed). Best Available option DOES NOT work. You have to specific.

Another important point the thrown in is 4 o clock not 12 o clock as stated on ticket master website and in ticket conformation.

Can you imagine a 12 o clock scenario. The gardai would love that!

I was wondering about the 12pm throw in alright!

quad_red

Slicklink wrote: »

Quite clear that the ticketmaster website cannot handle the number of requests it is getting. The tickets are there.... it just cant process loads of applications at a time (I wonder what the actual no of sale connections that are actually allowed). Best Available option DOES NOT work. You have to specific.
!

God damn it, all I can get is lower Davin again. Everything else (incl. best available option isn't available).

Have been trying for an hour now. :mad:

aidan24326

Does anyone know if tickets are on sale at the ticket office in Croke Park? I want tickets for Saturday.