Name Your Price

meditraitor

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........50m
2. Lionel Messi.................40m
3. Samuel Eto'o................25m
4. Michael Essien..............25m
5. Andrés Iniesta..............15m
6. Fernando Torres...........30m
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......20m
8. Ronaldinho...................30m
9. Steven Gerrard.............40m
10. Rio Ferdinand..............24m
11. Didier Drogba..............30m
12. Daniel Alves...............20m
13. Robinho.....................20m
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....10m
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........25m
16. Robbie Keane.............12m
17. Xavi.........................25m
18. David Villa.................25m
19. Kaka........................45m
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......10m
21. Alesandro Nesta.........35m
22. Gigi Buffon................20m
23. Iker Casillas..............25m
24. John Terry................25m
25. Cesc Fabregas..........25m
26. Darren Bent..............2$
27. Andrey Arshavin........20m
28. Gareth Barry.............15m
29. Thierry Henry............28m
30. Wayne Rooney..........20m

Bubs101

Tusky wrote: »

I actually agree with you about this...well hes obviously not ****e but hes one of the most over rated players around.

I take it you don't watch Serie A then? He's fantastic and I would swap him in a heartbeat for Drogba. The amount of assists he gets is absolutely insane

SantryRed

corban wrote: »

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........65
2. Lionel Messi.................65
3. Samuel Eto'o................15
4. Michael Essien..............12
5. Andrés Iniesta..............8
6. Fernando Torres...........22
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......22
8. Ronaldinho...................12
9. Steven Gerrard.............20
10. Rio Ferdinand..............15
11. Didier Drogba..............17
12. Daniel Alves...............17
13. Robinho.....................15
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....12
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........15
16. Robbie Keane.............12
17. Xavi.........................10
18. David Villa.................18
19. Kaka........................65
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......5
21. Alesandro Nesta.........2 old
22. Gigi Buffon................2 old
23. Iker Casillas..............7
24. John Terry................15
25. Cesc Fabregas..........55
26. Darren Bent..............10
27. Andrey Arshavin........8
28. Gareth Barry.............10
29. Thierry Henry............6
30. Wayne Rooney..........22

This list is laughable to say the least.

I'm pissing meself laughing here watching this list. Gigi Buffon is too old?

Are you taking the piss? He's thirty. In his prime. Will be around for the next ten years.

I can't get over how idiotic this post is.

Xavi6

corban wrote: »

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........65
2. Lionel Messi.................65
3. Samuel Eto'o................15
4. Michael Essien..............12
5. Andrés Iniesta..............8
6. Fernando Torres...........22
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......22
8. Ronaldinho...................12
9. Steven Gerrard.............20
10. Rio Ferdinand..............15
11. Didier Drogba..............17
12. Daniel Alves...............17
13. Robinho.....................15
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....12
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........15
16. Robbie Keane.............12
17. Xavi.........................10
18. David Villa.................18
19. Kaka........................65
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......5
21. Alesandro Nesta.........2 old
22. Gigi Buffon................2 old
23. Iker Casillas..............7
24. John Terry................15
25. Cesc Fabregas..........55
26. Darren Bent..............10
27. Andrey Arshavin........8
28. Gareth Barry.............10
29. Thierry Henry............6
30. Wayne Rooney..........22

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Buffon 2m

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----Essien 12m---Nesta 2m---Ferdinand 15m----

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Xavi 10m

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Iniesta 8m

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Henry 6m

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Arshavin 8m

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Ronaldinho 12m

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Ibrahimovic 5m

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Huntelaar 12m

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Combined total - 91m

Lol yes please!

justfortherecor

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........55m
2. Lionel Messi.................50m
3. Samuel Eto'o................25m
4. Michael Essien..............22m
5. Andrés Iniesta..............13m
6. Fernando Torres............37m
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......18m
8. Ronaldinho...................20m
9. Steven Gerrard.............35m
10. Rio Ferdinand..............15m
11. Didier Drogba..............30m
12. Daniel Alves................17m
13. Robinho......................25m
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar......15m
15. Dmitar Berbatov...........23m
16. Robbie Keane...............15m
17. Xavi............................22m
18. David Villa...................25m
19. Kaka...........................45m
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic........20m
21. Alesandro Nesta............16m
22. Gigi Buffon...................15m
23. Iker Casillas.................25m
24. John Terry....................20m
25. Cesc Fabregas..............35m
26. Darren Bent.................14m
27. Andrey Arshavin...........16m
28. Gareth Barry................11m
29. Thierry Henry...............18m
30. Wayne Rooney..............30m

Jazzy

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........60m
2. Lionel Messi.................60m
3. Samuel Eto'o................23m
4. Michael Essien..............32m
5. Andrés Iniesta..............21m
6. Fernando Torres............35m
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......20m
8. Ronaldinho...................20m
9. Steven Gerrard.............28m
10. Rio Ferdinand..............20m
11. Didier Drogba..............18m
12. Daniel Alves................17m
13. Robinho......................28m
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar......18m
15. Dmitar Berbatov...........25m
16. Robbie Keane...............16m
17. Xavi............................22m
18. David Villa...................30m
19. Kaka...........................50m
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic........20m
21. Alesandro Nesta............13m
22. Gigi Buffon...................17m
23. Iker Casillas.................23m
24. John Terry....................20m
25. Cesc Fabregas..............40m
26. Darren Bent.................12m
27. Andrey Arshavin...........16m
28. Gareth Barry................13m
29. Thierry Henry...............15m
30. Wayne Rooney..............33m

i think a lot of the transfers this summer have been over priced. i also agree with one of PHB's old comments that there is a lack of quality on the transfer market this summer. for liverpool to have the ability to compete and keep in the top 4 they have had to pay over the odds for keane and probably for barry. utd are getting bent over by spurs for berbatov, boswinga to chelski was a rip off, where did fulham get £13m from to buy.... Andy Johnson??!! Dunno wats going on in the Arsenal camp, Liverpool made a 50% profit on crouch cos hes english (altho good, if he was from Nigeria, Czech Republic, Ukraine etc. he would have been sold for 8).

after all is said and done i dont think there will be that big a change in the final standings of the PL. i think Man Utd / Chelski will be the top 2, pool / Arsenal will be 3rd / 4th. I think blackburn will go down to 14th/15th (not good reports coming out of Ince's new regime) UEFA cup will come down to Spurs, Villa, Portsmouth and Citeh.
heres hoping im wrong tho and Liverpool come 1st!

PHB

Tusky wrote: »

wow

I know goals arent everything but they are very very important for someone who plays as a striker.

Rooney Career totals

Games: 306
Goals: 107

I rate Rooney highly. Not 40m highly though.

Well, Gerrard is 28, Rooney is 22. That pretty much doubles the value. I rate Rooney as pretty much as highly as Ronaldo. He imo, along with Rooney Messi and Fabregas are the hottest young talents in football.

Mr.Nice Guy

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........£55m
2. Lionel Messi.................£52.5m
3. Samuel Eto'o................£23m
4. Michael Essien..............£25m
5. Andrés Iniesta..............£26m
6. Fernando Torres...........£45m
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......£31m
8. Ronaldinho...................£25m
9. Steven Gerrard.............£30m
10. Rio Ferdinand..............£23m
11. Didier Drogba..............£25m
12. Daniel Alves...............£15.5m
13. Robinho.....................£24m
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....£19m
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........£25m
16. Robbie Keane.............£16m
17. Xavi.........................£27m
18. David Villa.................£31m
19. Kaka........................£47.5m
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......£17m
21. Alesandro Nesta.........£15m
22. Gigi Buffon................£25m
23. Iker Casillas..............£28m
24. John Terry................£27m
25. Cesc Fabregas..........£44m
26. Darren Bent..............£11.5m
27. Andrey Arshavin........£20m
28. Gareth Barry.............£14.5m
29. Thierry Henry............£13m
30. Wayne Rooney..........£40m
31. Ashley Young............£16m
32. John O'Shea..............£194.5m :pac:

eZe^

I love how calculate you are, with you 42.5 million... You can distinguish that 0.5 million difference... :P:P:P

Mr.Nice Guy

eZe^ wrote: »

I love how calculate you are, with you 42.5 million... You can distinguish that 0.5 million difference... :P:P:P

I know I'm very particular when it comes to cash.

mormank

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah, 22 years of age, 2 league titles. Very overated. :rolleyes:

oh ya of course. you're right, im wrong. and when exactly did he win the football singles trophy??? lol. good argument tho. Darren fletcher also has those same titles. but he is class.

He was so young when he first came onto the scene so was hyped so much cos he was english. Then he got bought by utd for 30 mill. what has he really done tho besides score roughly 11 goals each season since he has been at utd. ronnie is twice the player he is. scholes is better. giggs was twice the player and so on...

Boggles

mormank wrote: »

oh ya of course. you're right, im wrong. and when exactly did he win the football singles trophy??? lol. good argument tho. Darren fletcher also has those same titles. but he is class.

He was so young when he first came onto the scene so was hyped so much cos he was english. Then he got bought by utd for 30 mill. what has he really done tho besides score roughly 11 goals each season since he has been at utd. ronnie is twice the player he is. scholes is better. giggs was twice the player and so on...

Honestly that post has hit a new low. Your entitled to your opinion and there is no way I'm arguing with you.

mormank

Boggles wrote: »

Honestly that post has hit a new low. Your entitled to your opinion and there is no way I'm arguing with you.

wahey i left the mighty boggles speechless!!! well its like zlatan ibrahimovic. some reckon he is crap. I reckon he is class...its a matter of opinion. I dont think the post is a new low tho. I could show u a dozen posts by you that are more retarded!!!

CHD

Rooney is overated.

He is a top footballer and the best is to come though, IMO he's not a striker and will be one of the best secondary strikers in the world once he gets a top class striker in front of him like Berbatov.

Most overated player in the premiership?

Not a chance, this accolade goes to the likes of Wright-Phillips and Bentley and any other young English player who cost millions and fails.

mormank

ok ok clearly he is not the most over rated player in the premiership. i only said that for shock value. i do not think he has even come close to justiying the hype yet. He probably will. If he doesnt keep that temper in check he could be playin for newcastle before he gets a chance tho.

I take back what i said about rooney. Was only for shock value. it worked. however i do not think he is the bees knees just yet. He has ALOT of quality around him.

Put simply. Feel free to put him into your fantasy footie team for the year. You will be wasting your money as he is horrible value for money. Too expensive and doesnt do enough during games to warrant points i.e. goals and assists or great performances..

CHD

He might not win alot of points in a Fantasy Football competiton but on the pitch where it counts is where he will be helping United win points by giving 110% every game.

He might not have alot of assists, he might miss alot of 1 on 1's and might lose the head a bit but you will struggle to find another player that puts in 110% every game like Rooney does.

Anyway Chelsea jersey back on, Rooneys dirt...... :pac:

Boggles

In fairness to Rooney if he was played in his best position for the whole season his stats would increase, he needs to improved his finishing thou, but that applies to alot of strikers in the league.

cournioni

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........£46 million
2. Lionel Messi.................£46 million
3. Samuel Eto'o................£20 million
4. Michael Essien..............£18 million
5. Andrés Iniesta..............£14 million
6. Fernando Torres...........£25 million
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......£16 million
8. Ronaldinho...................£28 million (depending on his form)
9. Steven Gerrard.............£22 million
10. Rio Ferdinand..............£18 million
11. Didier Drogba..............£25 million
12. Daniel Alves...............£10 million
13. Robinho.....................£20 million
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....£12.5 million
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........£14 million
16. Robbie Keane.............£12.5 million
17. Xavi.........................£15 million
18. David Villa.................£27 million
19. Kaka........................£35 million
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......£14 million
21. Alesandro Nesta.........£10 million
22. Gigi Buffon................£12 million
23. Iker Casillas..............£20 million
24. John Terry................£14 million
25. Cesc Fabregas..........£20 million
26. Darren Bent..............£8 million
27. Andrey Arshavin........£18 million
28. Gareth Barry.............£8 million
29. Thierry Henry............£7 million
30. Wayne Rooney..........£26 million

PHB

Ok that makes no sense.
Gerrard is 28 and valued at 28 million.
Fabregas is 20 and already near, if not better than Gerrard, and he's only worth 20?

corban

eZe^ wrote: »

Ok, Please become a manager, and sell me all these players for the quoted prices. Hahaha, especially the ones in bold... I guarantee you within 12 hours of buying them, I could make a 300% profit.

i went at it from my point of view how i would rate these players!! the players in bold i either dont rate or i think are past their best.....

Mr Alan

Rooney = English Dirk Kuyt.

Said it a thousand times. Rooney is a very good player, but hasn't near turned into the player i thought he would.

Still time to do that though.

CHD

Mr Alan wrote: »

Rooney = English Dirk Kuyt.

Said it a thousand times. Rooney is a very good player, but hasn't near turned into the player i thought he would.

Still time to do that though.

Sums it up perfectly except he will come good

Bubs101

I think Rooney deserves far more credit then people are giving him. He's an excellent foil at Man Utd for Ronaldo, he's selfless, a real team player,Tenacious ,still young and he'd make virtually any team's first XI. As for the fool who said he'd be a terrible choice in fantasy football, so what? Makalele and Deschamps would always be terrible choices but they add so much to teams that ridiculous systems like fantasy football can't calculate and as strange as it sounds, I think Rooney is the closest thing to a "water carrier" up front which is invaluable

Boggles

Mr Alan wrote: »

Rooney = English Dirk Kuyt.

Sorry Master Alan, could you explain that one to me?

MisterAnarchy

Mr Alan wrote: »

Rooney = English Dirk Kuyt.

Pretty good analogy ,although Rooney is better.
There are times I see Rooney playing and his first touch and dribbling attempts are so poor its baffling.

Tusky

Boggles wrote: »

Sorry Master Alan, could you explain that one to me?

Kuyt & Rooney are similar players. Rooney is just much better, younger and has more potential. They play a similar style of game though.

Royale with Cheese

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........£46 million
2. Lionel Messi.................£46 million
3. Samuel Eto'o................£20 million
4. Michael Essien..............£18 million
5. Andrés Iniesta..............£14 million
6. Fernando Torres...........£25 million
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......£16 million
8. Ronaldinho...................£28 million (depending on his form)
9. Steven Gerrard.............£22 million
10. Rio Ferdinand..............£18 million
11. Didier Drogba..............£25 million
12. Daniel Alves...............£10 million
13. Robinho.....................£20 million
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....£12.5 million
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........£14 million
16. Robbie Keane.............£12.5 million
17. Xavi.........................£15 million
18. David Villa.................£27 million
19. Kaka........................£35 million
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......£14 million
21. Alesandro Nesta.........£10 million
22. Gigi Buffon................£12 million
23. Iker Casillas..............£20 million
24. John Terry................£14 million
25. Cesc Fabregas..........£20 million
26. Darren Bent..............£8 million
27. Andrey Arshavin........£18 million
28. Gareth Barry.............£8 million
29. Thierry Henry............£7 million
30. Wayne Rooney..........£26 million

Hmm to buy Cristiano Ronaldo/Lionel Messi, or Cesc Fabregas + Fernando Torres with £1m in change. Tough one that.

Bounty Hunter

Tusky wrote: »

Kuyt & Rooney are similar players. Rooney is just much better, younger and has more potential. They play a similar style of game though.

If this is what he meant, they have a similar style then he's right. Rooney is far better and obviously as stated due to his age and the glimpses of sheer brilliance he has shown Rooney has a lot more potential.

actually played against Rooney once myself and even then he was brilliant but not exactley a brilliant finisher, but in a Kuyt-esque style he was a big ball of energy and was feckin everywhere and created for both himself and his team-mates a hell of a lot of chances.

Requiem4adream

ditpoker wrote: »

hmm... i'm basing most of my cannavaro opinion on the WC and the end of his first season at Real... probably caught him at his best then. My guess is had spain or italy won the euro's or the WC when hierro and maldini were at their best they'd have won the player of the year award. i agree though, defenders in general don't get the credit they deserve. goals = tv/money/glory ... tackles = pat on the back

still think nesta is the business!

Cannavaro & Nesta as a pair are in the top 5 partnerships of the current era, i'd like to see some stats on Goals Against when they both played as opposed to 1 or neither.

As for the lists, some really mindboggling valuations so far. Anyone who values Ronaldo £25m more than Cesc is on some form of heavy medication. Do people really have that short memories? Cesc was majestic in the Euros, didnt go missing once and was captivating when he got on the pitch. Ronaldo? hmmm. Remember, whilst Ronaldo was mesmeric last season, in most other seasons Cesc's level would have saw him Player of the Year. I'd take 2 of him over 1 Ronaldo anyday.

cournioni

PHB wrote: »

Ok that makes no sense.
Gerrard is 28 and valued at 28 million.
Fabregas is 20 and already near, if not better than Gerrard, and he's only worth 20?

What? I have Gerrard at 22 million. I think you're looking at my price for an on form Ronaldinho...

cournioni

Requiem4adream wrote: »

As for the lists, some really mindboggling valuations so far. Anyone who values Ronaldo £25m more than Cesc is on some form of heavy medication. Do people really have that short memories? Cesc was majestic in the Euros, didnt go missing once and was captivating when he got on the pitch. Ronaldo? hmmm. Remember, whilst Ronaldo was mesmeric last season, in most other seasons Cesc's level would have saw him Player of the Year. I'd take 2 of him over 1 Ronaldo anyday.

Hello? Who almost single handedly won United a Premiership and CL double this year? A 43 goal Ronaldo (who plays on the wing by the way). And in case you were wondering Ronaldo couldn't participate in full training once for Portugal in the Euro's due to his ankle injury... That might perhaps explain why he "went missing"?? Yet he still managed to get a goal and set up numerous others for Portugal.

Fabrigas is a good player, but not near the same class as Ronaldo I'm afraid. Add that to the amount of revenue he generates on shirts and I think you'll find he would be worth £46million easily.

CHD

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Fabregas is a good player, but not near the same class as Ronaldo I'm afraid.

eh, lol?

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

eh, lol?

Laugh it off if you wish, but Fabregas came nowhere close to contributing to 50+ goals last season or even close to Ronaldo the season before. These are the FACTS.

CHD

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Laugh it off if you wish, but Fabregas came nowhere close to contributing to 50+ goals last season or even close to Ronaldo the season before. These are the FACTS.

Fabregas is a midfielder. FACT

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

Fabregas is a midfielder. FACT

Yes, and the point of this thread is the price of players. Players prices in general are determined by how much they contribute to winning games, correct? Goals win games, which is why strikers generally cost more than defenders for example, correct?

Ronaldo contributes far more goals to United than Fabregas does for Arsenal, which is why Fabregas isn't in the same class and is worth less than Ronaldo. I think Real Madrid have backed my valuation of Ronaldo up with interest. Would they or anybody else pay that amount of money for Fabregas?? I don't honestly think so...

CHD

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Yes, and the point of this thread is the price of players. Players prices in general are determined by how much they contribute to winning games, correct? Goals win games, which is why strikers generally cost more than defenders for example, correct?

Ronaldo contributes far more goals to United than Fabregas does for Arsenal, which is why Fabregas isn't in the same class and is worth less than Ronaldo. I think Real Madrid have backed my valuation of Ronaldo up with interest. Would they or anybody else pay that amount of money for Fabregas?? I don't honestly think so...

Thats because its a joke of a market.

You said Ronaldo is in a different class to Fabregas, he isn't. Ronaldo was playing up front or in a advanced role all year and Fabregas plays center midfield. They are both class acts and Ronaldo isnt a class higher like you suggested because he scores more goals which is his job.They both play there positions very well and theres not alot between them.They just play different roles.

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

Thats because its a joke of a market.

You said Ronaldo is in a different class to Fabregas, he isn't. Ronaldo was playing up front or in a advanced role all year and Fabregas plays center midfield. They are both class acts and Ronaldo isnt a class higher like you suggested because he scores more goals which is his job.They both play there positions very well and theres not alot between them.They just play different roles.

Not exactly a joke of a market. The reason for the market being the way it is, is because contributing to 50+ goals is something that you can't exactly replace over night where as playing in midfield you can patch things up. That is why players such as Ronaldo are worth what they are and that is why people are willing to pay huge amounts for him.

Of course Ronaldo is in a different class he is almost irreplacable. The only player you could replace him with is Messi, where as Fabregas is replacable.

Ronaldo is the best player in his position (which is on the wing by the way, not "up front") in the world, stats and trophies prove that. Fabregas is one of the best in midfield, but not THE best. Yes he had a good first half of the season at Arsenal and he had a good Euro championship with Spain, but would he be the best without question in the world today?! I don't think so.

Is Fabregas in line for any major player of the year awards?

CHD

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Not exactly a joke of a market. The reason for the market being the way it is, is because contributing to 50+ goals is something that you can't exactly replace over night where as playing in midfield you can patch things up. That is why players such as Ronaldo are worth what they are and that is why people are willing to pay huge amounts for him.

Of course Ronaldo is in a different class he is almost irreplacable. The only player you could replace him with is Messi, where as Fabregas is replacable.

Ronaldo is the best player in his position (which is on the wing by the way, not "up front") in the world, stats and trophies prove that. Fabregas is one of the best in midfield, but not THE best. Yes he had a good first half of the season at Arsenal and he had a good Euro championship with Spain, but would he be the best without question in the world today?! I don't think so.

Is Fabregas in line for any major player of the year awards?

No AFAIK he isn't in line for any awards.

So basically Fabregas didnt score 40 add goals, won't be receiving an award and theres one or two midfielders out there as good as him and who can replace him so Ronaldo is a different class.

I never questioned him being worth alot of money.Just that you said he is a different class to Fabregas, i lol'd.

How much will Ronaldo be worth if he only scores 12 goals this year?

PHB

The comparison between Rooney and Kuyt is hilarious.
Last season
Rooney scored 12 goals and got 13 assists in the league in 2100 mins playing time.
Kuyt scired 3 goals and 6 assists in 2166 playing time.

Comparing them is just retarded. Rooney is pretty much better than Kuyt in every aspect, the only thing they have in common is their incredibly hard work rate.
When you consider the fact that for the entire season Rooney was playing out of position doing a job for the team, the fact that last year he got injuried seriously 3 times, and the fact that he was for a time playing poorly, you can begin to understand how good Rooney really is. He is the heartbeat of United. When he is out, United nearly always lose or draw.

Anyone who doesn't rate Rooney as top class imo doesn't really understand the game of football. As Fergie said, 'If this is Rooney playing bad, I'll have this Rooney for the rest of his career'

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

No AFAIK he isn't in line for any awards.

So basically Fabregas didnt score 40 add goals, won't be receiving an award and theres one or two midfielders out there as good as him and who can replace him so Ronaldo is a different class.

I never questioned him being worth alot of money.Just that you said he is a different class to Fabregas, i lol'd.

How much will Ronaldo be worth if he only scores 12 goals this year?

Depending on how many assists he has this year I'd say alot less than he is worth now as creating and scoring is what makes him really. That and shirt sales. Maybe £35million? Which is half what Madrid are willing to pay for him this year. If he only scored 12 goals I'd put him in at around £20million myself.

Yes he is in a different class, Ronaldo is world class, where as Fabregas is almost world class, and IMO will be at some stage but not now. My definition of world class is an irreplacable player playing at the highest level before you ask.

CHD

PHB wrote: »

The comparison between Rooney and Kuyt is hilarious.
Last season
Rooney scored 12 goals and got 13 assists in the league in 2100 mins playing time.
Kuyt scired 3 goals and 6 assists in 2166 playing time.

Comparing them is just retarded. Rooney is pretty much better than Kuyt in every aspect, the only thing they have in common is their incredibly hard work rate.
When you consider the fact that for the entire season Rooney was playing out of position doing a job for the team, the fact that last year he got injuried seriously 3 times, and the fact that he was for a time playing poorly, you can begin to understand how good Rooney really is. He is the heartbeat of United. When he is out, United nearly always lose or draw.

Anyone who doesn't rate Rooney as top class imo doesn't really understand the game of football. As Fergie said, 'If this is Rooney playing bad, I'll have this Rooney for the rest of his career'

I took it that the comparision he made was the role they play, work rate etc.

Comparing there end product is laughable yes.

Rooney does the job he's given better than most would IMO

CHD

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Depending on how many assists he has this year I'd say alot less than he is worth now as creating and scoring is what makes him really. That and shirt sales. Maybe £35million? Which is half what Madrid are willing to pay for him this year. If he only scored 12 goals I'd put him in at around £20million myself.

Yes he is in a different class, Ronaldo is world class, where as Fabregas is almost world class, and IMO will be at some stage but not now. My definition of world class is an irreplacable player before you ask.

Ok fair enough. But i don't think Ronaldo is in a class all on his own which is basically what you are saying, or is there any other players you rate up there with him?

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

Ok fair enough. But i don't think Ronaldo is in a class all on his own which is basically what you are saying, or is there any other players you rate up there with him?

Class of his own for his position? This year, I definately think so. Messi is the only player that comes close but he hasn't been as good this year due to injury.

I never said that Ronaldo was in a class of his own, he is one of the top players in the world at the moment though along with Messi and Kaka.

CHD

Never said you did, said you basically did, which you did but you now cleared that up, so you did!!

Agree to disagree anyway!

cournioni

CHD wrote: »

Never said you did, said you basically did, which you did but you now cleared that up, so you did!!

Agree to disagree anyway!

FINE! :P

Suprised at the prices of David Villa even though they are generally correct! He should be going for alot more but Valencia are skint!

Boggles

Requiem4adream wrote: »

Remember, whilst Ronaldo was mesmeric last season, in most other seasons Cesc's level would have saw him Player of the Year. I'd take 2 of him over 1 Ronaldo anyday.

But would you take 2 Ronaldos over 1 Cesc?

Both are the 2 best young players in the World in my opinion. Ronaldo is far more consistent than Cesc thou, I love Fabregas and would love to see him in my team, He will go on and join the ranks of proven Prem midfielders like Scholes and Gerrard.

No wonder young talent isn't breaking into the teams around the premiership, When Fabregas is the yard stick at just 21, his talent is even more scary when you factor in his age.

Dolph Starbeam

1. Cristiano Ronaldo..........40
2. Lionel Messi.................45
3. Samuel Eto'o................20
4. Michael Essien..............30
5. Andrés Iniesta..............25
6. Fernando Torres...........35
7. Emmanuel Adebayor......15
8. Ronaldinho...................25
9. Steven Gerrard.............20
10. Rio Ferdinand..............18
11. Didier Drogba..............20
12. Daniel Alves...............25
13. Robinho.....................27
14. Klaas Jan Huntelaar.....20
15. Dmitar Berbatov.........22
16. Robbie Keane.............26
17. Xavi.........................25
18. David Villa.................33
19. Kaka........................44
20. Zlatan Ibrahimovic......18
21. Alesandro Nesta.........30
22. Gigi Buffon................18
23. Iker Casillas..............20
24. John Terry................25
25. Cesc Fabregas..........38
26. Darren Bent..............10
27. Andrey Arshavin........10
28. Gareth Barry.............15
29. Thierry Henry............25
30. Wayne Rooney..........38

Pepe LeFrits

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Yes, and the point of this thread is the price of players. Players prices in general are determined by how much they contribute to winning games, correct? Goals win games, which is why strikers generally cost more than defenders for example, correct?

Ronaldo contributes far more goals to United than Fabregas does for Arsenal, which is why Fabregas isn't in the same class and is worth less than Ronaldo. I think Real Madrid have backed my valuation of Ronaldo up with interest. Would they or anybody else pay that amount of money for Fabregas?? I don't honestly think so...

And yet you've valued a 30 year Didier Drogba at 25 million, while you've put a 24 year old Emmanuel Adebayor (who scored twice as many goals as Drogba last season) at 16 million. Go figure...

cournioni

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

And yet you've valued a 30 year Didier Drogba at 25 million, while you've put a 24 year old Emmanuel Adebayor (who scored twice as many goals as Drogba last season) at 16 million. Go figure...

That is because Drogba is a proven player at the highest level. He had a quiet year last year due to the African cup of nations and injury. Adebayor has only recently come into the fray and really has had only one really good season under his belt. He has only scored one (possibly two?) CL goal for Arsenal so far also.

Go figure eh? :rolleyes: